Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
To do what you want (i.e. just have the left bracket with the number) you'll need to enter two repeats in the same measure: 1) the two dots with double bar (not with a bracket over it) 2) the opening bracket as you would to indicate the start of the second ending. David David, By selecting the Repeat Tool and clicking a measure, the Repeat Selection dialog box appears: there are, at the top, four icons you can select. I tried to do what you suggested by selecting the second icon from the left [the two dots with double bar (not with a bracket over it)], and then the first icon from the right [the opening bracket as you would to indicate the start of the second]. I'll call these Icon B and icon D. This is what i get on my Mac with Fin 2k4c: 1. Only icon B selected: two dots with double bar and no bracket 2. Only icon D selected: a single bracket with editable text 3. Selecting B first then D: a double bracket appears, with the right bracket not having a left hook and the editable text attached to the left bracket 4. Selecting D first then B: the single D bracket becomes double when selecting the B icon: same result as where 3. It seems there is no way to get out from this situation; does anyone use alternate solutions? Any particular plugin? Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
On Jul 9, 2004, at 12:31 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: This is what i get on my Mac with Fin 2k4c: 1. Only icon B selected: two dots with double bar and no bracket 2. Only icon D selected: a single bracket with editable text 3. Selecting B first then D: a double bracket appears, with the right bracket not having a left hook and the editable text attached to the left bracket 4. Selecting D first then B: the single D bracket becomes double when selecting the B icon: same result as where 3. It seems there is no way to get out from this situation; does anyone use alternate solutions? Any particular plugin? I still don't understand what the problem is. For 1st endings, you want both B and D. Why does it matter if the bracket is double? The two horizonal lines overlap exactly and it appears fine, right? mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
On Jul 9, 2004, at 12:31 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: This is what i get on my Mac with Fin 2k4c: 1. Only icon B selected: two dots with double bar and no bracket 2. Only icon D selected: a single bracket with editable text 3. Selecting B first then D: a double bracket appears, with the right bracket not having a left hook and the editable text attached to the left bracket 4. Selecting D first then B: the single D bracket becomes double when selecting the B icon: same result as where 3. It seems there is no way to get out from this situation; does anyone use alternate solutions? Any particular plugin? I still don't understand what the problem is. For 1st endings, you want both B and D. Why does it matter if the bracket is double? The two horizonal lines overlap exactly and it appears fine, right? mdl If you want to manually adjust, lets say, the right hook, dragging it's handle to one side will not drag the other bracket's handle, so, the overlapping is not always guaranteed. I still 'ld like to know what the sense of two overlapped brackets is. Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Ooh, gmail!
At 8:38 am -0700 7/8/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Thursday, Jul 8, 2004, at 01:49 America/Vancouver, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: Isn't anyone else concerned about the privacy violation implicit in letting google's robots paw through a gigabyte of their mail, everything from list subscriptions to personal mail to order receipts, in order to 'categorize the user' for google's advertisers? It doesn't categorize the user. It's on a message-by-message basis, and ads only pertain to what is currently on the screen... not some conspiratorial user profile they're making behind your back. The idea of some advertiser-driven company analyzing all of that information about my interests and contacts makes me feel absolutely creepy. Again, they don't analyze it in bulk. They just target ads to the message currently shown on the screen, like the Google Ads that you see all over the Web. Brad, I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that they don't aggregate the user's information and categorize the individual across a large personal-interest matrix. I acknowledge that the ads appearing with an individual message are almost certainly dictated primarily by the content of that message. To do otherwise would be antithetical to basic marketing principles: The mark is interested in (in this case reading about) some subject. Try to sell him something that relates to that interest. However, the only conceivable purpose in allowing such a huge amount of storage for each user is to better improve the granularity of the message response. (1GB times how many million potential subscribers?) That's basic customer analysis: e.g. The mark is reading about sports. Does he like baseball, but deletes all messages about soccer? What about football? Is he a little league coach? Does he buy his team's equipment? Is he into sports betting? Is his wife a tennis nut with an upcoming birthday? If I were running the show I would be analyzing that whole GB of storage to better categorize my ad targets. I would also have analyzed all of the targets' deleted mail to better fill out the individualized profiles. To do anything else would be a stupid waste of valuable data and, whatever else I think about google, I would never accuse them of being stupid when it comes to marketing and advertising. It would truly shock me if google's business plan, as presented to their potential advertisers and financiers, did not include the promise of extremely fine-grain message-derived analysis of their subscribers. To do otherwise would risk having all but the most inept marketeers walking away from the table shaking their heads and pocketing their checkbooks (and the investment bankers screaming bloody murder). Best wishes, -=-Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
