RE: OT - Smoky's bladder
Title: Message Cats are just too damn smart, aren't they! Vibes coming, good luck! Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:53 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Well, the vet said that as long as he is asymptomatic, that it was OK to give him a break on the pilling. I am going to pick up a few doses of the oral pain med (buprenex) just in case he gets the patch off this weekend. He's just too smart - I've tried the treat lure trick before and it doesn't work on him - he's hip to the plan and wants nothing to do with it. If we leave him alone and he comes out to eat and potty (hopefully in the litter box, w/NO blood), we'll just eyeball him to make sure the patch is still there but otherwise leave him alone - he's never been fond of being held, hates it actually, I know how to hold him so he doesn't fuss much, but with a cast on, I can't. And he's been messed with so much this last week that he wants NOTHING to do with us. But it is very good to see him moving so fast so easily and it's clear by his eyes and _expression_ that he's feeling better. And by the fact that Bandit has resumed his normal behavior towards him. The little shite. I'm always grateful that he's so much smaller than Smoky; they are about the same height at the shoulder, but Bandit is one of those 2 dimensional kitties, very long and tall and no width:) he turns into a string when he stretches:) At the weigh-in on Tuesday, Smoky was back up to 17.5lbs even and Bandit was a hair under 10lbs. Will keep collecting the vibes for my big boy and keep y'all posted:)Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barb,What wonderful news that Smoky is improving! Hooray! The little stinker, now that he feels better, he's giving you a hard time. I would try calling him in a way he's not used to. A different kind of coo perhaps. Toss him something irresistible, a small piece of chicken maybe, just a small taste. Do this a couple of times, tossing the chicken closer and closer to the edge of the bed. The first couple of times he gets close enough to touch, let him have the treat without grabbing him, let him go back under the bed if he wants. Start calling him and making him follow you out into the open before giving him the treat. Let him eat the treat in the open without any negative results. Tell him how much you appreciate his cooperation. When he gets used to this, you'll be able to draw him out, dose him, give him more treat, an! d let him go. Hopefully, he'll begin to accept the negative (getting dosed), because of the payment (yummy treats).I'm so pleased it looks like he's going to be okay!NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, it's weird and that's the food that I've added to their mix. Smoky still has the fentanyl patch on, but he can reach it - he also figured out that if he curls up in the sink his skin moves so he can reach more of it bitter apple doesn't work on him and now he won't let either of us near him and since he's been feeling better (mostly just yesterday afternoon and evening, Bandit seems to have called off the truce. hubby says Bandit was picking on him this morning and that's the initial reason Smoky went under the bed. But when I put out their breakfast, Smoky had come out into the hallway, but as soon as he saw me facing him, he went straight back under the bed,! so he hasn't gotten his antibiotics or anti-spasmotics this morning. The vet wants me/him to finish the course he's on even though the culture came back w/only one colony which is insignificant. He was feeling fine last night, bouncing around and being happy, but he seriously won't let us near him anymore - VERY distrustful at this point. and it's a king size bed in a corner there's NO way to get him, which is kind of good, because he needs a safe place... but as of the glimpse I got of him this morning, the patch was still mostly attached, it's just loose around the edges aarrggghhh this is really frustrating, I'm waiting for the clinic to call back because I want to have some oral pain meds as a backup in case he does get the patch off. The vet had also mentioned that sometimes when there are problems like interstitial cystitis, and wi! th the bladder lining, some cats do well on the joint meds chondroitin/glucosamine because the bladder lining is so similar to the joint linings I thought that was very interesting. I'll continue to keep you posted - I'm very thankful for all the good vibes coming his way, they've helped and it seems that he's over the worst of it - there doesn't seem to be any blood in his urine now and we just need to keep him stable:) and not peeing outside the box!! although, the puppy pads are a godsend
Re: OT - Smoky's bladder
yep, it's weird and that's the food that I've added to their mix.Smoky still has the fentanyl patch on, but he can reach it - he also figured out that if he curls up in the sink his skin moves so he can reach more of it bitter apple doesn't work on him and now he won't let either of us near him and since he's been feeling better (mostly just yesterday afternoon and evening, Bandit seems to have called off the truce. hubby says Bandit was picking on him this morning and that's the initial reason Smoky went under the bed. But when I put out their breakfast, Smoky had come out into the hallway, but as soon as he saw me facing him, he went straight back under the bed, so he hasn't gotten his antibiotics or anti-spasmotics this morning. The vet wants me/him to finish the course he's on even though the culture came back w/only one colony which is insignificant. He was feeling fine last night, bouncing around and being happy, but he seriously won't let us near him anymore - VERY distrustful at this point. and it's a king size bed in a corner there's NO way to get him, which is kind of good, because he needs a safe place... but as of the glimpse I got of him this morning, the patch was still mostly attached, it's just loose around the edges aarrggghhh this is really frustrating, I'm waiting for the clinic to call back because I want to have some oral pain meds as a backup in case he does get the patch off. The vet had also mentioned that sometimes when there are problems like interstitial cystitis, and with the bladder lining, some cats do well on the joint meds chondroitin/glucosamine because the bladder lining is so similar to the joint linings I thought that was very interesting. I'll continue to keep you posted - I'm very thankful for all the good vibes coming his way, they've helped and it seems that he's over the worst of it - there doesn't seem to be any blood in his urine now and we just need to keep him stable:) and not peeing outside the box!! although, the puppy pads are a godsendmaca cats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barb, this is weird, i just hung the phone with a friend of mine who hasa cat diagnosed 3 months ago with interstitial cystitis, and it is avery rare condition for a cat. I believe there about only a couple ofhundred casas registered. anyway, her cat has been strictly on royalcanin renal formula, dry, and the last exams came back 100% clean. sothere is hope.hugs for both of youmacarenaBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! What will yours do?
