[Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then again I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand. I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching files in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone in a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it. I do know of several music reading apps for the iPad -- MusicReader needs a PC or Mac to convert the PDF files into native file format but there's a free iPad app to read the files on the iPad. I've purchased the Windows version and am very impressed with the capabilities. The other one I've found, ForScore, will work directly with PDF files of the music but otherwise seems a bit less capable than MusicReader. I would welcome comments from anybody using either or both of these. Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable? Thanks for any/all comments about either device as a replacement for paper music. And many apologies if this has been discussed before on this list and I've just missed it -- I tend to miss a lot these days ;-). -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I tried the with a simple PDF reader called CloudReader for a conduction seminar. Obviously this gave me no way to add eyeglasses or what have you. I would rate the experience as B-, and if I do it again I'll go ahead and print out the materials. A big issue is how fast the pages turn. I chose CloudReader because all the reviews stated that page turning was speedy, and it is. The only issue is that in the heat of the moment, a gesture meant to turn a page could accidentally turn more than one page or change the zoom level, and then I was essentially no longer using the thing until I stopped the group and re-oriented it. Another problem for me in the seminar was simply finding the exercises. The file names did not match the piece names. When you are using paper you look at the titles, but Cloudreader does have quick way to browse by first page. This is a problem specific to Cloudreader, but it is definitely something to consider when you evaluate whatever software you intend to use. Also, I find the small screen to be really annoying, but ymmv. I would not want to be dependent on this setup as a player. Conductors don't usually make sounds that are part of the music, so they can recover or fake it without the audience noticing anything. But it's different for a player. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:09 AM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then again I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand. I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching files in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone in a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it. I do know of several music reading apps for the iPad -- MusicReader needs a PC or Mac to convert the PDF files into native file format but there's a free iPad app to read the files on the iPad. I've purchased the Windows version and am very impressed with the capabilities. The other one I've found, ForScore, will work directly with PDF files of the music but otherwise seems a bit less capable than MusicReader. I would welcome comments from anybody using either or both of these. Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable? Thanks for any/all comments about either device as a replacement for paper music. And many apologies if this has been discussed before on this list and I've just missed it -- I tend to miss a lot these days ;-). -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
I've owned a MusicPad Pro for the past 7 years and have been very happy with
it. Rumors suggest that the company is no longer developing the unit, so
what we have now is probably all we'll ever have from that company - just a
rumor. The unit uses a thumb drive to store music in its proprietary format.
I have a 1 gig memory stick and have over 3,000 (maybe 4,000) titles. I can
access them and search via the system's very good 'browse collection'
feature. I can also put songs into playlists that allow me to touch the
right side of the screen (or press a foot pedal) and it automatically loads
in the next song. Repeats can be programmed in very easily. You can also
make notations on the screen in various ways, including text. Any graphic
image or pdf file can be converted to freehand format and the company sells
more music than one could play in one's lifetime that is in freehand format.
I personally find converting Finale files to freehand results in less disk
usage than using scans from a scanner or pdf files. I can't say that there
is much about it I don't like. Some minor enhancements to how one finds and
organizes files would be nice.
I think it was on a Reaper DAW format where I heard some people saying that
they were having success using the iPad to view PDF files of music with
success. I've not seen an iPad.
James Gilbert
www.jamesgilbertmusic.com
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To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then
again
I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I
would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand.
I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also
considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen
size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching
files
in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some
discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm
a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone
in
a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it.
