Re: [Finale] OTF fonts not working in F2014 on yosemite
I was just struggling with the same OTF issue this week. I¹m using several really useful DVM fonts (Metronome, MetTimes, and a couple more Met- fonts) that I had installed as OTFs. Finale was good with some of the fonts, but others were described in italics as ³missing² or simply didn¹t appear in the fonts list. One suggestion from DVM, which worked, was to remove the OTF fonts, clear the fonts cache, re-start the machine, and install Truetype fonts. This gave me my fonts back, but didn¹t solve the problem with the OTF fonts. It¹s possible that if you clear the fonts cache, you might be able to re-install the OTF fonts and have them work. For me, some of the OTF fonts appeared to work normally for a bit in Finale and MSWord, and then stopped working in both, while other fonts continued to function normally. So, there might be some process that messes some fonts up, that a re-install might fix. I haven¹t yet tried re-installing the OTF fonts, so I don¹t know if it will work at all, or provide only a temporary fix,or function in the longer term. With regard to the text tool and fonts list within it, it would be great if Finale might finally use command-T to show the Mac Fonts tool and allow us to use fonts that we have organized into useful groups, as in so many other Mac apps. Having to scroll down the entire list of fonts to get to something that begins with ³S is a real painŠ Geoff On 2015-01-23, 11:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Send Finale mailing list submissions to finale@shsu.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to finale-requ...@shsu.edu You can reach the person managing the list at finale-ow...@shsu.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Finale digest... Today's Topics: 1. OTF not working in F2014 on yosemite (SN jef chippewa) 2. Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests (Craig Parmerlee) 3. Re: Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests (Robert Patterson) 4. Re: Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests (SN jef chippewa) 5. Re: Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests (Chuck Israels) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 02:09:03 +0100 From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com Subject: [Finale] OTF not working in F2014 on yosemite To: finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: p06240825d0e74d36868d@[192.168.1.29] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed trying to sort out a problem with custom fonts that seems to be a known problem in yosemite when using open type fonts. some users encounter it in some applications, some don't. the fonts work fine on yosemite in MS Word but not in finale. work fine on earlier systems and on PC. anyone familiar with this and have any solutions? here is the geeky stuff: - fonts are indeed 1000 UPM (otherwise *sometimes* causes problems) - defined as family (neueweise, with 3 styles that are my custom fonts) - problem encountered only on yosemite (OS X.10) thanks! jef -- NEW!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation shirling neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + translation + arts management [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:06:13 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com Subject: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests To: Finale News List finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: 54c26365.90...@parmerlee.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue)
[Finale] 2014
Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
For long periods of the same rhythm I use slashes, 8 bars a line or whatever is structurally relevant, structural clues with thick barlines, big numbers at end of line (in brackets) to indicate how many bars have passed. Steve P. On 23 Jan 2015, at 15:06, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue) marking attempts to clarify that, but I wonder how others deal with this. I think what I'd really like is two different visual styles of MM rest -- one for playing and one for resting. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014
Try Preferences: Edit: Respect Instrument Ranges ?? Steve P. On 23 Jan 2015, at 19:29, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
Thanks Geoff. That is essentially the solution I stumbled on before I saw your response. I take you point about the possibility of making pencil marks mid-section, but if there are important punches, I try to indicate them anyway. I'm not sure I have seen a drummer with a pencil recently. :) But seriously, most of the drummers I play with use their ears a lot more than their eyes, so I try to give them what is most comfortable. On 1/23/2015 1:43 PM, Whittall, Geoff wrote: As a player, my preference would be to see single repeat marks in bars instead of rests (staff style O). In addition to Jef¹s suggestion, another option is to create a multi measure rest. Then select the measure and apply the staff style to it. I created expressions for 6X (for an 8-bar phrase, one example bar and a closing bar with indicated fill) and 7X (for an 8-bar phrase, no closing fill) which I place over the measures I grouped in the rest. While this adds steps to creating the rest, the repeats are expected elements in a drum part, while rests that a drummer is supposed to play through, are not. In agreement with Jef¹s suggestion (which I also use), having the bars written out across the system allows the drummer to easily put their own marks/cues/etc. into the music. Just my two bits, Geoff ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014