Re: OT - Smoky's bladder
Hi Barb, What wonderful news that Smoky is improving! Hooray! The little stinker, now that he feels better, he's giving you a hard time. I would try calling him in a way he's not used to. A different kind of coo perhaps. Toss him something irresistible, a small piece of chicken maybe, just a small taste. Do this a couple of times, tossing the chicken closer and closer to the edge of the bed. The first couple of times he gets close enough to touch, let him have the treat without grabbing him, let him go back under the bed if he wants. Start calling him and making him follow you out into the open before giving him the treat. Let him eat the treat in the open without any negative results. Tell him how much you appreciate his cooperation. When he gets used to this, you'll be able to draw him out, dose him, give him more treat, and let him go. Hopefully, he'll begin to accept the negative (getting dosed), because of the payment (yummy treats). I'm so pleased it looks like he's going to be okay! Nina Barb Moermond wrote: yep, it's weird and that's the food that I've added to their mix. Smoky still has the fentanyl patch on, but he can reach it - he also figured out that if he curls up in the sink his skin moves so he can reach more of it bitter apple doesn't work on him and now he won't let either of us near him and since he's been feeling better (mostly just yesterday afternoon and evening, Bandit seems to have called off the truce. hubby says Bandit was picking on him this morning and that's the initial reason Smoky went under the bed. But when I put out their breakfast, Smoky had come out into the hallway, but as soon as he saw me facing him, he went straight back under the bed, so he hasn't gotten his antibiotics or anti-spasmotics this morning. The vet wants me/him to finish the course he's on even though the culture came back w/only one colony which is insignificant. He was feeling fine last night, bouncing around and being happy, but he seriously won't let us near him anymore - VERY distrustful at this point. and it's a king size bed in a corner there's NO way to get him, which is kind of good, because he needs a safe place... but as of the glimpse I got of him this morning, the patch was still mostly attached, it's just loose around the edges aarrggghhh this is really frustrating, I'm waiting for the clinic to call back because I want to have some oral pain meds as a backup in case he does get the patch off. The vet had also mentioned that sometimes when there are problems like interstitial cystitis, and with the bladder lining, some cats do well on the joint meds chondroitin/glucosamine because the bladder lining is so similar to the joint linings I thought that was very interesting. I'll continue to keep you posted - I'm very thankful for all the good vibes coming his way, they've helped and it seems that he's over the worst of it - there doesn't seem to be any blood in his urine now and we just need to keep him stable:) and not peeing outside the box!! although, the puppy pads are a godsend *//*
Re: OT - Smoky's bladder
Well, the vet said that as long as he is asymptomatic, that it was OK to give him a break on the pilling. I am going to pick up a few doses of the oral pain med (buprenex) just in case he gets the patch off this weekend. He's just too smart - I've tried the treat lure trick before and it doesn't work on him - he's hip to the plan and wants nothing to do with it. If we leave him alone and he comes out to eat and potty (hopefully in the litter box, w/NO blood), we'll just eyeball him to make sure the patch is still there but otherwise leave him alone - he's never been fond of being held, hates it actually, I know how to hold him so he doesn't fuss much, but with a cast on, I can't. And he's been messed with so much this last week that he wants NOTHING to do with us. But it is very good to see him moving so fast so easily and it's clear by his eyes and _expression_ that he's feeling better. And by the fact that Bandit has resumed his normal behavior towards him. The little shite. I'm always grateful that he's so much smaller than Smoky; they are about the same height at the shoulder, but Bandit is one of those 2 dimensional kitties, very long and tall and no width:) he turns into a string when he stretches:) At the weigh-in on Tuesday, Smoky was back up to 17.5lbs even and Bandit was a hair under 10lbs. Will keep collecting the vibes for my big boy and keep y'all posted:)Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barb,What wonderful news that Smoky is improving! Hooray! The little stinker, now that he feels better, he's giving you a hard time. I would try calling him in a way he's not used to. A different kind of coo perhaps. Toss him something irresistible, a small piece of chicken maybe, just a small taste. Do this a couple of times, tossing the chicken closer and closer to the edge of the bed. The first couple of times he gets close enough to touch, let him have the treat without grabbing him, let him go back under the bed if he wants. Start calling him and making him follow you out into the open before giving him the treat. Let him eat the treat in the open without any negative results. Tell him how much you appreciate his cooperation. When he gets used to this, you'll be able to draw him out, dose him, give him more treat, an! d let him go. Hopefully, he'll begin to accept the negative (getting dosed), because of the payment (yummy treats).I'm so pleased it looks like he's going to be okay!NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, it's weird and that's the food that I've added to their mix. Smoky still has the fentanyl patch on, but he can reach it - he also figured out that if he curls up in the sink his skin moves so he can reach more of it bitter apple doesn't work on him and now he won't let either of us near him and since he's been feeling better (mostly just yesterday afternoon and evening, Bandit seems to have called off the truce. hubby says Bandit was picking on him this morning and that's the initial reason Smoky went under the bed. But when I put out their breakfast, Smoky had come out into the hallway, but as soon as he saw me facing him, he went straight back under the bed,! so he hasn't gotten his antibiotics or anti-spasmotics this morning. The vet wants me/him to finish the course he's on even though the culture came back w/only one colony which is insignificant. He was feeling fine last night, bouncing around and being happy, but he seriously won't let us near him anymore - VERY distrustful at this point. and it's a king size bed in a corner there's NO way to get him, which is kind of good, because he needs a safe place... but as of the glimpse I got of him this morning, the patch was still mostly attached, it's just loose around the edges aarrggghhh this is really frustrating, I'm waiting for the clinic to call back because I want to have some oral pain meds as a backup in case he does get the patch off. The vet had also mentioned that sometimes when there are problems like interstitial cystitis, and wi! th the bladder lining, some cats do well on the joint meds chondroitin/glucosamine because the bladder lining is so similar to the joint linings I thought that was very interesting. I'll continue to keep you posted - I'm very thankful for all the good vibes coming his way, they've helped and it seems that he's over the worst of it - there doesn't seem to be any blood in his urine now and we just need to keep him stable:) and not peeing outside the box!! although, the puppy pads are a godsend *//*Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.