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Dear David, I have seen no discussion of this, but one is certainly due. iPad size is an issue for me. I don't like a music stand right in my face, and the iPad does need to be closer than the 9.5 x 12.5 parts I print. I have seen a player here in Portland use one for reading lead sheets and, for that limited purpose, I think it is a handy and effective solution - no light problem in dark clubs and a large repertoire easily available. But that kind of reading is limited compared to having to take in the details in some ensemble parts, and I'm not yet convinced about its usefulness in that role. I'm eager to hear more from anyone with experience with electronic music stands. Someday they will work, I'm convinced of that. Chuck On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:09 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then again I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand. I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching files in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone in a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it. I do know of several music reading apps for the iPad -- MusicReader needs a PC or Mac to convert the PDF files into native file format but there's a free iPad app to read the files on the iPad. I've purchased the Windows version and am very impressed with the capabilities. The other one I've found, ForScore, will work directly with PDF files of the music but otherwise seems a bit less capable than MusicReader. I would welcome comments from anybody using either or both of these. Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable? Thanks for any/all comments about either device as a replacement for paper music. And many apologies if this has been discussed before on this list and I've just missed it -- I tend to miss a lot these days ;-). -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
What happens with a multi-page part when there is a DC al coda?
Chuck
On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:13 AM, James Gilbert wrote:
I've owned a MusicPad Pro for the past 7 years and have been very happy with
it. Rumors suggest that the company is no longer developing the unit, so
what we have now is probably all we'll ever have from that company - just a
rumor. The unit uses a thumb drive to store music in its proprietary format.
I have a 1 gig memory stick and have over 3,000 (maybe 4,000) titles. I can
access them and search via the system's very good 'browse collection'
feature. I can also put songs into playlists that allow me to touch the
right side of the screen (or press a foot pedal) and it automatically loads
in the next song. Repeats can be programmed in very easily. You can also
make notations on the screen in various ways, including text. Any graphic
image or pdf file can be converted to freehand format and the company sells
more music than one could play in one's lifetime that is in freehand format.
I personally find converting Finale files to freehand results in less disk
usage than using scans from a scanner or pdf files. I can't say that there
is much about it I don't like. Some minor enhancements to how one finds and
organizes files would be nice.
I think it was on a Reaper DAW format where I heard some people saying that
they were having success using the iPad to view PDF files of music with
success. I've not seen an iPad.
James Gilbert
www.jamesgilbertmusic.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:09 AM
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Subject: [Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then
again
I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I
would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand.
I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also
considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen
size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching
files
in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some
discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm
a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone
in
a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it.
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It works perfect as a music display. Ive been scanning books and converting all kinds of stuff into PDF format for it. Now I just need to get the page turning foot pedal thing and I'll be set. Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:31 AM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then again I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand. I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching files in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone in a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it. I do know of several music reading apps for the iPad -- MusicReader needs a PC or Mac to convert the PDF files into native file format but there's a free iPad app to read the files on the iPad. I've purchased the Windows version and am very impressed with the capabilities. The other one I've found, ForScore, will work directly with PDF files of the music but otherwise seems a bit less capable than MusicReader. I would welcome comments from anybody using either or both of these. Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable? Thanks for any/all comments about either device as a replacement for paper music. And many apologies if this has been discussed before on this list and I've just missed it -- I tend to miss a lot these days ;-). -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