On Jul 9, 2004, at 12:56 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: If you want to manually adjust, lets say, the right hook, dragging it's handle to one side will not drag the other bracket's handle, so, the overlapping is not always guaranteed. The overlapping of the horizontal line always works. The vertical lines don't need to overlap. If you don't want a right hook on the left bracket, go into Document Settings Repeat Endings, and make sure the value for Length of Back Hook is zero. I already suggested that in a previous post, but perhaps you never saw that one. If that doesn't solve your hook problem, then again I don't understand what it is you're trying to describe. I still 'ld like to know what the sense of two overlapped brackets is. The sense of two separate brackets is that they have two different functions and you won't always want both. If your second ending continues on, then you'll want just the left bracket and no right bracket. If your first ending is several bars long, you'll want both but not in the same bar. Each bracket does its own kind of thing. If you don't want both, use just the one. (If the back hook length isn't zero by default in the templates, then I agree that's sort of silly, since more often than not you won't want a back hook, and it's easier to add one than get rid of one. But if so, that's a flaw of the templates, not the program. Lord knows there's plenty of other dumb settings in Coda's templates) mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
Giovanni Andreani wrote: On Jul 9, 2004, at 12:31 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: This is what i get on my Mac with Fin 2k4c: 1. Only icon B selected: two dots with double bar and no bracket 2. Only icon D selected: a single bracket with editable text 3. Selecting B first then D: a double bracket appears, with the right bracket not having a left hook and the editable text attached to the left bracket 4. Selecting D first then B: the single D bracket becomes double when selecting the B icon: same result as where 3. It seems there is no way to get out from this situation; does anyone use alternate solutions? Any particular plugin? I still don't understand what the problem is. For 1st endings, you want both B and D. Why does it matter if the bracket is double? The two horizonal lines overlap exactly and it appears fine, right? mdl If you want to manually adjust, lets say, the right hook, dragging it's handle to one side will not drag the other bracket's handle, so, the overlapping is not always guaranteed. I still 'ld like to know what the sense of two overlapped brackets is. The two overlapped brakets are merely there when you have only one measure in the first ending. But if you create a first ending of, for example, 5 measures, you put what you call icon B in the final measure of the ending and icon D in the first measure, you don't end up with a closing tail to the bracket. But if you use icon C in the 5th measure, you then don't have overlapping lines at all, since icon D's line is only one measure long and icon C's line is only one measure long, leaving 3 intervening measures with no line clearly indicating that they are part of the first ending. So you drag the two lines until the meet (my experience is that it is best to leave them overlapping some) and you have a complete ending bracket. I just experimented with my suggested solution and I hadn't tried it yet in 2004 before I suggested it to you -- how odd to have Finale change the repeat sign to icon C when you select icon B simply because it realizes you are creating a complete first ending. I hate it when programs don't do what I tell them to do, as if they are smarter than I or that I don't have the right to do things differently than their narrow programming paradigms have predicted. So if you don't want the two brackets (or the appearance of having two brackets, or the right hook at the end of the bracket) it seems that with Fin2004 we're stuck with having to drag the handle of the hook to make it appear not to be there. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
Can someone please confirm the following bug: Letters with accents (ie à) in expressions show with an extra character behind them, and print that way too. It makes no difference whether those expressions were entered in 2k4b or 2k4c, but they only have this problem in 2k4c. For me this bug is very serious. It means I cannot use 2k4c. If other's can confirm the bug and feel the same, please bug Coda as much as you can! Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] playing it in