Re: OT - Smoky's bladder - update
well, he doesn't want to come out from under the bed, and that's actually OK, because there isn't enough room under there for him to mess with the patch.There also isn't enough room for Bandit to be such a jerk. I put his breakfast (he still hadn't eaten) just under the bed and locked Bandit out of the room and he ate it all so that's just the way I'll feed him for now. As he is about 3 pounds over-weight, big meals aren't a concern, just so long as he eats a little bit regularly that's fine. He came just within arms reach under the bed for hubby to give him some scritches, so he's feeling fine, he's just ultra-paranoid at the moment. Certainly not without reason! He actually sniffed my finger after he ate! Of course, the 2nd sniff gave him a static shock and whoosh, under the bed. It'll just take some time.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no m! ind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.
Re: OT - Smoky's bladder
Smoky had a verygood night - he climbed up into the "crow's nest" (top bowl on large cat tree) in the living room and seemed very comfortable andduring the wee hours he came to me in bed and was kneading me - hasn't done THAT in several days! At one point, he gave me the strongest leg rub he's ever given and on the return rub, he stopped and leaned into my leg and curled his neck/head around it and was just leaning into me... aaawww But by the time I got up, his meds had worn off and he was VERY uncomfortable - frequent trips between box and pads and a lot of straining and very little coming out. I started the pain medicine - it's a liquid in an oral syringe, but had problems holding on to him as my left hand is in a cast. So I just put out their breakfast and let him eat a few minutes before snagging him (gently) and medicating him. Half an hour later, he was completely passed out on the floor in the hallway. Later, he wanted lovin' - at least 20 straight minutes of very firm cheek and behind the ear scritches. He was leaning VERY hard into my fingers. But the medicine really helps him and since I only have one more dose of the buprenex, I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more acepromezine so we can get through the weekend with him comfortable - I'm not going to have him be that uncomfortable if I can help it. heh, the buprenex is ! ~$8 a dose... but for a few days, I don't care at all, I'll spend what I need to keep Smoky comfortable. And I have to say that I'm very proud of Bandit - he is being very good about not picking on his brother and he's even spending more time w/Smoky than with me, which is not usual, but I'm glad.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 ! 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should! find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel cross Bennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doin! g what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!
RE: OT - Smoky's bladder
Title: Message I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more I certainly hope he gives you the meds you want for Smoky, Barb,and you're not forced to do a grab 'n' run. Sounds like the drugs aregiving him aHUGE amount of comfort. That'sso goodto hear. Sending out lots of cyberhugs and positive vibes for Smoky (and beaming strong suggestion that vet plays ball). Good luck take care, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Smoky had a verygood night - he climbed up into the "crow's nest" (top bowl on large cat tree) in the living room and seemed very comfortable andduring the wee hours he came to me in bed and was kneading me - hasn't done THAT in several days! At one point, he gave me the strongest leg rub he's ever given and on the return rub, he stopped and leaned into my leg and curled his neck/head around it and was just leaning into me... aaawww But by the time I got up, his meds had worn off and he was VERY uncomfortable - frequent trips between box and pads and a lot of straining and very little coming out. I started the pain medicine - it's a liquid in an oral syringe, but had problems holding on to him as my left hand is in a cast. So I just put out their breakfast and let him eat a few minutes before snagging him (gently) and medicating him. Half an hour later, he was completely passed out on the floor in the hallway. Later, he wanted lovin' - at least 20 straight minutes of very firm cheek and behind the ear scritches. He was leaning VERY hard into my fingers. But the medicine really helps him and since I only have one more dose of the buprenex, I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more acepromezine so we can get through the weekend with him comfortable - I'm not going to have him be that uncomfortable if I can help it. heh, the buprenex is ! ~$8 a dose... but for a few days, I don't care at all, I'll spend what I need to keep Smoky comfortable. And I have to say that I'm very proud of Bandit - he is being very good about not picking on his brother and he's even spending more time w/Smoky than with me, which is not usual, but I'm glad.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 ! 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should! find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel cross Bennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doin! g what pleases him, and making me smile.&
RE: OT - Smoky's bladder
My vet is awesome, she asked how many doses I wanted and because the buprenex costs $8 a dose we also talked about a fentanyl patch and we're going to do that this afternoon and hope that he will leave the patch alone. The culture was insignificant and she's thinking it's an interstitial cystitis and we just have to keep him comfortable- he had a couple of piddles last night that had more volume and NO blood - he has had blood since, but he's comfy while drugged."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more I certainly hope he gives you the meds you want for Smoky, Barb,and you're not forced to do a grab 'n' run. Sounds like the drugs aregiving him aHUGE amount of comfort. That'sso goodto hear. Sending out lots of cyberhugs and positive vibes for Smoky (and beaming strong suggestion that vet plays ball). Good luck take care, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Smoky had a verygood night - he climbed up into the "crow's nest" (top bowl on large cat tree) in the living room and seemed very comfortable andduring the wee hours he came to me in bed and was kneading me - hasn't done THAT in several days! At one point, he gave me the strongest leg rub he's ever given and on the return rub, he stopped and leaned into my leg and curled his neck/head around it and was just leaning into me... aaawww But by the time I got up, his meds had worn off and he was VERY uncomfortable - frequent trips between box and pads and a lot of straining and very little coming out. I started the pain medicine - it's a liquid in an oral syringe, but had problems holding on to him as my left hand is in a cast. So I just put out their breakfast and let him eat a few minutes before snagging him (gently) and medicating him. Half an hour later, he was completely passed out on the floor in the hallway. Later, he wanted lovin' - at least 20 straight minutes of very firm cheek and behind the ear scritches. He was leaning VERY hard into my fingers. But the medicine really helps him and since I only have one more dose of the buprenex, I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more acepromezine so we can get through the weekend with him comfortable - I'm not going to have him be that uncomfortable if I can help it. heh, the buprenex is ! ! ~$8 a dose... but for a few days, I don't care at all, I'll spend what I need to keep Smoky comfortable. And I have to say that I'm very proud of Bandit - he is being very good about not picking on his brother and he's even spending more time w/Smoky than with me, which is not usual, but I'm glad.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 ! ! 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should! ! find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :)
