Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012
Even if Finale now has Unicode support, this doesn't mean that ligatures should work. Automatic ligatures would require a certain level of *OpenType* support. Looks like you'd have to encode them and then access them directly. On 19 September 2012 06:23, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.comwrote: i am designing a font (open type) containing characters for durations and to be used for tempo indications and time sigs and am trying to get ligatures to work. for example, when i type 2 flagged sixteenth notes directly after one another, 2 beamed 16ths result. as i understand, this should in fact work, since finale now has unicode support? the ligature i created works in the font design programme but not in finale or in iWork's pages. in both i can type the actual character the ligature is placed in and it appears correctly, but it doesn't automatically show, as it should. has anyone worked with ligatures in finale successfully? (PS i know other fonts exist, but the only one that is decent enough to be useful for me is bach, but i find it has limitations and i don't like the look of it :-). anyways, i need straight flags and the look of it has to be consistent with my other custom fonts) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] erratic cautionary accidental plugin
On 2012-09-20 02:31, Chuck Israels wrote: The most annoying is that accidentals that appeared correctly in the file now have parentheses applied to them necessitating a meticulous process of removing them - a process that is only slightly less harrowing than proof reading the file and entering the cautionary accidentals by hand. Incidentally, my plugin is set to show no parentheses even on the cautionary accidentals. I don't use the Cautionary Accidentals plug-in myself, but if you want to remove all the parentheses from your accidentals, you can do that easily in the JW Change (Beta). Accidentals-Parentheses-Hide and apply on the whole document. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012
dammit that isn't the answer i wanted :-) thanks, andrew. Even if Finale now has Unicode support, this doesn't mean that ligatures should work. Automatic ligatures would require a certain level of *OpenType* support. Looks like you'd have to encode them and then access them directly. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] erratic cautionary accidental plugin
Perfect! Jari to the rescue again. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2012-09-20 02:31, Chuck Israels wrote: The most annoying is that accidentals that appeared correctly in the file now have parentheses applied to them necessitating a meticulous process of removing them - a process that is only slightly less harrowing than proof reading the file and entering the cautionary accidentals by hand. Incidentally, my plugin is set to show no parentheses even on the cautionary accidentals. I don't use the Cautionary Accidentals plug-in myself, but if you want to remove all the parentheses from your accidentals, you can do that easily in the JW Change (Beta). Accidentals-Parentheses-Hide and apply on the whole document. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012
On 19 September 2012 06:23, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.comwrote: i am designing a font (open type) containing characters for durations and to be used for tempo indications and time sigs and am trying to get ligatures to work. for example, when i type 2 flagged sixteenth notes directly after one another, 2 beamed 16ths result. Jef, please forgive my lack of understanding, but exactly what do you mean by ligatures? Do you actually mean beaming, as it seems above? Ligatures have a very specific meaning historically, originating in the earliest attempts at a non-letter notation in the 9th and 10th centuries, growing into a system of neumes, and incorporated into Guido's 11th century chant notation, and simply refer to more than one note combined into a single graphic form--something for which today we would simply use a slur. And THOSE ligatures lasted well into the 15th and 16th centuries, and in fact are still used in Gregorian chant notation. Franco of Cologne assigned them specific note values in the mid-13th century and they are easily sightread after learning his few simple rules. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hearing incoming audio
FINMAC 2012 After (cough, sputter) years of using Finale, I am just now getting into the Add Audio Track feature. I am singing into a Roland VP-7, which is a vocal designer. It makes you into a choir or adds back-up singers or…lots o' stuff. The output is going into the mic jack on my Mac. And it DOES record, I just can't hear it as it does. If I plug my headphones into the Roland, I can hear the Roland's output but not Finale's. (I am not going thru a mixer.) I poked all over the MIDI/Audio stuff---theMAc's and Finale's---but never solved it. What do I do? Richard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012
exactly what do you mean by ligatures? i was talking about building a custom font that included ligatures so that when i type 2 specific characters together, a third in fact shows, which is an alternate (and preferred) version of the combination of the two. check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature (by the way, the street signs in the German ß section is right around the corner from me :-) ... it's amazing that even in this tiny photo you get the impression of how grey and ugly berlin is) Do you actually mean beaming, as it seems above? sort of, but within a text string. i wanted to be able to type my character for a flagged 16th (for example) twice in a row and have the programme know that i want a beamed two-16th note figure and produce it, rather than having to create either a beam start and end character or a single glypohs containing the entire beamed figure. there are many reasons for me wanting this, that include managing an accessible mapping of glyphs that is complemented by the ligatures (inaccessible to the ordinary user as characters themselves, but showing when appropriate), and having greater control over the positioning of ties and dots for design consistency. Ligatures have a very specific meaning historically... yes, but i said: i am designing a font (open type) containing characters for durations and to be used for tempo indications and time sigs and am trying to get ligatures to work. for example, when i type 2 flagged sixteenth notes directly after one another, 2 beamed 16ths result. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling
Mässig is just fine. More often than not, it'll appear that way in print. But you should introduce them to 'der Eszett' so that, if they do run into it they don't think it's a 'b'. Steve Larsen -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:ry.squa...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:44 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] OT: current German spelling I know there have been some changes in German spelling conventions recently, but I'm not certain of the specifics. Is Mäßig still correct? Is Mässig incorrect? I'm trying to introduce some German terms to my younger students, but I'd rather not introduce a new letter like ß if I don't need to. Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling
Mässig is just fine. it is actually wrong, unless you are using swiss german rules More often than not, it'll appear that way in print. you would never find it that way in a german edition why not just spell it correctly and help counter the horrendous massacre of foreign words used in spoken and written english? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling
On 9/20/2012 4:57 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: Mässig is just fine. it is actually wrong, unless you are using swiss german rules More often than not, it'll appear that way in print. you would never find it that way in a german edition [snip] I have to take issue with the never find -- in a Schott edition, with the copyright bearing the the company name of B. Schott's Sohne, Mainz, of the Hindemith Trumpet Sonata, in the score it is spelled Mäßig but in the solo part it's spelled Mässig. I've seen the word most of the time engraved Mässig. So it might be wrong, but if German engravers do it you can't fault the rest of us for doing it too. ;-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hearing incoming audio
On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I poked all over the MIDI/Audio stuff---theMAc's and Finale's---but never solved it. What do I do? I haven't done this, but I'll bet you could use garage band. Dick H OlyWa ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling
So it might be wrong, but if German engravers do it you can't fault the rest of us for doing it too. ;-) mä :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