Listers, I am sure that many of you have done it...and I am hoping that you can help me learn how to create an organ part to an existing arrangement, by having the organist play his improvisation. I work with an organist who has a MIDI IN/OUT on the sanctuary organ in his church. How can I get his improvised organ part into my arrangement? Do I need to bring my computer to the church? Ouch! Suggestions, please, and many thanks. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
Can someone please confirm the following bug: Letters with accents (ie à) in expressions show with an extra character behind them, and print that way too. It makes no difference whether those expressions were entered in 2k4b or 2k4c, but they only have this problem in 2k4c. For me this bug is very serious. It means I cannot use 2k4c. If other's can confirm the bug and feel the same, please bug Coda as much as you can! Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de Johannes, I created an à expression mark: it shows and prints fine, with no other extra character. Running Fin2k4c on OS 10.3.4 Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
...I hate it when programs don't do what I tell them to do, as if they are smarter than I or that I don't have the right to do things differently than their narrow programming paradigms have predicted. So if you don't want the two brackets (or the appearance of having two brackets, or the right hook at the end of the bracket) it seems that with Fin2004 we're stuck with having to drag the handle of the hook to make it appear not to be there. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] And that's. with any chance, what I'll be doing Thank you Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
On 09.07.2004 13:48 Uhr, Giovanni Andreani wrote Johannes, I created an à expression mark: it shows and prints fine, with no other extra character. Running Fin2k4c on OS 10.3.4 That's very strange. Can you try to do this in NewCentury Schoolbook italic? That's the font I used which has this problem? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac - solved
I found the problem at my end. Sorry about the confusion! Johannes On 09.07.2004 13:59 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote On 09.07.2004 13:48 Uhr, Giovanni Andreani wrote Johannes, I created an à expression mark: it shows and prints fine, with no other extra character. Running Fin2k4c on OS 10.3.4 That's very strange. Can you try to do this in NewCentury Schoolbook italic? That's the font I used which has this problem? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] remove me from the mailing list, P L E A S E
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[Finale] OT: Band in a Box released for OSX
And thus ends (for me) the ballad of OS9. http://www.pgmusic.com (and if you hate top quoting check out the PG web forums - new posts appear above the previous one and you have to go to the bottom and scroll up to read them in order!) -- Rocky Road - in Oz Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] remove me from the mailing list, P L E A S E
At 08:52 AM 07/09/2004, eli gozlan wrote: Please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the Finale mailing list. Please remove yourself -- visit the URL at the bottom of this (and every) message. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
At 1:49 AM -0700 7/09/04, Mark D Lew wrote: (If the back hook length isn't zero by default in the templates, then I agree that's sort of silly, since more often than not you won't want a back hook, and it's easier to add one than get rid of one. But if so, that's a flaw of the templates, not the program. Lord knows there's plenty of other dumb settings in Coda's templates) Make sure that you send any suggestions of improvements to odd template settings to MakeMusic, as they are trying to improve Finale's out-of-the-box usability (and rightly so!) I have already done so on several occasions, and lo and behold some of them were incorporated into later versions of Finale's defaults. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
At 12:32 PM +0200 7/09/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Can someone please confirm the following bug: Letters with accents (ie à) in expressions show with an extra character behind them, and print that way too. It makes no difference whether those expressions were entered in 2k4b or 2k4c, but they only have this problem in 2k4c. For me this bug is very serious. It means I cannot use 2k4c. If other's can confirm the bug and feel the same, please bug Coda as much as you can! Johannes I don't use 2004 much, but I noticed in the last six months or so on my Mac in OS9 that the usual keyboard commands for accents stop working, but then start working again after I change my keyboard to some other language (usually CDN French), then back to US. This means when I type opt tilde(~) then e to get è, I get instead `e as two different characters. But as I said, it starts working again when I switch languages. I don't know if this is related, but it coincides more or less with the time I installed 2004 on my OSX partition. I wonder if some fonts were replaced with ones that don't behave the same? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] playing it in