RE: OT - Smoky's bladder
Title: Message That's great, Barb. We need more awesome vets. And...sounds like news is good re Smoky! Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:57 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: RE: OT - Smoky's bladder My vet is awesome, she asked how many doses I wanted and because the buprenex costs $8 a dose we also talked about a fentanyl patch and we're going to do that this afternoon and hope that he will leave the patch alone. The culture was insignificant and she's thinking it's an interstitial cystitis and we just have to keep him comfortable- he had a couple of piddles last night that had more volume and NO blood - he has had blood since, but he's comfy while drugged."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more I certainly hope he gives you the meds you want for Smoky, Barb,and you're not forced to do a grab 'n' run. Sounds like the drugs aregiving him aHUGE amount of comfort. That'sso goodto hear. Sending out lots of cyberhugs and positive vibes for Smoky (and beaming strong suggestion that vet plays ball). Good luck take care, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Smoky had a verygood night - he climbed up into the "crow's nest" (top bowl on large cat tree) in the living room and seemed very comfortable andduring the wee hours he came to me in bed and was kneading me - hasn't done THAT in several days! At one point, he gave me the strongest leg rub he's ever given and on the return rub, he stopped and leaned into my leg and curled his neck/head around it and was just leaning into me... aaawww But by the time I got up, his meds had worn off and he was VERY uncomfortable - frequent trips between box and pads and a lot of straining and very little coming out. I started the pain medicine - it's a liquid in an oral syringe, but had problems holding on to him as my left hand is in a cast. So I just put out their breakfast and let him eat a few minutes before snagging him (gently) and medicating him. Half an hour later, he was completely passed out on the floor in the hallway. Later, he wanted lovin' - at least 20 straight minutes of very firm cheek and behind the ear scritches. He was leaning VERY hard into my fingers. But the medicine really helps him and since I only have one more dose of the buprenex, I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more acepromezine so we can get through the weekend with him comfortable - I'm not going to have him be that uncomfortable if I can help it. heh, the buprenex is ! ! ~$8 a dose... but for a few days, I don't care at all, I'll spend what I need to keep Smoky comfortable. And I have to say that I'm very proud of Bandit - he is being very good about not picking on his brother and he's even spending more time w/Smoky than with me, which is not usual, but I'm glad.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 ! ! 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. E
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Does that mean you just have to wait for antibiotics to kick in? Poor smoky! tBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vet is awesome, she asked how many doses I wanted and because the buprenex costs $8 a dose we also talked about a fentanyl patch and we're going to do that this afternoon and hope that he will leave the patch alone. The culture was insignificant and she's thinking it's an interstitial cystitis and we just have to keep him comfortable- he had a couple of piddles last night that had more volume and NO blood - he has had blood since, but he's comfy while drugged."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more I certainly hope he gives you the meds you want for Smoky, Barb,and you're not forced to do a grab 'n' run. Sounds like the drugs aregiving him aHUGE amount of comfort. That'sso goodto hear. Sending out lots of cyberhugs and positive vibes for Smoky (and beaming strong suggestion that vet plays ball). Good luck take care, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Smoky had a verygood night - he climbed up into the "crow's nest" (top bowl on large cat tree) in the living room and seemed very comfortable andduring the wee hours he came to me in bed and was kneading me - hasn't done THAT in several days! At one point, he gave me the strongest leg rub he's ever given and on the return rub, he stopped and leaned into my leg and curled his neck/head around it and was just leaning into me... aaawww But by the time I got up, his meds had worn off and he was VERY uncomfortable - frequent trips between box and pads and a lot of straining and very little coming out. I started the pain medicine - it's a liquid in an oral syringe, but had problems holding on to him as my left hand is in a cast. So I just put out their breakfast and let him eat a few minutes before snagging him (gently) and medicating him. Half an hour later, he was completely passed out on the floor in the hallway. Later, he wanted lovin' - at least 20 straight minutes of very firm cheek and behind the ear scritches. He was leaning VERY hard into my fingers. But the medicine really helps him and since I only have one more dose of the buprenex, I'm going to strongly suggest that the vet give me more and more acepromezine so we can get through the weekend with him comfortable - I'm not going to have him be that uncomfortable if I can help it. heh, the buprenex is ! ! ! ~$8 a dose... but for a few days, I don't care at all, I'll spend what I need to keep Smoky comfortable. And I have to say that I'm very proud of Bandit - he is being very good about not picking on his brother and he's even spending more time w/Smoky than with me, which is not usual, but I'm glad.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 ! ! ! 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You sho! uld! ! find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy--
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Barb, this is weird, i just hung the phone with a friend of mine who has a cat diagnosed 3 months ago with interstitial cystitis, and it is a very rare condition for a cat. I believe there about only a couple of hundred casas registered. anyway, her cat has been strictly on royal canin renal formula, dry, and the last exams came back 100% clean. so there is hope. hugs for both of you macarena
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In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used topaper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large babydiapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads liecompletely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
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yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. sigh they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used topaper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large babydiapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads liecompletely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.