Hi all After 30 years of supporting Apple via ownership of MAC computers it is clear they no longer need me to survive. So I am switching to PC. I notice that the DELL Studio XPS 8100 series is selling rather cheaply. Any advice appreciated. Jerry Gerald Berg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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This is stupid. Why settle for something cheap like a Dell? Plus all of your software you'd have to buy again.and then there are Microsoft taxes like virus protection programs and stuff. And apple has some of the top rated laptop tops and desktops on the market. Switching makes no sense Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:17 AM, GERALD BERG gj.b...@rogers.com wrote: Hi all After 30 years of supporting Apple via ownership of MAC computers it is clear they no longer need me to survive. So I am switching to PC. I notice that the DELL Studio XPS 8100 series is selling rather cheaply. Any advice appreciated. Jerry Gerald Berg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 12/8/2010 10:49 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: What happens with a multi-page part when there is a DC al coda? I've been investigating the music-reading apps and MusicReader has a PC component which creates the native-format files to be loaded to the iPad (or used on the PC) and you can tell it the page order, so if the DC is at the end of page 4, you can then set page 1 to be the next page again, and after page 3 (assuming the al coda sign is on that page) you can define the next page to be page 5, so that simple forward page turns will take you through the correct road map for the piece. And there are several different foot-switch devices, one cabled which will supposedly be available later this month and one which is blue-tooth, so you don't even have to take your hands off your instrument for the page turns. After the responses I've gotten on this list and several others, I know there's an iPad in my immediate future. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 12/8/2010 12:05 PM, GERALD BERG wrote: Hi all After 30 years of supporting Apple via ownership of MAC computers it is clear they no longer need me to survive. So I am switching to PC. I notice that the DELL Studio XPS 8100 series is selling rather cheaply. Any advice appreciated. My advice is to buy just a bit more technology than you think you can afford because before long you'll wish you had it. Which means, in my opinion, at least an Intel i5 or i7 processor and lots of ram and at least one 1-terrabyte drive. Which will not likely be described as selling rather cheaply. I've not got a lot of faith in Dell products based on issues friends of mine have had with their Dell computers and we bought my son one way back in high school, mainly because it was selling rather cheaply and we needed to upgrade the video card immediately and the unit lasted us only a couple of years before the motherboard died. As opposed to the former ads exclaiming It's a Dell, Dude! as if it were a good thing, I would say It's a Dell, Dude, run, run run away! The best advice is to ask around among your PC friends and look at their computers and discuss their issues and such and try to get some hands-on experience before buying. but definitely don't buy on price alone -- get some believable references before buying. for example, everybody in my family has an HP laptop (different models every one) and we love them and have had no problems with them, yet members of lists online that I belong to have cursed HP laptops up and down and sideways as being pieces of crap. So until you can see something in action that you might buy and talk in person with people who own them, hold off a bit. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
Referring to the Musicpad pro. Just program the repeat. You can put the music in whatever order you want. When you tap the right side (or use foot pedal) to turn the page it goes to whatever page you've programmed it to. Very handy. Works great with all types of dc, ds, codas, repeats. You can also turn the programmed repeats off and go in the order the piece of music is in. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:50 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand What happens with a multi-page part when there is a DC al coda? Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 8 Dec 2010 at 9:27, Eric Dannewitz wrote: This is stupid. Why settle for something cheap like a Dell? The line of computers that was cited is not a low-end product. In fact, it's one of the best lines Dell sells. Also, Dell computers have a reputation for being cheap, but that's because Dell has large enough volume that it can price them low. I have been recommending Dell computers exclusively to my clients (for desktops -- I recommend ThinkPads for laptops) for nearly 15 years and nobody has been unhappy. The quality is as good or better than any of the premium brands have ever been (and I don't think there's such a thing as a premium PC brand any longer -- everybody's producing commodity hardware). I say this from experience supporting these computers over the long haul, and continue to recommend their hardware. Plus all of your software you'd have to buy again.and then there are Microsoft taxes like virus protection programs and stuff. In regard to the virus tax Microsoft's own product, Microsoft Security Essentials (which is free) is sufficient to protect any Windows PC, and it has a low CPU footprint (unlike most of the 3rd- party AV software). I believe the whole AV racket is a scam. While the threats are very real, the AV software makers purposely choose not to make their software as good as it could be, and run by default in marketing mode (i.e., it's very intrusive and you see it all the time, even though it's usually not really doing anything). Most threats nowadays are browser-based, in any event, and this is true for any OS. With Vista/Win7, you're no more at risk from those than you would be on OS X/Linux, because current versions of Windows run applications in a security context by default that can't do permanent damage to your system (or, can do the same damage any non- admin program can do, as with OS X and Linux). And apple has some of the top rated laptop tops and desktops on the market. I would love to use Apple hardware if they allowed me to install an OS that I could use. Switching makes no sense Perhaps not for you, but others may feel differently. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:49 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: In regard to the virus tax Microsoft's own product, Microsoft Security Essentials (which is free) is sufficient to protect any Windows PC, and it has a low CPU footprint (unlike most of the 3rd- party AV software). I believe the whole AV racket is a scam. While the threats are very real, the AV software makers purposely choose not to make their software as good as it could be, and run by default in marketing mode (i.e., it's very intrusive and you see it all the time, even though it's usually not really doing anything). Most threats nowadays are browser-based, in any event, and this is true for any OS. With Vista/Win7, you're no more at risk from those than you would be on OS X/Linux, because current versions of Windows run applications in a security context by default that can't do permanent damage to your system (or, can do the same damage any non- admin program can do, as with OS X and Linux). I agree. The whole Antivirus stuff is stupid. Microsoft should have, years ago, had a Security Essentials for Windows XP, Vista, and others. I would love to use Apple hardware if they allowed me to install an OS that I could use. There is absolutely NOTHING keeping you from using Apple hardware with Windows. It is very simple to install Windows over OS X.0 Perhaps not for you, but others may feel differently. If the said person has been using a Mac for years and years, they have software for that Mac. And files created on that Mac. It would make a lot more sense to get a Mac and transfer those files over and use existing software that the person already has rather than incurring the additional expense of buying new software for his new Dell. NOT Sent from my iSomething ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 8 Dec 2010 at 12:43, David H. Bailey wrote: On 12/8/2010 12:05 PM, GERALD BERG wrote: After 30 years of supporting Apple via ownership of MAC computers it is clear they no longer need me to survive. So I am switching to PC. I notice that the DELL Studio XPS 8100 series is selling rather cheaply. Any advice appreciated. My advice is to buy just a bit more technology than you think you can afford because before long you'll wish you had it. This is solid advice, and what I always recommend to clients. The main reason I do that is because I know the pain (and cost) of migrating to a new PC -- it's something that most people completely underrate, in my opinion. Which means, in my opinion, at least an Intel i5 or i7 processor That's one of the basic choices on the XPS 8100 line. and lots of ram and at least one 1-terrabyte drive. Which will not likely be described as selling rather cheaply. I'm not sure a 1TB drive is important any longer. Most of the files that take up a large amount of space can be easily stored on external drives. If USB is too slow for the amount of data you are using, it's quite inexpensive to add an external SATA card, and external SATA drives are only slightly more expensive than USB drives. I have all my clients buying these machines buy with twin drives mirrored with RAID 0. This is fairly expensive per GB of usable space in comparison to a single non-RAIDed drive, but protects you from drive failure. It's also BLAZINGLY FAST, since the controller can read data from either of the two drives. I've not got a lot of faith in Dell products based on issues friends of mine have had with their Dell computers and we bought my son one way back in high school, mainly because it was selling rather cheaply and we needed to upgrade the video card immediately and the unit lasted us only a couple of years before the motherboard died. The cheap Dell lines are cheap and not worth