4) Finale's quantization routine (as most quantization routines are) is very strict -- if you set it to recognize nothing smaller than 16th notes, that's what you'll get, even if the organist plays a 32nd-note run. On the other hand, if you set it to recognize 32nd notes, it may well interpret 8ths as dotted-16th-note/32nd-rest combinations if the organist plays staccato. The best solution for different rhythmic passages like this is can be to quantize the piece more than once, as separate files, and copy and paste from each. RBH - Original Message - From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] playing it in Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: Listers, I am sure that many of you have done it...and I am hoping that you can help me learn how to create an organ part to an existing arrangement, by having the organist play his improvisation. I work with an organist who has a MIDI IN/OUT on the sanctuary organ in his church. How can I get his improvised organ part into my arrangement? Do I need to bring my computer to the church? Ouch! Suggestions, please, and many thanks. If the organ has a disk drive in it and can record performances as midi sequences, you only need to have him record it and then bring the floppy disk to your computer. If the organ doesn't have a disk drive, you'll need to have some sort of device to record the midi data, either your computer, or a notebook computer with a midi interface and sequencer software, or a midi recorder such as the Yamaha MDF3 or the QY100 or some such portable device. HOWEVER, before thinking you'll be able to magically get his improvisation into Finale for neat printing, you need to take some things into account: 1) the beat source will need to be rock steady (no romantic ebbing and flowing of the tempo) or Finale won't interpret it correctly; 2) Finale's midi import isn't very good at complex rhythms such as nested tuplets; 3) Finale won't necessarily interpret the staff breaks as the organist wants them to be, unless the organ outputs the midi data from the various manuals and pedals to different midi tracks. But even then, if the organist is playing with both hands on the same manual, sometimes middle C may be played as part of a left-hand passage and sometimes as part of a right hand passage and Finale won't be able to differentiate, so it will always appear on whichever staff you determine by where you set the staff-break-point; 4) Finale's quantization routine (as most quantization routines are) is very strict -- if you set it to recognize nothing smaller than 16th notes, that's what you'll get, even if the organist plays a 32nd-note run. On the other hand, if you set it to recognize 32nd notes, it may well interpret 8ths as dotted-16th-note/32nd-rest combinations if the organist plays staccato. Best will be if you can bring a computer that has Finale installed on it to church and experiment with all of this to find what combination of settings will work best for your situation. It probably can be done with experimentation, but success is not guaranteed. Be willing to spend a lot of time to get things just right, and realize that you may never get them right. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
Johannes writes: Can someone please confirm the following bug: Letters with accents (ie à) in expressions show with an extra character behind them, and print that way too. It makes no difference whether those expressions were entered in 2k4b or 2k4c, but they only have this problem in 2k4c. For me this bug is very serious. It means I cannot use 2k4c. If other's can confirm the bug and feel the same, please bug Coda as much as you can! Dear Johannes, No. Various accents look fine on screen and print fine. I'm using Finale 2004c on my iMac. I have the standard American keyboard that uses the option key with others to produce the accent characters. Perhaps your keyboard is different. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FinMac04c - slow EPS export of big files
Has anyone tried this? Any problems? 1. In FinMac04c, open a large ensemble file (orchestra, band, etc. with lots of staves and notes per page) created in FinMac02 or earlier. 2. Try EPS export of one or more pages. I skipped FinMac03 and waited for EPS export on Fin04. For some reason, EPS export in Fin04c is very slow on my PowerMac (G4, 500 MHz, 832 MB RAM, OS 10.3.4). Thanks. Paul Hayden -- Magnolia Music Press http://www.paulhayden.com 6319 Riverbend Blvd. Baton Rouge, LA 70820 Voice Fax: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Band in a Box released for OSX
I bought and downloaded it like the first day they had it out. Very nice. Works very well. There are a couple of little things that could be better, like the CoreMidi support, but in all it's great to leave all those OS 9 programs behind. Oh, and if you use the built in sounds, you can set Quicktime to use Finale 2004's sounds instead of Quicktime sounds. To me, they sound better. Rocky Road wrote: And thus ends (for me) the ballad of OS9. http://www.pgmusic.com (and if you hate top quoting check out the PG web forums - new posts appear above the previous one and you have to go to the bottom and scroll up to read them in order!) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Switching computers and data transfer
