Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread Bruce Kau
(1) What folder is it in?

(2) (probably more likely) what is the file extension? Is it a .mus or a 
.musx?


On 4/30/2017 11:05 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote:
> Refreshing the files, restarting Finale, ensuring the parameters for the
> folder are set have had no effect and the files are not in the SYSTEM32
> folder.
> But I have now gone through everything and restarted Finale several
> times suddenly, the folder has reappeared.  I do not know which action
> fixed it.  One thing might point at the problem, although I have 2014.5
> installed, I have noticed that when I open a file via Window Explorer,
> it actually opens up FInale 2014d.  Even when I try to force the file to
> open with 2014.5, it still opens with 2014d.
> Thanks for the help; it seems to be working at the moment.
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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread Michael Lawlor
Refreshing the files, restarting Finale, ensuring the parameters for the 
folder are set have had no effect and the files are not in the SYSTEM32 
folder.
But I have now gone through everything and restarted Finale several 
times suddenly, the folder has reappeared.  I do not know which action 
fixed it.  One thing might point at the problem, although I have 2014.5 
installed, I have noticed that when I open a file via Window Explorer, 
it actually opens up FInale 2014d.  Even when I try to force the file to 
open with 2014.5, it still opens with 2014d.
Thanks for the help; it seems to be working at the moment.
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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/30/2017 9:01 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> On Sun, April 30, 2017 8:54 am, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> There is a setting in Windows Explorer (which is where programs get the
>> info for their file open/save dialogs) to show or hide system folders
>> and files.  This can be changed so that they can be seen.
>
> This does NOT work for these files. The system32 directory seems to be
> unusually privileged so that Finale files (and perhaps other user data files)
> cannot be seen there inside the usual explorer window. The first time I
> encountered it, I opened explorer (which is set to show everything) and the
> files were absent from system32.
>
> These files DO appear in the open dialog, however, where drag-and-drop is
> normal. They also DO appear in the command window.
>
> I've yet to figure out this behavior, which in my experience has only happened
> with Finale's recent versions.
>

Wow -- you're right, and I stand corrected.

I just did a test whereby I copied a .mus file into the system32 folder, 
and it shows up just fine in Windows Explorer but it does not show in 
the File/Open dialog in Finale 2014.5.

I just ran another test and I saved a file from within Finale to the 
System32 folder and it does not show up in Explorer but it does show up 
in the Finale File/Open dialog.

I just ran yet another test saving as a .mus instead of a .musx and the 
same behavior is exhibited.

So the behavior is exactly opposite from each other depending on whether 
there is a Finale file copied into the System32 folder using Windows 
Explorer or whether it is saved into the System32 from within Finale.

That is very bizarre -- yet another example of the developers of Finale 
not quite spending enough time (for whatever reason -- it may not be 
their fault) to make sure this all works together properly.  As to why 
Finale would randomly put files into that folder, that's anybody's guess 
and while the file displaying issue may be partly Microsoft's fault, 
having Finale randomly change folders to save files into, going contrary 
to the Folders settings in Preferences is entirely the Finale 
developers' fault.






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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, April 30, 2017 8:54 am, David H. Bailey wrote:
> There is a setting in Windows Explorer (which is where programs get the
> info for their file open/save dialogs) to show or hide system folders
> and files.  This can be changed so that they can be seen.

This does NOT work for these files. The system32 directory seems to be
unusually privileged so that Finale files (and perhaps other user data files)
cannot be seen there inside the usual explorer window. The first time I
encountered it, I opened explorer (which is set to show everything) and the
files were absent from system32.

These files DO appear in the open dialog, however, where drag-and-drop is
normal. They also DO appear in the command window.

