Re: [Finale] Viola ingrandita (was: Help with strange dashed line)

2010-02-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Mar 2010 at 0:10, Barbara Touburg wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> > 
> > Just curious, but is this the viola version of the quinton? What's 
> > the tuning?
> > 
> I wouldn't know, David. What is a quinton? This viola has an extra low 
> string, it is tuned in 5ths like a normal viola.

A violin quinton is a violin with the an addition string on to, and 
the top two strings tuned like a viol (in fourths), i.e., G/D/A/D/G. 
The viola version, or tenor quinton, would be a fifth lower, 
C/G/D/G/C (the 1911 Brittanica article talks about it 
(http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Violi
n), but Wurlitzer-Bruck actually has a violin quinton for sale 
(http://www.wurlitzerbruck.com/Search/catimg.php?InventoryNumber=INS-
0&img=/INS/Quintone.jpg), and that's why I know about it).

I think the idea of a lower fifth string is pretty radical -- is the 
instrument substantially larger than a regular viola?

> Do you like the piece?

Can't see it as I have only Finale 2003.

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Re: [Finale] Viola ingrandita (was: Help with strange dashed line)

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

David W. Fenton wrote:


Just curious, but is this the viola version of the quinton? What's 
the tuning?


I wouldn't know, David. What is a quinton? This viola has an extra low 
string, it is tuned in 5ths like a normal viola.


Do you like the piece?
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Feb 2010 at 18:20, Barbara Touburg wrote:

>  (F.y.i.: a viola ingrandita is a viola with a fifth
> string, there's only one instrument, in Amsterdam.)

Just curious, but is this the viola version of the quinton? What's 
the tuning?

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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

Noel Stoutenburg wrote:


Almost. The URL is case sensitive, so that the file name you posted 
("bvb.mus") is not the same as the actual file name on the ("BVB.MUS").


Right. I should have posted a link to the directory, not to the file.
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, February 28, 2010 1:35 pm, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> Don't you have 2008 running anymore?

Just 2007. And a non-functioning 2010.

Dennis



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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Barbara Touburg wrote:


Richard Yates wrote:

I get "Pagina niet gevonden - 404"

Can you post the whole URL?


I thought I did... :)


Almost. The URL is case sensitive, so that the file name you posted 
("bvb.mus") is not the same as the actual file name on the ("BVB.MUS").


ns
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

dc wrote:


I opened your file, but see no dashed line. Could you post a PDF 
(assuming it doesn't disappear in the printing)?


Dennis


Too bad, Dennis, it's already gone, thanks to Thomas' help!
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:


I was going to try to help, but I ran Finale 2010 for the first time, and
opening any file (yours, mine, or the default) just locks up the program.


Don't you have 2008 running anymore?


Back to doing my taxes...


Nonono, back to 2008, please...
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, February 28, 2010 12:20 pm, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> I have an old file, created in 1996, FinWin 3.06r2, which I'm updating.
> At the bottom of the first page, there is a strange dashed line I can't
> get rid of. Also, I can't find out (or remember) with which tool it was
> created.
> It's here: home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/bvb.mus.
> Any help is greatly appreciated!

I was going to try to help, but I ran Finale 2010 for the first time, and
opening any file (yours, mine, or the default) just locks up the program.

Back to doing my taxes...

Dennis



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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

Richard Yates wrote:

I get "Pagina niet gevonden - 404"

Can you post the whole URL? 


I thought I did... :)

Here it is again:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/

(Please remember that I'm in the middle of a revision...)
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:

Please, never place a link in "correct" grammatical context. Periods and other 
signs will ruin the links.


Okay.


Always place links in separate lines preferably enclosed in <> brackets.


Like this:



On your Finale related matter: 


Opening the file in the newest version and Choosing the selection tool should 
give you access to any element for moving or deleting them.


That's my problem. FinWin2010 won't work on this machine, I don't know why.


Your link didn’t work anyway.


It should work, I tested it.

Barbara
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Re: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Please, never place a link in "correct" grammatical context. Periods and other 
signs will ruin the links.

Always place links in separate lines preferably enclosed in <> brackets.

On your Finale related matter: 

Opening the file in the newest version and Choosing the selection tool should 
give you access to any element for moving or deleting them.

Your link didn’t work anyway.

Klaus

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Barbara Touburg  wrote:

> From: Barbara Touburg 
> Subject: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line
> To: "Finale" 
> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 6:20 PM
> Hello wisdom,
> 
> I have an old file, created in 1996, FinWin 3.06r2, which
> I'm updating. At the bottom of the first page, there is a
> strange dashed line I can't get rid of. Also, I can't find
> out (or remember) with which tool it was created.
> It's here: home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/bvb.mus.
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> (F.y.i.: a viola ingrandita is a viola with a fifth string,
> there's only one instrument, in Amsterdam.)
> 
> Thanks!
> Barbara
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RE: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Richard Yates
I got the file but it is in a later version than my 2007.  

> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu 
> [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Touburg
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:20 AM
> To: Finale
> Subject: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line
> 
> Hello wisdom,
> 
> I have an old file, created in 1996, FinWin 3.06r2, which I'm 
> updating. 
> At the bottom of the first page, there is a strange dashed 
> line I can't get rid of. Also, I can't find out (or remember) 
> with which tool it was created.
> It's here: home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/bvb.mus.
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> (F.y.i.: a viola ingrandita is a viola with a fifth string, 
> there's only one instrument, in Amsterdam.)
> 
> Thanks!
> Barbara
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RE: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Richard Yates
I get "Pagina niet gevonden - 404"

Can you post the whole URL? 

> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu 
> [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Touburg
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:20 AM
> To: Finale
> Subject: [Finale] Help with strange dashed line
> 
> Hello wisdom,
> 
> I have an old file, created in 1996, FinWin 3.06r2, which I'm 
> updating. 
> At the bottom of the first page, there is a strange dashed 
> line I can't get rid of. Also, I can't find out (or remember) 
> with which tool it was created.
> It's here: home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/bvb.mus.
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> (F.y.i.: a viola ingrandita is a viola with a fifth string, 
> there's only one instrument, in Amsterdam.)
> 
> Thanks!
> Barbara
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[Finale] Help with strange dashed line

2010-02-28 Thread Barbara Touburg

Hello wisdom,

I have an old file, created in 1996, FinWin 3.06r2, which I'm updating. 
At the bottom of the first page, there is a strange dashed line I can't 
get rid of. Also, I can't find out (or remember) with which tool it was 
created.

It's here: home.wanadoo.nl/btouburg/finale/bvb.mus.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
(F.y.i.: a viola ingrandita is a viola with a fifth string, there's only 
one instrument, in Amsterdam.)


Thanks!
Barbara
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Re: [Finale] WinFin2010 questions about capo chords

2010-02-28 Thread kaub001
Regarding the G chord capoing to a "Gb" chord: I did a strange thing, and it 
seemed to work. The actual chord in the piece is Gm; I opened the chord def 
dialog, then typed in the cap at 1 fret as usual, then I changed the chord name 
at the top from Gm to F##m and it seemed to work! Even more interesting, when I 
re-open the chord definition, it still shows Gm as the original chord name.




 kaub...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: 
> I am attempting to make a sheet with both capo and non-capo chords. I have 
> set up a standard staff for notes and lyrics. This staff has the 
> non-transposed, non-capo chords. I have a second staff in which I hide 
> everything except the chords, and I copied the chords only from the first 
> staff to this staff. So far, so good.
> 
> (1) I know how to set the capo chord per individual chord using the Chord 
> Definition dialog box. Is there some sort of way of setting ALL the chords to 
> capo at, say, fret 1? I really can't imagine why I have to do it one chord at 
> a time. I thought there would be a way of saying that a whole staff would be 
> transposed. I tried that using Staff Attributes in Staff Transpositions, and 
> nothing happened. For some reason, the chords don't change with the 
> transposition. I also tried using the transpose under utilities, and same 
> thing: no effect on the chords. So, I'm back to setting the capo at fret 1 
> for all the chords - one-by-one. Very tedious.
> (2) I am capo-ing 1 fret, so the key sig essentially (for the guitarist, 
> anyway) goes from Eb to D. However, when I check the capo at one fret for a G 
> chord, it seems to want to transpose this to a Gb chord. In the key of D, 
> shouldn't it change to F#? Is there a way I can force this? I've tried 
> messing with "simplify key sigs" on other dialogs even though I didn't think 
> it would work, and it still didn't do anything.
> 
> I've just put up with a Tsunami alert in Hawaii. It's late at night, and I'm 
> proably not thinking straight anyway. Any ideas?
> 
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[Finale] WinFin2010 questions about capo chords

2010-02-28 Thread kaub001
I am attempting to make a sheet with both capo and non-capo chords. I have set 
up a standard staff for notes and lyrics. This staff has the non-transposed, 
non-capo chords. I have a second staff in which I hide everything except the 
chords, and I copied the chords only from the first staff to this staff. So 
far, so good.

(1) I know how to set the capo chord per individual chord using the Chord 
Definition dialog box. Is there some sort of way of setting ALL the chords to 
capo at, say, fret 1? I really can't imagine why I have to do it one chord at a 
time. I thought there would be a way of saying that a whole staff would be 
transposed. I tried that using Staff Attributes in Staff Transpositions, and 
nothing happened. For some reason, the chords don't change with the 
transposition. I also tried using the transpose under utilities, and same 
thing: no effect on the chords. So, I'm back to setting the capo at fret 1 for 
all the chords - one-by-one. Very tedious.
(2) I am capo-ing 1 fret, so the key sig essentially (for the guitarist, 
anyway) goes from Eb to D. However, when I check the capo at one fret for a G 
chord, it seems to want to transpose this to a Gb chord. In the key of D, 
shouldn't it change to F#? Is there a way I can force this? I've tried messing 
with "simplify key sigs" on other dialogs even though I didn't think it would 
work, and it still didn't do anything.

I've just put up with a Tsunami alert in Hawaii. It's late at night, and I'm 
proably not thinking straight anyway. Any ideas?

TIA
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