Nab a USB Zip100 drive at Wal-Mart (or your favorite computer store) for $35-40. Plug that into your iMac and read all of your old Zip disks. You might find the portable Zip handy for other uses as well (I know I did) Hope this helps Allen Allen: Since I already have most of my files backed up on Zip 100 Disks, the most attractive solution to me, is to transfer data via your suggestion. If I do purchase a USB drive (again, my inexperience will become evident here), which port do I plug it into on the iMac? Does Walmart really carry that sort of stuff? Thanks. Dean True justice is an extract of pure truth; not a biproduct of plea bargains, the eternal search for the legal loophole, or any other convolution of litigious sophistry. DME Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] playing it in
At 10:25 AM -0400 7/09/04, Raymond Horton wrote: 4) Finale's quantization routine (as most quantization routines are) is very strict -- if you set it to recognize nothing smaller than 16th notes, that's what you'll get, even if the organist plays a 32nd-note run. On the other hand, if you set it to recognize 32nd notes, it may well interpret 8ths as dotted-16th-note/32nd-rest combinations if the organist plays staccato. The best solution for different rhythmic passages like this is can be to quantize the piece more than once, as separate files, and copy and paste from each. it IS possible to re-quantise after everything is entered, and by section, with different settings for each passage as you wish. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Switching computers and data transfer
Nab a USB Zip100 drive at Wal-Mart (or your favorite computer store) for $35-40. Plug that into your iMac and read all of your old Zip disks. You might find the portable Zip handy for other uses as well (I know I did) Hope this helps Allen Allen: Since I already have most of my files backed up on Zip 100 Disks, the most attractive solution to me, is to transfer data via your suggestion. If I do purchase a USB drive (again, my inexperience will become evident here), which port do I plug it into on the iMac? Does Walmart really carry that sort of stuff? Thanks. Dean By the way, I aready have a portable Zip 100 Drive (Serial Port Type). Is there an adaptor to turn this unit into a USB port device, or do I, in fact, just need to by a USB device? Dean True justice is an extract of pure truth; not a biproduct of plea bargains, the eternal search for the legal loophole, or any other convolution of litigious sophistry. DME Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] playing it in
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:18:44 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:25 AM -0400 7/09/04, Raymond Horton wrote: 4) Finale's quantization routine (as most quantization routines are) is very strict -- if you set it to recognize nothing smaller than 16th notes, that's what you'll get, even if the organist plays a 32nd-note run. On the other hand, if you set it to recognize 32nd notes, it may well interpret 8ths as dotted-16th-note/32nd-rest combinations if the organist plays staccato. The best solution for different rhythmic passages like this is can be to quantize the piece more than once, as separate files, and copy and paste from each. it IS possible to re-quantise after everything is entered, and by section, with different settings for each passage as you wish. But this only works for full measures. If it's important to have Finale do the transcription, and measures are sufficiently varied (such as one containing both a grace note and a quintuplet, as in a piece I recently engraved that started as a MIDI file from the composer), you might want to quantize it in different ways in separate copies. This can be done with either separate files or merely separate staves, and then you can copy partial measures into the original measure. Though this is possible, I don't use this method. In the project I described, I just quantized it to take care of the quintuplet and then manually created the grace note. It might be quicker for some to try out the quantize-multiple-copies method, though. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Switching computers and data transfer
In a message dated 7/9/04 12:38:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, I aready have a portable Zip 100 Drive (Serial Port Type). Is there an adaptor to turn this unit into a USB port device, or do I, in fact, just need to by a USB device? I don't know if the type of adapter you are looking for exists, however, I needed an adapter for my ColorStyle Writer Printer when I got an IMac and found an ethermac adapter produced by a company called Farallon. I seem to recall they had all kinds of stuff like that, so perhaps you can find what you are looking for there. Good Luck. Nick Raspa NJR Music Enterprises ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Switching computers and data transfer
In response to a query from Dean, Allen wrote : Nab a USB Zip100 drive at Wal-Mart (or your favorite computer store) for $35-40. Plug that into your iMac and read all of your old Zip disks. You might find the portable Zip handy for other uses as well (I know I did) to which Dean responded, in part If I do purchase a USB drive (again, my inexperience will become evident here), which port do I plug it into on the iMac? Does Walmart really carry that sort of stuff? to which I might add, it doesn't matter which USB port one plugs into; it is plug and play, hot-swappable [that is, you can plug it in, and unplug it without powering down] technology. As to whether Wal Mart carries this stuff, it is my experience that the further in the wilds one is, the more computer stuff Wal Mart carries. Urban stores, such as here in Dallas, carry a little; rurul stores, like 120 miles north in Durant, OK, carry a much wider selection of computer stuf. BUT, for my money, unless time is crucial, I'd first check the iomega on-line store; remanufactured USB-ZIP 100's sell at a discount, with new warranty. But you might also consider different back-up technology; ZIP-250's will read ZIP 100 disks, and my preference would probably be to go to a USB CD-RW drive at this point. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Scare quotes