buying. Buying in the high end of their product lines, however, has always been a good strategy, as my clients have been doing that for nearly 15 years, and have had virtually no disappointments (except with the laptops, which I now won't recommend). [] for example, everybody in my family has an HP laptop (different models every one) and we love them and have had no problems with them, yet members of lists online that I belong to have cursed HP laptops up and down and sideways as being pieces of crap. So until you can see something in action that you might buy and talk in person with people who own them, hold off a bit. Perhaps you bought top-of-the-line models (or just under). My experience is that the cheap HP lines are just as crappy as the cheap Dell lines. I haven't had any experience with high-end HP equipment for a while, but when I did work with it, it was quite disappointing (high failure rate on all sorts of components, including hard drives and monitors), and HP support was nothing like Dell (this was a LONG time ago!). HP has changed a lot since then, having merged with many different big companies, so I'd expect their product line to be very different now. But HP always felt to me like a mini-IBM -- very bureaucratic and hard to deal with -- whereas Dell always felt responsive and easy to reach, even when the support people were in India and often not really competent (and I had to escalate up the chain to get real help). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 8 Dec 2010 at 10:57, Eric Dannewitz wrote: On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:49 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: In regard to the virus tax Microsoft's own product, Microsoft Security Essentials (which is free) is sufficient to protect any Windows PC, and it has a low CPU footprint (unlike most of the 3rd- party AV software). [] I agree. The whole Antivirus stuff is stupid. Microsoft should have, years ago, had a Security Essentials for Windows XP, Vista, and others. It was a politically difficult thing, though, as it is yet another case of MS taking over a market segment from 3rd-party vendors. At this late remove from the anti-trust suit, they seem to be getting no pushback on it, but any time sooner, it likely would have raised eyebrows and caused complaints (and possible lawsuits) from the likes of Symantec and McAfee. I would love to use Apple hardware if they allowed me to install an OS that I could use. There is absolutely NOTHING keeping you from using Apple hardware with Windows. It is very simple to install Windows over OS X.0 Er, no, it's not simple at all. Been there, done that -- not impressed with the options. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
Just as you do with a multi-page paper piano part, you flick as quickly as
possible back to the del segno, or da capo
paper or touch screen isn't that different.
On 09/12/2010, at 2:49 AM, Chuck Israels wrote:
What happens with a multi-page part when there is a DC al coda?
Chuck
On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:13 AM, James Gilbert wrote:
I've owned a MusicPad Pro for the past 7 years and have been very happy with
it. Rumors suggest that the company is no longer developing the unit, so
what we have now is probably all we'll ever have from that company - just a
rumor. The unit uses a thumb drive to store music in its proprietary format.
I have a 1 gig memory stick and have over 3,000 (maybe 4,000) titles. I can
access them and search via the system's very good 'browse collection'
feature. I can also put songs into playlists that allow me to touch the
right side of the screen (or press a foot pedal) and it automatically loads
in the next song. Repeats can be programmed in very easily. You can also
make notations on the screen in various ways, including text. Any graphic
image or pdf file can be converted to freehand format and the company sells
more music than one could play in one's lifetime that is in freehand format.
I personally find converting Finale files to freehand results in less disk
usage than using scans from a scanner or pdf files. I can't say that there
is much about it I don't like. Some minor enhancements to how one finds and
organizes files would be nice.
I think it was on a Reaper DAW format where I heard some people saying that
they were having success using the iPad to view PDF files of music with
success. I've not seen an iPad.
James Gilbert
www.jamesgilbertmusic.com
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Subject: [Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
I can't recall if this has been discussed on tpin or not (but then
again
I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night) so I thought I
would ask if anybody is using an iPad as an electronic music stand.
I've looked into the dedicated Freehand MusicPadPro but am also
considering the iPad. The good thing about the Freehand is the screen
size, but the relatively tiny memory would mean a lot of switching
files
in and out, and it's not good for anything else. Plus I've read some
discouraging comments online about where the company is heading, so I'm
a bit reluctant to purchase something where the company might be gone
in
a year or two. If anybody is using one of these, please comment on it.