I've yet to figure out this behavior, which in my experience has only happened
with Finale's recent versions.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread David H. Bailey

There is a setting in Windows Explorer (which is where programs get the 
info for their file open/save dialogs) to show or hide system folders 
and files.  This can be changed so that they can be seen.

in Windows 10 (can't remember where this was in previous versions of 
Windows) open Windows Explorer and click on the the word "View" to open 
the "View" ribbon and there is a checkbox beside the words "Hidden 
items" in the "Show/Hide" section of the ribbon.  Put a checkbox in that 
box next to "Hiden items" and then the system32 folder should show up in 
Windows Explorer and also in the File/Open or File/Save dialogs.

David H. Bailey


On 4/30/2017 7:40 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> On Sun, April 30, 2017 6:37 am, Michael Lawlor wrote:
>> [2014.5]
>>
>> I have a folder that I can see from Windows Explorer and can select
>> files and they open in Finale.  However, within Finale, if I try to open
>> a file, the folder is invisible.  Are there parameters I may have
>> inadvertently set that is causing this?
>
> Windows?
>
> Occasionally when I'm using Finale 2014.5, it quietly switches the file saving
> to the /windows/system32 folder, where Finale can open them but they can't
> otherwise be seen. (None of my default folders are set to this, so I'm not
> sure why it happens.)
>
> I've found the only way to fix this (aside from being careful that Finale
> doesn't do this to you in the first place) is to, during the open dialog, drag
> the files elsewhere.
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread David H. Bailey
There is a setting in Windows Explorer (which is where programs get the 
info for their file open/save dialogs) to show or hide system folders 
and files.  This can be changed so that they can be seen.

in Windows 10 (can't remember where this was in previous versions of 
Windows) open Windows Explorer and click on the the word "View" to open 
the "View" ribbon and there is a checkbox beside the words "Hidden 
items" in the "Show/Hide" section of the ribbon.  Put a checkbox in that 
box next to "Hiden items" and then the system32 folder should show up in 
Windows Explorer and also in the File/Open or File/Save dialogs.

David H. Bailey


On 4/30/2017 7:40 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> On Sun, April 30, 2017 6:37 am, Michael Lawlor wrote:
>> [2014.5]
>>
>> I have a folder that I can see from Windows Explorer and can select
>> files and they open in Finale.  However, within Finale, if I try to open
>> a file, the folder is invisible.  Are there parameters I may have
>> inadvertently set that is causing this?
>
> Windows?
>
> Occasionally when I'm using Finale 2014.5, it quietly switches the file saving
> to the /windows/system32 folder, where Finale can open them but they can't
> otherwise be seen. (None of my default folders are set to this, so I'm not
> sure why it happens.)
>
> I've found the only way to fix this (aside from being careful that Finale
> doesn't do this to you in the first place) is to, during the open dialog, drag
> the files elsewhere.
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, April 30, 2017 6:37 am, Michael Lawlor wrote:
> [2014.5]
>
> I have a folder that I can see from Windows Explorer and can select
> files and they open in Finale.  However, within Finale, if I try to open
> a file, the folder is invisible.  Are there parameters I may have
> inadvertently set that is causing this?

Windows?

Occasionally when I'm using Finale 2014.5, it quietly switches the file saving
to the /windows/system32 folder, where Finale can open them but they can't
otherwise be seen. (None of my default folders are set to this, so I'm not
sure why it happens.)

I've found the only way to fix this (aside from being careful that Finale
doesn't do this to you in the first place) is to, during the open dialog, drag
the files elsewhere.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/30/2017 6:37 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote:
> [2014.5]
>
> I have a folder that I can see from Windows Explorer and can select
> files and they open in Finale.  However, within Finale, if I try to open
> a file, the folder is invisible.  Are there parameters I may have
> inadvertently set that is causing this?
>

When you're in the file-selection window in Finale try hitting F5 to 
refresh the display.

Or restart Finale.


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[Finale] Cannot find files within Finale

2017-04-30 Thread Michael Lawlor
[2014.5]

I have a folder that I can see from Windows Explorer and can select 
files and they open in Finale.  However, within Finale, if I try to open 
a file, the folder is invisible.  Are there parameters I may have 
inadvertently set that is causing this?

Michael Lawlor

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