Here's Prof. Dennett's reply to my inquiry: On 09 Jul, 2004, at 01:39 PM, Daniel Dennett wrote: I've been using the term for years, but I don't know if I invented it. I don't think so. But then I don't know who did. DCD Darcy James Argue wrote: Hello Prof. Dennett, There is an ongoing discussion on an email list I subscribe to about the term scare quotes. Someone mentioned that the earliest available citation he could find for this term was in _Consciousness Explained_. Is this term original to you? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] slur contours
I have several templates for my work. In several, especially some with the NOVEMBER font, the slur contours are too extreme and lose any semblance to the quality I seek. Is there a means or workaround that others have found? I have Tobias' full set of tools as well. -- Henry Howey, D.M.A. Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/~music/faculty/howey.html Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] slur contours
On 09.07.2004 21:54 Uhr, Henry Howey wrote I have several templates for my work. In several, especially some with the NOVEMBER font, the slur contours are too extreme and lose any semblance to the quality I seek. Is there a means or workaround that others have found? I have Tobias' full set of tools as well. I can only guess that you are using Engraver slurs with a font that doesn't have the correct font annotation file installed. I think there should be one premade for November, you should be able to find it at www.finaletips.nu. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
On Jul 9, 2004, at 3:30 AM, dhbailey wrote: I went to check out that setting for back hook length, since I don't like them most of the time, and to my shock and horror found that it IS set to zero! But, every time I place an ending, there IS a back hook. Wow, that's mighty strange. Maybe it's different in 2k4? Unless I'm still misunderstanding, I don't have this problem in Fin Mac 2k4. If I choose the first ending item for my repeat I get a left hook and no right hook, just as I'd expect. Having you tried playing with the back hook number there? You know, put in a large number, then a large negative number, etc., to see what the logic is. Does it have no effect at all? Maybe they're counting from a different position now and instead of entering zero you need to enter the negative of your front hook length or the bracket height or something like that. Or maybe there's some other separate setting that I've got changed and you don't? mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Brackets
On Jul 9, 2004, at 3:26 AM, dhbailey wrote: I just experimented with my suggested solution and I hadn't tried it yet in 2004 before I suggested it to you -- how odd to have Finale change the repeat sign to icon C when you select icon B simply because it realizes you are creating a complete first ending. I hate it when programs don't do what I tell them to do, as if they are smarter than I or that I don't have the right to do things differently than their narrow programming paradigms have predicted. I just did this experiment, and I see I get the same result. That is: If you put a backward-repeat-without-bracket in a measure, and then in the same measure also put a first-ending item, then Finale automatically converts the backward-repeat-without-bracket into a backward-repeat-WITH-bracket. That is indeed strange. I hadn't noticed it before because I've never needed that particular combination. Whenever I've had both in the same bar, I wanted the closing bracket, so I always picked the with-bracket option in the first place. So is this the essence of the problem Giovanni was having which I could never quite understand? I can see that if you want the repeat bar with the dots and no hook at all, then it looks like you have to reduce the hook to zero individually. But I thought he was saying the problem was getting two separate hooks that don't line up and he really did want to keep one of them, in which case we're back to the Back Hook problem, which you're saying in 2k4 won't go away even if you set it to zero in the Options. I'm not having that problem in 2k2. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Caution: Bug in Finale 2k4c Mac
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 18:04:13 +0200, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09.07.2004 17:37 Uhr, Harold Owen wrote Really? Now that is strange, because the bug I reported was actually due to something else, and should _not_ be in the release version of 2k4c. The problem was with the updater not updating properly due. In other words, there is no bug in the 2k4c release version as far as I can see now. I am sorry I caused so much confusion. Johannes, How were you able to get the release version of 2k4c to install if you've already got the pre-release installed? I tried it, and it wouldn't run. Then again, I was pretty much convinced that the two versions were exactly the same... is there something different? And is there a trick to installing the release version over the pre-release? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: FinMac04c - slow EPS export of big files