Under PreferencesEdit, there is something new in 2012 called Respect Instruments Ranges when Copying or Changing Instruments. I of course immediately turned this OFF, as I know very well what octave I want things in, thank you! This might be active by default in 2014 and change octaves in the target staff even when copying items that are not notes. This is ridiculous programming, of course. This is as bad as Microsoft Word changing my Canadian spellings to American ones, and I don't even have an option to load a Canadian dictionary! Christopher On Fri Jan 23, at FridayJan 23 2:29 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014
Look at Edit-Preferences. There is an option for Respect instrument ranges when copying. This may be your problem. I always leave that turned off because it seems too helpful, if you know what I mean. On 1/23/2015 2:29 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
As a player, my preference would be to see single repeat marks in bars instead of rests (staff style O). In addition to Jef¹s suggestion, another option is to create a multi measure rest. Then select the measure and apply the staff style to it. I created expressions for 6X (for an 8-bar phrase, one example bar and a closing bar with indicated fill) and 7X (for an 8-bar phrase, no closing fill) which I place over the measures I grouped in the rest. While this adds steps to creating the rest, the repeats are expected elements in a drum part, while rests that a drummer is supposed to play through, are not. In agreement with Jef¹s suggestion (which I also use), having the bars written out across the system allows the drummer to easily put their own marks/cues/etc. into the music. Just my two bits, Geoff ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
I am looking at Guide to Standardized Drumset Notation by Norman Weinberg. I have found this to be a very good guide. I really dislike the slash notation or the repeat bar approach in most cases because that means the drummer has to start at the chart to count how many measures before the next break. I could help out by numbering the repeated measures, but this still results in a 4 page chart when 1 or 2 pages would do. Weinberg agrees that the MM rest style should not be used. But on page 35, he provides an example of the solution I think would be perfect in many cases. The first measure of the section is shown explicitly of course. What follows is a big measure that has no notes and bold text Play 15 Bars. And following the bold text is a squiggle line that takes you to the next double bar. That's the kind of symbology I am looking for. I should mention that I actually have the drum parts in all the measures for playback purposes and I would really prefer not to have to maintain a separate staff just for printing purposes. That is how I got to the Z staff style and MM rest. Experimenting with some of the ideas on this thread, I cloned the normal Z staff style and turned off the display of rests. It turns out that also hides MM rests. I can then create MM rests as usual and in the sections where I have applied my style, it just looks like one wide empty measure. I can then add an expression for Play xx Bars. I'll have to do that final editing in the linked part, but that won't be too bad. Usually there will only be about 8 of these markings in an arrangement, and most often they will be either 7 or 15 bars. I'm not sure I want to deal with the squiggle line. The text should be adequate, especially if it put in in an opaque enclosure and overlay it on the staff itself. Thanks, everybody, for the ideas. On 1/23/2015 10:11 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: This may be a pain, but what I might do is (after creating the multimeasure rest), enter a note orrest in the first bar of it. (It can be a hidden.) That causes the multimeas rest to disappear and you can then make it look however you like. I do this for TACET passages where I don't want to show the number of bars rest. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue) marking attempts to clarify that, but I wonder how others deal with this. I think what I'd really like is two different visual styles of MM rest -- one for playing and one for resting. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014
I don't think it is a terrible feature, but it should absolutely be an option, not the default. On Jan 23, 2015 3:53 PM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Steve, Christopher and Craig--too helpful, indeed. I remember seeing that option when I was going through the preferences and just thought it would color-code noteheads or something. Had no idea it would move notes around, especially I wasn't copying notes. - Don On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: Look at Edit-Preferences. There is an option for Respect instrument ranges when copying. This may be your problem. I always leave that turned off because it seems too helpful, if you know what I mean. On 1/23/2015 2:29 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014