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Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
On 8 Dec 2010 at 9:05, GERALD BERG wrote: I notice that the DELL Studio XPS 8100 series is selling rather cheaply. Any advice appreciated. I have clients who are very happy with these machines, and I've found them a good value. But it entirely depends on your needs. My clients followed my recommendations and bought Win7 64-bit with 8GBs of RAM. There have been a couple of really minor issues with older software, and some stumbling blocks with the new UI, but a lot more happiness than annoyance with the new features. Of the few things that have been problematic, most had nothing to do with the machines themselves, and just had to do with adjusting to migrating to a new PC (and jumping from Win 2000 to Win7!). I wouldn't hesitate to have clients buy these models again (or whatever the updated version of the same thing is). Do get 64-bit Windows and do get at least 8GBs of RAM. Other than that, you probably can't go wrong. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
On 8 Dec 2010, at 1:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: And apple has some of the top rated laptop tops and desktops on the market. I would love to use Apple hardware if they allowed me to install an OS that I could use. You can install Windows on any Mac and run it natively (i.e., not in emulation) via Boot Camp. This has been true since shortly after the switch to Intel hardware. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
On 8 Dec 2010, at 2:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: There is absolutely NOTHING keeping you from using Apple hardware with Windows. It is very simple to install Windows over OS X.0 Er, no, it's not simple at all. Been there, done that -- not impressed with the options. It's as simple as installing Windows on a PC. I'm not talking about emulation, I'm talking about Boot Camp, which is exactly the same as running Windows natively -- because that's what it is. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
Yeah, I dunno what he is talking about.there are plenty of tutorials on how to do it Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8 Dec 2010, at 2:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: There is absolutely NOTHING keeping you from using Apple hardware with Windows. It is very simple to install Windows over OS X.0 Er, no, it's not simple at all. Been there, done that -- not impressed with the options. It's as simple as installing Windows on a PC. I'm not talking about emulation, I'm talking about Boot Camp, which is exactly the same as running Windows natively -- because that's what it is. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
Sounds as if this problem is not one. When the prices come down, I'll equip my octet/nonet. I can imagine many advantages to this, but the price is prohibitive. Chuck On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:33 AM, James Gilbert wrote: Referring to the Musicpad pro. Just program the repeat. You can put the music in whatever order you want. When you tap the right side (or use foot pedal) to turn the page it goes to whatever page you've programmed it to. Very handy. Works great with all types of dc, ds, codas, repeats. You can also turn the programmed repeats off and go in the order the piece of music is in. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:50 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand What happens with a multi-page part when there is a DC al coda? Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Playback Problems (Latency) With Anything After Finale 2008v1
Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some advice about a big problem. Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram. Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program, playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and greater the delay. Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of 2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time. The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of the ASIO buffer size. The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before. But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well. I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work - any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support. If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to Mac), I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] DVD to YouTube
Hope this off-topic query is acceptable. I'm looking for a program that will convert files on a DVD to files such as .avi that I can upload to YouTube. The files are performances of students at our CONSERVATORIUM performing in scholarship concerts. All I want to do is to edit the original large .Vob files into short files to put on our YouTube site. I've tried a few programs and got very poor results. Currently trialling AVS video converter. Thanks for any help you can give. David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 09/12/2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Dutka mikedu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some advice about a big problem. Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram. Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program, playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and greater the delay. Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of 2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time. The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of the ASIO buffer size. The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before. But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well. I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work - any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support. If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to Mac), I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
Have you tried Handbrake? http://handbrake.fr/ On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:57 PM, David McKay davidmcka...@gmail.com wrote: Hope this off-topic query is acceptable. I'm looking for a program that will convert files on a DVD to files such as .avi that I can upload to YouTube. The files are performances of students at our CONSERVATORIUM performing in scholarship concerts. All I want to do is to edit the original large .Vob files into short files to put on our YouTube site. I've tried a few programs and got very poor results. Currently trialling AVS video converter. Thanks for any help you can give. David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 09/12/2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Dutka mikedu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some advice about a big problem. Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram. Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program, playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and greater the delay. Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of 2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time. The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of the ASIO buffer size. The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before. But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well. I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work - any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support. If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to Mac), I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 9 Dec 2010 at 8:57, David McKay wrote: I'm looking for a program that will convert files on a DVD to files such as .avi that I can upload to YouTube. The files are performances of students at our CONSERVATORIUM performing in scholarship concerts. All I want to do is to edit the original large .Vob files into short files to put on our YouTube site. I've tried a few programs and got very poor results. Currently trialling AVS video converter. Thanks for any help you can give. Recent experience shows me that AVI is a very poor format for anything at all. I don't know exactly which formats YouTube supports, but I use a program called Format Factory (Windows) to convert between various formats. It works great, though you usually do have to edit the default settings (which often default to something less than the best quality). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
Handbrake Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:58 PM, David McKay davidmcka...@gmail.com wrote: Hope this off-topic query is acceptable. I'm looking for a program that will convert files on a DVD to files such as .avi that I can upload to YouTube. The files are performances of students at our CONSERVATORIUM performing in scholarship concerts. All I want to do is to edit the original large .Vob files into short files to put on our YouTube site. I've tried a few programs and got very poor results. Currently trialling AVS video converter. Thanks for any help you can give. David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 09/12/2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Dutka mikedu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some advice about a big problem. Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram. Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program, playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and greater the delay. Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of 2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time. The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of the ASIO buffer size. The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before. But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well. I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work - any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support. If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to Mac), I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 12/8/2010 5:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Recent experience shows me that AVI is a very poor format for anything at all. How do you mean? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
Date: December 8, 2010 9:09:09 AM EST
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or
correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable?