On 7/9/04, Paul Hayden wrote: Has anyone tried this? Any problems? 1. In FinMac04c, open a large ensemble file (orchestra, band, etc. with lots of staves and notes per page) created in FinMac02 or earlier. 2. Try EPS export of one or more pages. I skipped FinMac03 and waited for EPS export on Fin04. For some reason, EPS export in Fin04c is very slow on my PowerMac (G4, 500 MHz, 832 MB RAM, OS 10.3.4). I finally got a reply (see below) from MakeMusic about this problem. I tried their suggestions, but none of them helped my EPS export speed problem. I guess I'll just have to save my pennies and buy a 10 GHz quad-processor G8. :-\ Paul Hayden At 3:46 PM -0500 7/9/04, MacSupport wrote: Finale 2004 in general will be slower number 1 because it is under OSX (a more processor-intensive operating system to begin with), as well as the fact that it is not yet fully optimized for OSX having just been ported over from OS9 code (dating back over 14 years ago!) Finale's performance depends essentially on your system hardware. (processor speed, RAM, video card, etc...) There are also some minor adjustments you can make that will help its performance. First, make sure that you are quit out of classic (which can take up a huge amount of resources from OSX, as well as conflicting with how OSX CoreMIDI works). Go to the System Preferences, and click on the Classic icon. Click STOP if you have the choice to do so. Some things you can do in Finale: - Have Finale load only the Plug-ins that you use. This can be done by dragging the unwanted plugins out of the Plugins folder found in the Finale folder on your desktop or a separate folder. - Turn off Automatic Music Spacing and Automatic Update Layout in the Edit menu. (Remember to update the layout of your document regularly by using the Update Layout option in the Edit menu, and to space your music using MassEdit.) - Play back without the SmartMusic Softsynth soundfont. Go to the MIDI menuInternal speaker playback and choose Off, or the Quicktime Playback instead. -If you are using lyrics in your document, make Smart Hyphens and Smart Word Extensions be a manual update instead of automatic. You will find these options in the Options menuProgram optionsView. You can manually update these by going to the Lyrics menuUpdate Word Extensions, Lyrics menuUpdate Hyphens. - Set Human Playback to None in the Playback Controls. -If you are experiencing delays when nudging or dragging items, try decreasing your monitor color depth from millions to thousands of colors. Reducing your overall monitor resolution will also help in this regard. -- Magnolia Music Press http://www.paulhayden.com 6319 Riverbend Blvd. Baton Rouge, LA 70820 Voice Fax: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Font Fix - new walkthrough w/files
John Poole wrote: I started to write a reply to some questions posed about EPS font problems and decided to go ahead and create a walk-through showing screenshots and providing the test files with the hope that they will prove to be instructive and assist people having problems with EPS exports in Windows. Thank you, John for this work. I followed your method exactly. I am on Windows XP Home and Finale2004b.r1 I opened your MUS file in Finale and exported it as EPS. In Photoshop Elements the text blocks of my version of singl001.EPS are fine and the music characters are wrong just like the ones in your screen shot. My EPS export also had 13 instances of a font to replace. In my case it was called TTC7B00 not TT1CAB00. For example: /TTC7B00 ff 85.416664 scf stf 395.9573 2635.563 elw m () t After I replaced these with Maestro, the file opened in Photoshop Elements with all of the Maestro characters correct (the good news). However the text blocks had been turned to Courier (the bad news). I then made 13 files, one for each substitution of TTC7B00, then several replacing some but not others. Several of these showed up as expected with one music character being fixed but not the others. However, I was unable to find a combination of font replacements that did NOT result in Courier being substituted for Arial (actually Helvetica in the EPS listing) and Times-Roman even though I never substituted those fonts, only TTC7B00. As far as I can tell ANY substitution of one or more instances of Maestro for TTC7B00 somehow messed up Arial and Times. Any idea what this means? Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Font Fix - new walkthrough w/files
My last post had an error. My original singl001.EPS file did NOT display Times New Roman and Arial correctly. Both showed as Courier. I looked further. The EPS listing has 'Times-Roman' and 'Helvetica' neither of which are on my system. If I search-and-replace 'Helvetica' with 'Arial' then Arial displays correctly. If I search-and-replace 'Times-Roman' with 'Times New Roman' there is an error message that Photoshop cannot parse the file. If I search-and-replace 'Times-Roman' with any other opentype font with that has only a single word in its name it displays correctly! It seems that font names with spaces are a problem. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