Thanks, Steve, Christopher and Craig--too helpful, indeed. I remember seeing that option when I was going through the preferences and just thought it would color-code noteheads or something. Had no idea it would move notes around, especially I wasn't copying notes. - Don On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: Look at Edit-Preferences. There is an option for Respect instrument ranges when copying. This may be your problem. I always leave that turned off because it seems too helpful, if you know what I mean. On 1/23/2015 2:29 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi Everyone--Happy New Year, Got to the end of a bigger project and like a few others on this list, decided to break out 2014 (10.9.5 on a MacBook Air). I thought converting a string quintet arrangement to string orchestra would be a good job to figure out newer aspects of the program but not get in too deep while I'm checking things out. A lot of things went as expected or better, but I thought I'd bring up a problem I experienced. I often enter hairpins in one line for a section of music and copy them from that line into other parts. Last night when I was doing this, Finale randomly lowered the music that was receiving the hairpins an octave--in other words, most lines were OK, but some inexplicably wound up transposed down an octave. Only thing checked in the Edit Filter window was Smart Shapes (Assigned to Beats), which was as close as I could get to the Smart Shapes (Assigned to Measures) that I used tor this purpose in 2011. Haven't noticed this being brought up here--has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
On 1/23/2015 7:06 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue) marking attempts to clarify that, but I wonder how others deal with this. I think what I'd really like is two different visual styles of MM rest -- one for playing and one for resting. When I was in Louie Bellson's band, I talked to him a few times about this, as I was already interested in doing this kind of work (I'd paid some of my bills in college doing copy work by hand), and wanted to know what a real big band drummer wanted. He told me in no uncertain terms that less is more. Start the chart with a marking telling what the foundation is - SWING q = 120 is all you need. Slash notation, marked TIME when there are long periods of playing time. Hits you have various horns doing something specific in standard notes (not slash) either in the space above the staff, or on the first space if that really works better for bass drum kicks. If there are measures out, use rests. For fills, mark the measures/beats FILL. For more specific fills (descending tom patterns, etc) rough in the basics, but not every friggin' note. The more specific you are, the more the drummer will ignore you. Just give him the bones and let him flesh it out. Most of the drummers I have worked with in the 30 years since, agree. cd --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
This may be a pain, but what I might do is (after creating the multimeasure rest), enter a note orrest in the first bar of it. (It can be a hidden.) That causes the multimeas rest to disappear and you can then make it look however you like. I do this for TACET passages where I don't want to show the number of bars rest. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue) marking attempts to clarify that, but I wonder how others deal with this. I think what I'd really like is two different visual styles of MM rest -- one for playing and one for resting. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
simplest solution: since it isn't a rest, don't use MM rests :-) -- that would effectively distinguish it from a MM rest. 8 measures per system (for ex.) with no text indications or whatever doesn't clutter the part. and if the band needs to start from a particular measure in such a passage, everyone who needs to play has it as a real measure. just sayin'. -- NEW!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation shirling neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + translation + arts management [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
This is my method too, for the reasons jef suggests. Chuck On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:14 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: simplest solution: since it isn't a rest, don't use MM rests :-) -- that would effectively distinguish it from a MM rest. 8 measures per system (for ex.) with no text indications or whatever doesn't clutter the part. and if the band needs to start from a particular measure in such a passage, everyone who needs to play has it as a real measure. just sayin'. -- NEW!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation shirling neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + translation + arts management [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Ideas for drum set notation - multimeasure rests
In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will typically show those measures with slash notation and write the horn rhythms in notes above the staff, letting the drummer figure out how best to play that. If there is an exact part I need played, I will show those measures. For example, there may be a particular tom-tom riff or there may be a place where drums hit on 1 and then drop out. I show all those measures explicitly. But my question is about the sections where the drummer is just carrying along. I show those as multi-measure rests and put the indication (Continue) above the MM rest. This gives a really clean, compact part and allows the drummer to play more artistically instead of trying to read a very cluttered chart. But there is an ambiguity with the MM rests. I am using the same look whether the drummer is continuing to play a pattern or whether the drums are out for a section. My (Continue) marking attempts to clarify that, but I wonder how others deal with this. I think what I'd really like is two different visual styles of MM rest -- one for playing and one for resting. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