I've been using my iPad and ForScore as a music stand for playing trumpet and
have had no problems. (I say stand, but it's actually not-- you still need a
music stand to set the iPad on.) It's a little smaller than a typical printed
sheet, but it's certainly still easily readable and turning pages, etc. is a
breeze.___
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Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
I have tried Handbrake. I am guessing that I need more information on how to use it. It took over 6 hours to convert a DVD to mp4 and then the file which it created was 2gigs and crashed Windows Explorer. David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 09/12/2010, at 9:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Handbrake Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:58 PM, David McKay davidmcka...@gmail.com wrote: Hope this off-topic query is acceptable. I'm looking for a program that will convert files on a DVD to files such as .avi that I can upload to YouTube. The files are performances of students at our CONSERVATORIUM performing in scholarship concerts. All I want to do is to edit the original large .Vob files into short files to put on our YouTube site. I've tried a few programs and got very poor results. Currently trialling AVS video converter. Thanks for any help you can give. David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 09/12/2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Dutka mikedu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some advice about a big problem. Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram. Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program, playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and greater the delay. Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of 2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time. The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of the ASIO buffer size. The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before. But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well. I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work - any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support. If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to Mac), I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iPad as electronic music stand
You know there is a clip thing for a microphone stand that you should look into
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/iklip/features/
On Dec 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Blake Richardson wrote:
On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
Date: December 8, 2010 9:09:09 AM EST
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] {Spam} iPad as electronic music stand
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
Is the iPad screen really too small, assuming one has good eyesight (or
correctable to 20/20 with glasses) or is it manageable?
I've been using my iPad and ForScore as a music stand for playing trumpet
and have had no problems. (I say stand, but it's actually not-- you still
need a music stand to set the iPad on.) It's a little smaller than a typical
printed sheet, but it's certainly still easily readable and turning pages,
etc. is a breeze.___
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Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
Handbrake's speed depends on your computer's speed. And the settings you have it at. I generally set Handbrake to convert things into Universal Apple format, but you might want to check what Youtube recommends.. You can download the latest builds of it here https://build.handbrake.fr/ If you had a Mac, it would be pretty much a no brain thing, you'd rip the movie using Handbrake, and dump it into iMovie and have iMovie upload it for you.but I see you have Windows so.I don't know what would work for you other than Handbrake. On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:12 PM, David McKay wrote: I have tried Handbrake. I am guessing that I need more information on how to use it. It took over 6 hours to convert a DVD to mp4 and then the file which it created was 2gigs and crashed Windows Explorer. David McKay Sent from my iPhone ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 12/8/2010 6:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't know what would work for you other than Handbrake. I use Handbrake all the time on Windows with no problem. Note that if you're ripping a commercial DVD, you also need something to remove the encryption, which Handbrake will not do for you. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
Well, he had two questions. How to rip stuff into avi format and then upload to YouTube. I'd also agree with previous statements that avi is a dead end for video, and that mp4 format is better all around. I just don't know exactly how YouTube handles files as I generally do everything through iMovie Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 12/8/2010 6:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't know what would work for you other than Handbrake. I use Handbrake all the time on Windows with no problem. Note that if you're ripping a commercial DVD, you also need something to remove the encryption, which Handbrake will not do for you. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