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I'm glad to hear Smoky's home and resting comfortably. It sounds like you're all set, at least for tonight. I hear you on the cost for special food. And oh, my, my the vet bills! Let's pray for something that will be easily treated and clear up quick. Go snuggle in someplace comfy yourself. Nina Barb Moermond wrote: yep, found them at a pet store - got some disposable ones and also a washable anti-bacterial one. went back to the vet and got more of the prescription urinary food (royal canin s/o made by waltham) and some pain medicine for Smoky - buprenex. he seems pretty comfortable now - he napped while I was out running errands:) good to see him sleeping. they also said I could increase his dose of acepromezine (anti-spasmotic, for bladder and urethra) to 1/2 tab 2x day from 1/4 2x day - so I split the rest of the pills and stuck them into gelcaps. so far so good. should have results from the culture tomorrow - it'll be interesting to see I'm hoping it's a simple infection... my poor baby:( but he's comfortably drugged and his appetite is fabulous and thank the gods that he likes the new prescription food!! I'm fated (probably like a lot of you guys) to have kitties w/weird problems - this food is v. pricey: $1.20 per 5.8! oz can and 9.85 for a 2.5lb bag of dry.. sigh they eat better than I do. although, since I got married to a cook, things have been better on my menu:D will keep you guys posted - thanks for the vibes and please keep them coming */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2005 2:14:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them You can also get them in the incontinence aisle of most retailers... Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar http://www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel cross Bennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29914/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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Dear Barb, Best wishes and good vibes on the way to Smoky and to you; hopefully it's "only" an infection and you caught it early! I know what you mean about the vet bills! I keep telling myself to take deep breaths! Love, Julie Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.
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His white blood cell count is pushing towards the higher end of normal (17000 with 19000 being the high end) and the cells look very young. They are trying to get a sterile urine sample for a culture, but his bladder is so sensitive that he'll spasm after straining and squirt out urine onto the counter. Frequently with blood clots. They haven't been able to do a urinalysis so far because there is so much blood. One draw looked like it came from a vein and not his bladder his kidney and liver values are fine - although, looking at the fax, his creatinine is at the very high end of normal. his glucose is a bit above normal, but the vet said stress can do that. she gave him a couple of different drugs to make him more comfortable and he's not as fussy now. I'm really worried about my big boy...Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Barb, Best wishes and good vibes on the way to Smoky and to you; hopefully it's "only" an infection and you caught it early! I know what you mean about the vet bills! I keep telling myself to take deep breaths! Love, Julie Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo!
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Oh, poor Smoky! Yes, stress absolutely can elevate the glucose level; it's one of the reasonsI started home-testing my diabetics, so that I would be able to have something to compare the office readings to. All best wishes on the way; it can be so scary waiting for all the testing. Still "hoping" for a run-of-the-mill infection. Love, JulieBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His white blood cell count is pushing towards the higher end of normal (17000 with 19000 being the high end) and the cells look very young. They are trying to get a sterile urine sample for a culture, but his bladder is so sensitive that he'll spasm after straining and squirt out urine onto the counter. Frequently with blood clots. They haven't been able to do a urinalysis so far because there is so much blood. One draw looked like it came from a vein and not his bladder his kidney and liver values are fine - although, looking at the fax, his creatinine is at the very high end of normal. his glucose is a bit above normal, but the vet said stress can do that. she gave him a couple of different drugs to make him more comfortable and he's not as fussy now. I'm really worried about my big boy...Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Barb, Best wishes and good vibes on the way to Smoky and to you; hopefully it's "only" an infection and you caught it early! I know what you mean about the vet bills! I keep telling myself to take deep breaths! Love, Julie Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo!"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!
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Title: Message I'm rooting for you and little Smoky, Barb. Hopefully the right medication will fix the problem. Please keep us posted when you have time re his progress--I know how worried you must be. Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I'm so sorry about Smoky's troubles. I'm sure you're feeling overwhelmed with anxiety right now, try and take it one step at a time. You're doing everything you can to help him, I'm sure he knows that. I'm sending you and Smoky love and healing energy. Nina Barb Moermond wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com Get yours free!