I am grateful for all the suggestions. Thanks! I discovered that one of my problems seems to be caused by a compatibility issue with Windows Movie Maker. I was getting the sound OK, but a scrambled screen at the top and a big green block below. I followed the suggestions here: http://www.vatofknow.com/archives/112 which seems to have solved the problem. So the original free program I used seems to have worked fine... David McKay On 9 December 2010 12:53, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Well, he had two questions. How to rip stuff into avi format and then upload to YouTube. I'd also agree with previous statements that avi is a dead end for video, and that mp4 format is better all around. I just don't know exactly how YouTube handles files as I generally do everything through iMovie Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 12/8/2010 6:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't know what would work for you other than Handbrake. I use Handbrake all the time on Windows with no problem. Note that if you're ripping a commercial DVD, you also need something to remove the encryption, which Handbrake will not do for you. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- www.mitchellcon.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 12/8/2010 8:53 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Well, he had two questions. How to rip stuff into avi format and then upload to YouTube. I'd also agree with previous statements that avi is a dead end for video, and that mp4 format is better all around. Well, AVI is just a container format, not an encoding format. You can have a low quality video contained in an AVI file or a high quality one. I believe it's true that the AVI container does not work well with H.264/AVC, which is currently the hot codec, but I've got lots of good AVIs with high-bitrate videos encoded with DivX/Xvid, and they look great. Technically, MP4 is also just a container format, not a codec, although for most people it's synonymous with the H.264/AVC codec. It's possible to have an MP4 file which contains crappy video. Also, I think the AVI container continues to have a higher penetration because Windows Media Player can play an AVI but cannot play an MP4. There are, of course, plenty of free Windows players that do play MP4s, but they don't usually come pre-installed on Windows. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 8 Dec 2010 at 17:27, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 12/8/2010 5:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Recent experience shows me that AVI is a very poor format for anything at all. How do you mean? It's difficult to get a reasonable file size with decent video and audio quality. I wouldn't use AVI for anything unless forced to do so. For comparison: The same video in AVI format was 250MBs, while in MPG, 60MBs, MP4, 25MBs, and so forth. This is all with the same video quality and higher audio quality in the MPG and MP4 formats. FLV at full size and highest audio quality was 15MBs. I don't use YouTube, so don't know what they require, but Facebook has no trouble with any of the formats I throw at it, for instance. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] DVD to YouTube
On 8 Dec 2010 at 21:38, Aaron Sherber wrote: Also, I think the AVI container continues to have a higher penetration because Windows Media Player can play an AVI but cannot play an MP4. There are, of course, plenty of free Windows players that do play MP4s, but they don't usually come pre-installed on Windows. You're mistaken, Aaron. Windows Media Player plays MP4 -- I just tried it (WinXP SP3 -- can't tell what version of WMP I have, as it has a nonstandard UI that doesn't have an ABOUT box anywhere I can find). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend?
Much appreciated all . Jerry Gerald Berg From: Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 3:32:00 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Help: Computer recommend? Yeah, I dunno what he is talking about.there are plenty of tutorials on how to do it Sent from my iSomething On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8 Dec 2010, at 2:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: There is absolutely NOTHING keeping you from using Apple hardware with Windows. It is very simple to install Windows over OS X.0 Er, no, it's not simple at all. Been there, done that -- not impressed with the options. It's as simple as installing Windows on a PC. I'm not talking about emulation, I'm talking about Boot Camp, which is exactly the same as running Windows natively -- because that's what it is. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