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I have prayed for you and Smoky. I hope it is something easily treated. From: Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@vlists.net To: felvtalk@vlists.net Subject: OT - Smoky's bladder Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:55:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from vlists.net ([208.186.168.62]) by mc9-f3.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:55:41 -0800 Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])by vlists.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id j04Htfg16931for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:55:41 -0600 Received: by vps.vlists.net (TLB v0.11a (1.26 tibbs 1998/09/22 04:41:41)); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:55:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])by vlists.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j04Htde16816for felvtalk-utils; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:55:39 -0600 Received: from web41202.mail.yahoo.com (web41202.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.35])by vlists.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id j04HtOX16697for felvtalk@vlists.net; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:55:24 -0600 Received: (qmail 70877 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2005 17:55:08 - Received: from [165.189.51.130] by web41202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:55:08 PST X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFqIv+9Q+iVwfRJiUNvLbsH Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=URVR1zvzxHARoyUy7iQBiHa6qx3XdGVt7NVtUp5edQfIlD3mo2U6Rn7kLlj+byncHVnYHCtv5VH2Yk7ihXiPS57N46jVc38AEHELZ6vgMX43gk5WDWAuNU8mNZkXiS4maqGabYmkLueSIbsyWnW1bB4X5N+LQHoiAYus5tEbPxk= ; Virus-Information: Virus Scanned By VLists.Net For Your Protection. Virus-Status: VLists.Net Found No Virus Spam-Status: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.373, required 5, AWL -0.02,BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_10_20 0.25, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) Precedence: list Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2005 17:55:41.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AE00A90:01C4F286] Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!
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LOL he may know I'm trying to help him, but he still won't forgive me for putting him in the carrier and taking out of the house! And Kerry said "little Smoky" I had to laugh, he's 17.5 pounds!! Relatively speaking, mammal-wise, that's small:) This morning was nuts - I found the blood, had to call work to tell them I had to do the vet thing (and miss the meeting), but I'd already had an appointment to get my stitches out and cast on (I had carpal tunnel surgery last week) and then I had to wrangle the boys and drive CAREFULLY to the vet and then rush to the hospital for my stuff and then back to the vet to go over the estimate (ouch) and I visited the boys for a few minutes and Smoky was very happy to see me, although he did NOT come out from under the chair- Bandit was just scared, still in the carrier - I have a very soft pad in there, so it's quite comfy. I have a great deal of confidence in my vet, this is just scary and I feel so bad for Smoky - he hates being out of the house and he's in pain and it could still be three or four different things going on but last night he got a lovely gentle belly rub and was purring so loud my husband could hear him across the room - about 20' that's why his working name was Diesel:) I will definitely keep y'all posted!!Thanks for the support and vibes!Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry about Smoky's troubles. I'm sure you're feeling overwhelmed with anxiety right now, try and take it one step at a time. You're doing everything you can to help him, I'm sure he knows that. I'm sending you and Smoky love and healing energy.NinaBarb Moermond wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!! ? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
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I hope she is checking him for FUS, cyrstals in the bladder? Lots of prayers coming to all of you. Skeeter had this happen and I got him to the vet just in time his bladder was so full had I waited any longer it would have burst!! They cathedered him and emptied his bladder and then he was on DL-methionine, until we switched to Science Died CD (I think that's what it was, this was almost 20 years ago) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls Vote For Us http://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1 --- Web Design Porfolio http://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolio
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Honestly barb, it sounds like his bladdder is full, have they tried cathering him? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls Vote For Us http://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1 --- Web Design Porfolio http://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolio
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Oh my, you've had quite a morning! I hate it when I have to do something that my cats don't appreciate, but as we all know, cat logic is based on living in the moment, and not always what is best in the long run. Take a deep breath and be careful out there. Nina Barb Moermond wrote: LOL he may know I'm trying to help him, but he still won't forgive me for putting him in the carrier and taking out of the house! And Kerry said little Smoky I had to laugh, he's 17.5 pounds!! Relatively speaking, mammal-wise, that's small:) This morning was nuts - I found the blood, had to call work to tell them I had to do the vet thing (and miss the meeting), but I'd already had an appointment to get my stitches out and cast on (I had carpal tunnel surgery last week) and then I had to wrangle the boys and drive CAREFULLY to the vet and then rush to the hospital for my stuff and then back to the vet to go over the estimate (ouch) and I visited the boys for a few minutes and Smoky was very happy to see me, although he did NOT come out from under the chair - Bandit was just scared, still in the carrier - I have a very soft pad in there, so it's quite comfy. I have a great deal of confidence in my vet, this is just scary and I feel so bad for Smoky - he hates being out of the house and he's in pain and it could still be three or four different things going on but last night he got a lovely gentle belly rub and was purring so loud my husband could hear him across the room - about 20' that's why his working name was Diesel:) I will definitely keep y'all posted!! Thanks for the support and vibes! */Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I'm so sorry about Smoky's troubles. I'm sure you're feeling overwhelmed with anxiety right now, try and take it one step at a time. You're doing everything you can to help him, I'm sure he knows that. I'm sending you and Smoky love and healing energy. Nina Barb Moermond wrote: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. He's been weird the last couple of days and I found fresh blood on his peeper this morning. I'd found a very bloody clump in the box yesterday, but I assumed it was fecal matter because that's what his chronic problem has been. I took the boys in this morning (Bandit was along for moral support) and I spoke to the vet once and she said that there was so much blood in the sterile sample they took that it was coagulating. oof. I'm waiting for her to call back with some test results on his blood and urine and I'm so worried about my big guy. Please send your magic vibes his way and my wallet's way, the bill is already at $350 I can cover this, but not much more - If I could afford it, nothing would be an issue, I have no problem spending the $$ on their care. it's just another worry - esp at this time of year... but hopefully we've caught this early, the piddle on the bed yesterday was not discolored at all... pray for him!! Thanks folks! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!! ? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/virus/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail/static/protection.html - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
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They are keeping an eye on him and as he is getting small amounts out, he's not blocked. I'm going to be calling them shortly to see if they were able to get a sterile sample. I really hope they were because they need to do a culture. I will ask themabout usingcatheter on him. The only test they were able to do on the urine was cytology and they didn't see any crystals. The x-rays have a shadow that they believe is cellular (blood clots) because of the amount of blood in there:( Will keep you posted!Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly barb, it sounds like his bladdder is full, have they triedcathering him?--BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsVote For Ushttp://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1---Web Design Porfoliohttp://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolioBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
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Barb, Sorry to hear about Smoky sending healing vibes his way. Carla
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Barb, Just an FTI, even when they have crystals they can get out small amounts I realized Skeeter had been straining to pee for a few days but never really thought anything about it until like you he was dripping bloody pee on the floor after trying to go. They don't have to not be able to get anything out to have this condition, ad it is deadly if not diagnosed. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls Vote For Us http://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1 --- Web Design Porfolio http://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolio
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The reason they'd wanted to wait was for the bladder to get more fluid in it - it had been quite flaccid and they'd wanted a good sample. They were just able to get one and Smoky is resting comfortably now (better living through pharmaceuticals) and snuggling w/Bandit. I'll be able to pick them up in about 1.5 hrs... they are doing the analysis as I type.Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are keeping an eye on him and as he is getting small amounts out, he's not blocked. I'm going to be calling them shortly to see if they were able to get a sterile sample. I really hope they were because they need to do a culture. I will ask themabout usingcatheter on him. The only test they were able to do on the urine was cytology and they didn't see any crystals. The x-rays have a shadow that they believe is cellular (blood clots) because of the amount of blood in there:( Will keep you posted!Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly barb, it sounds like his bladdder is full, have they triedcathering him?--BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsVote For Ushttp://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1---Web Design Porfoliohttp://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolioBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
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Title: Message Barb, We are pulling for Smoky here. I know all will be fine. Joan -Original Message-From: Barb Moermond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 PMTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder The reason they'd wanted to wait was for the bladder to get more fluid in it - it had been quite flaccid and they'd wanted a good sample. They were just able to get one and Smoky is resting comfortably now (better living through pharmaceuticals) and snuggling w/Bandit. I'll be able to pick them up in about 1.5 hrs... they are doing the analysis as I type.Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are keeping an eye on him and as he is getting small amounts out, he's not blocked. I'm going to be calling them shortly to see if they were able to get a sterile sample. I really hope they were because they need to do a culture. I will ask themabout usingcatheter on him. The only test they were able to do on the urine was cytology and they didn't see any crystals. The x-rays have a shadow that they believe is cellular (blood clots) because of the amount of blood in there:( Will keep you posted!Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly barb, it sounds like his bladdder is full, have they triedcathering him?--BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsVote For Ushttp://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1---Web Design Porfoliohttp://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolioBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
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OK, lots of prayers that it is something easily remedied!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls Vote For Us http://www.bemikitties.com/toplist/cgi-bin/topsites.cgi?id=1 --- Web Design Porfolio http://www.bemikitties.com/bmksamples.htm#portfolio
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Did you start him on antibiotics in case it is an infection while they are figuring this out? I would insist on doing that, as I do not think it could hurt. Also, if they have trouble figuring out, and if you can afford it, you might want to be referred to an internist. But they are usually expensive. Michelle
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We're home:) The urinalysis didn't show any crystals or calculi and the culture will take a bit longer. His PH is at 6, which is the high end of the normal range. There was still a lot of blood in his urine, although it looked older - the cells were broken down. And the WBC HFD (high field density, high power microscope on itty bitty pinhead of urine) showed 3 WBC and that's getting kinda high. They showed me the urine samples they'd pulled and the two they did this morning just looked like pure blood, one had a clot in it too They'd given him some acepromezine this morning to ease his bladder spasms and the pain - it also calmed him down quite a bit, made him much more comfortable. At some point today, he peed in the carrier, it was probably after they'd gotten the sample this afternoon, because when I pulled the pad out of the carrier, it was still wet, but not warm. Lots of blood. He's back in the spot here in! the bedroom where he's been the last couple of days... it's kind of barricaded, so since I know I have to check it out for urine etc, I know what tonight's project is.. oog. Anyhoo, they've put him on clavamox and acepromezine for now and depending on what the culture grows, they'll extend the clavamox 'script (right now I only have enough for 7 days) heh, never mind - I just found out it was Bandit in that spot - I still have to check it out though. Smoky is pretty drugged right now - like me last week:) They also gave me Waltham's prescription recipe for urinary problems and I bought a couple cans. Until we get the culture results, we just have to keep an eye on his potty habits and make sure that he's actually producing urine when he goes and hopefully that will be the case and also that the urine output will be in the litter box - but as long as there is output, I'll just weather the um, storm and use my anti-icky poo where necessary. I don't think that an internist would be called for - this clinic is feline only, a member of the American Animal Hospital Associationand two of the three vets are Diplomats for the AmericanBoard ofVeterinary Practitioners in Feline Practice. They really know their stuff. But if they can't figure something out, they don't hesitate to contact someone at the UW-Madison Vet School for help. And the gods help me if I have to go to someplace even more expensive than my clinic! Keep my poor baby in your thoughts and add a little post-script to his brother not to pick on him for a few days, little stinker. Will keep you all posted - I am so grateful to have you guys!![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you start him on antibiotics in case it is an infection while they are figuring this out? I would insist on doing that, as I do not think it could hurt. Also, if they have trouble figuring out, and if you can afford it, you might want to be referred to an internist. But they are usually expensive. MichelleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
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In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:56:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. Poor Smokey, My friends kitty Mojo..not Felv+...just went through this..but it was completely out of the blue..never had problems before..he was 6 years old...they had to do the surgery to remove his penis and reroute his bladder...he made it through the surgery..but unfortuananly not the night after...poor guy..I pray Smokey fairs batter and it isnt so serious!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
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OK, that scares me, Smoky is 6.5 BUT, so far so good. I am heading for bed now, it's been a VERY long day, especially considering I had surgery 9 days ago! Will keep y'all posted! g'night[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:56:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. Poor Smokey, My friends kitty Mojo..not Felv+...just went through this..but it was completely out of the blue..never had problems before..he was 6 years old...they had to do the surgery to remove his penis and reroute his bladder...he made it through the surgery..but unfortuananly not the night after...poor guy..I pray Smokey fairs batter and it isnt so serious!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
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so much for bed... Smoky piddled once in his new spot behind a chair in the bedroom, very bloody, but he also piddled in the box and poopied. But he was straining so hard when he was piddling he farted:( I checked his nether region for um, debris and poopy was fine but there is blood in his fur around his peeper. There also seems to be a swelling that is VERY sensitive between his anus and penis.. he did NOT like me blotting or wiping even very very gently... I wish I could make him better instantly:( on the hunt for a local retailer for what Tonya calls puppy pads:) will post as events warrantBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, that scares me, Smoky is 6.5 BUT, so far so good. I am heading for bed now, it's been a VERY long day, especially considering I had surgery 9 days ago! Will keep y'all posted! g'night[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:56:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. Poor Smokey, My friends kitty Mojo..not Felv+...just went through this..but it was completely out of the blue..never had problems before..he was 6 years old...they had to do the surgery to remove his penis and reroute his bladder...he made it through the surgery..but unfortuananly not the night after...poor guy..I pray Smokey fairs batter and it isnt so serious!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.
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Barb, Although, these reports do not sound encouraging, you never know what tomorrow will bring. I'm praying that they figure out what's going on (fast), and you get him on a treatment that will turn this all around. Hang in there. Also, just in case your not aware, you can get poopy pads at hospital supply stores, (this may already be what you guys were talking about). They've got blue plastic on one side, and an absorbent lining on the other. I seem to recall them being pretty inexpensive. I hope you're sleeping as I write this, Nina Barb Moermond wrote: so much for bed... Smoky piddled once in his new spot behind a chair in the bedroom, very bloody, but he also piddled in the box and poopied. But he was straining so hard when he was piddling he farted:( I checked his nether region for um, debris and poopy was fine but there is blood in his fur around his peeper. There also seems to be a swelling that is VERY sensitive between his anus and penis.. he did NOT like me blotting or wiping even very very gently... I wish I could make him better instantly:( on the hunt for a local retailer for what Tonya calls puppy pads:) will post as events warrant */Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: OK, that scares me, Smoky is 6.5 BUT, so far so good. I am heading for bed now, it's been a VERY long day, especially considering I had surgery 9 days ago! Will keep y'all posted! g'night */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:56:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. Poor Smokey, My friends kitty Mojo..not Felv+...just went through this..but it was completely out of the blue..never had problems before..he was 6 years old...they had to do the surgery to remove his penis and reroute his bladder...he made it through the surgery..but unfortuananly not the night after...poor guy..I pray Smokey fairs batter and it isnt so serious!!! Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar http://www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel cross Bennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/virus/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail/static/protection.html - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/spamguard/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail/static/protection.html.
RE: OT - Smoky's bladder
You should find puppy pads in any fairly large pet store. They're used to paper train puppies. In a pinch, you can always use large baby diapers...same sort of thing as puppy pads except the puppy pads lie completely flat when you open them Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:20 AM To: felvtalk@vlists.net Subject: Re: OT - Smoky's bladder Barb, Although, these reports do not sound encouraging, you never know what tomorrow will bring. I'm praying that they figure out what's going on (fast), and you get him on a treatment that will turn this all around. Hang in there. Also, just in case your not aware, you can get poopy pads at hospital supply stores, (this may already be what you guys were talking about). They've got blue plastic on one side, and an absorbent lining on the other. I seem to recall them being pretty inexpensive. I hope you're sleeping as I write this, Nina Barb Moermond wrote: so much for bed... Smoky piddled once in his new spot behind a chair in the bedroom, very bloody, but he also piddled in the box and poopied. But he was straining so hard when he was piddling he farted:( I checked his nether region for um, debris and poopy was fine but there is blood in his fur around his peeper. There also seems to be a swelling that is VERY sensitive between his anus and penis.. he did NOT like me blotting or wiping even very very gently... I wish I could make him better instantly:( on the hunt for a local retailer for what Tonya calls puppy pads:) will post as events warrant */Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: OK, that scares me, Smoky is 6.5 BUT, so far so good. I am heading for bed now, it's been a VERY long day, especially considering I had surgery 9 days ago! Will keep y'all posted! g'night */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:56:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd thought Smoky was just p.o.'d at me when he piddled on the bed yesterday morning. Poor Smokey, My friends kitty Mojo..not Felv+...just went through this..but it was completely out of the blue..never had problems before..he was 6 years old...they had to do the surgery to remove his penis and reroute his bladder...he made it through the surgery..but unfortuananly not the night after...poor guy..I pray Smokey fairs batter and it isnt so serious!!! Lisa and fur-brats Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar http://www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund Bow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel cross Bennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/virus/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/ new_mail/static/protection.html - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/spamguard/*http://promotions.yahoo. com/new_mail/static/protection.html.
