[Finale] Dorico and Sibelius

[Howey, Henry]

I have both. They make files that are just files. It’s a strength to some, to 
me a deal breaker.

Finale means that once the notes are entered, I can use them in a variety of 
ways.

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[Finale] COMB gong

[Howey, Henry]

The GONG in the standard list from FINALE INSTRUMENTS is no more. How do I set 
it for the COMB gong?

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[Finale] The Dorico thread

[Howey, Henry]

I paid for Dorico the day it came out. It was alphawate, at best.

Dorico 2 is betaware. If you follow it on Facebook you’ll see many concerns 
expressed.

As for SmartMusic, I must say that it’s PC/MAC version will not work with 25. I 
had to move back to 2012 to have a fully functioning file for juries. We have 
students sightread while accompanied. The iPad version is where all the effort 
is today.

We are at a watershed moment in notation. The demands of a wide audience cannot 
be met in one app. To me, flexibility is the key. Any app that can handle a 
wide audience cannot help but be complex.

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[Finale] 9X12 paper

[Howey, Henry]

Does anyone have sources?

Printer settings?

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[Finale] Accessing 64-bit on Macs

[Howey, Henry]

I work on both Mac and PC.

And my files ain't small.

On a Mac with 25, a file that played easily would not start. I had an error 
message that I've forgotten.

Anyhow, the solution turned out to be increasing the RAM access in the ARIA 
PLAYER.

I see a lot of folks on Facebook complaining about a slowdown on even new Macs.

I see no slowdowns.

What about list members?

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[Finale] Members' reminder

[Howey, Henry]

I'm seeing valid topic posts that are not being sent from registered accounts.

Please take note.

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[Finale] For Michael Good

[Howey, Henry]

I just tried out changing the new MusicXML suffix back to import into Sibelius.

It recognized it as an OLD version;-)

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[Finale] For Michael Good

[Howey, Henry]

I changed the MusicXML to the old suffix.

Sibelius 8.6 said it was an OLD version;-)

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[Finale] MusicXML imports 2014 forward

[Howey, Henry]

Some imports into scores have bizarre octave errors.

Anyone else see this?

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[Finale] FINALE 25 Surface Pro 4 losing authorization

[Howey, Henry]

Has anyone else seen this? This is now the fourth time it has happened.

It's a weekend now so no phone support. I can keep working, but it's getting 
tiresome.

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[Finale] Dorico

[Howey, Henry]

I bought it. It's certainly raw. And they are not interested in making the 
conversion to it seamless.

The biggest disappointment is security. The dingle is still very much part of 
their setup. And it's not advertised.

Since I try to keep up with the state of our art, I think I need to give it a 
look.

I do lots of early music, and the lack of a lunga disappoints. Dorico has at 
least two; however, they explain nothing.

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[Finale] Windoze 10 registration error

[Howey, Henry]

Known bug

And I knew Finale

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Re: [Finale] Weird transposing bug in Finale 25

[Howey, Henry]

Only one staff.



The fault may lie in MusicXML as well. The MusicXML file was generated by 
SHARPEYE.

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From: j...@thomastudios.com <j...@thomastudios.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:00 PM
To: finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] Weird transposing bug in Finale 25

Assuming nothing here, but did you select both staves?  And are they grouped?


***
J D Thomas
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> On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Howey, Henry <mus_...@shsu.edu> wrote:
>
> One of Finale's most useful tools has been the power to transpose keys while 
> maintaining relationships, particular when modes are involved.
>
> I just took a scale study and set up a master. Both bass and treble clefs 
> were involved. While the treble minor section transposed correctly, the bass 
> clef section ignored the minor section altogether and left the notes on the 
> staff unmoved.
>
> This is a stupid bug and must be fixed immediately.
>
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[Finale] Weird transposing bug in Finale 25

[Howey, Henry]

One of Finale's most useful tools has been the power to transpose keys while 
maintaining relationships, particular when modes are involved.

I just took a scale study and set up a master. Both bass and treble clefs were 
involved. While the treble minor section transposed correctly, the bass clef 
section ignored the minor section altogether and left the notes on the staff 
unmoved.

This is a stupid bug and must be fixed immediately.

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[Finale] Windows Enterprise setup of Finale 25

[Howey, Henry]

The problem's solution lay in the way a server-based system works. And Finale 
seems to need special attention in this case. The problem was that ROAMING 
APPDATA is on an external drive and is reloaded to the user's account on each 
re-boot.

The solution was to change the settings on the server and re-start. The changes 
will only become permanent in this matter. I must thank a help source at MM for 
the text settings.

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[Finale] 2012 files to 25

[Howey, Henry]

I use GARRITAN instruments a lot.

There was no issue with moving to 2014.

But I have found that the surest way to re-connect with the links to the 
soundfiles is to export via MusicXML and let the new file re-connect.

But, the priority list for selecting the source files seems unable to be set.

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[Finale] Fatal error in all Finale versions

[Howey, Henry]

I have had this before, and MM will neither own it or even try to find a fix.

If one updates the soundcard drivers, Finale will freeze and even shut down the 
entire box. Windoze only.

Has anyone else a fix for this?

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[Finale] Instrument window in Windoze 10

[Howey, Henry]

Perhaps only on a SURFACE, but the window to set up the instruments cannot be 
used.

Anyone else see this?

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[Finale] Finale 25 ain't true 64-bit

[Howey, Henry]

Why?

Because you cannot move around a playing score like you can in Sibelius.

There is still no lunga for early music.

And my extended set of Garritan sounds is not readily available.

I may move to Steinberg soon.

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[Finale] Garritan Personal Orchestra 5

[Howey, Henry]

While the setup is seamless in 2014/2014.5, 2012 setup is still as before. In 
Garritan Support type in "5688" to get the files to download and the familiar 
instructions;/)

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[Finale] Finale on the Surface Pro 4

[Howey, Henry]

Basically, it's not good.

In order to use it, one must really mess up the screen settings. And drop down 
windows are useless.

And installing Garritan instruments is a bit hellish.

And this with 2014.5

Setting up any new box is slow.

And the Surface is new

More for MakeMusic to fix.



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[Finale] El Capitan cpapble FINALE 20014.5 released

[Howey, Henry]

BUT, no word from AVID yet, so if you use SIBELIUS, wait;-)


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[Finale] Just a few light days

[Howey, Henry]

Hi folks!

It's been quiet ever since MakeMusic warned us about NOT upgrading to EL 
CAPITAN.

For those of you (like me) who must keep up with Sibelius, don't do it. Avid 
says not to.


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[Finale] Comcast bounces

[Howey, Henry]

So far the only bounces I've heard about are from Comcast subscribers. 

And PLEASE contact me offlist directly;-)


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[Finale] From your friendly list owner

[Howey, Henry]

The problem MAY be solved.

Apparently a new piece of hardware was causing the problem. I have been told 
that they've repaired.

Please message me offlist of any problems.


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[Finale] Manual reset

[Howey, Henry]

I have manually reset the list.

Please message me directly with any problems.

mus_...@shsu.edu

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[Finale] Any ideas?

[Howey, Henry]

An Italian colleague has written asking about

http://music-encoding.org/

While this decades-old project uses its own XML and has a Sibelius plug-in, I 
was wondering if any Finale list members knew of this project and the 
possibility of a Finale plug-in as my colleague works exclusively in Finale.

For Michael Good, I was wondering if it might be easier to have an app that 
would cross-code MusicXML with this group's format.

I've been privileged to observe the development of MusicXML for more than a 
decade.

It seems that an outreach from the Finale users might be a good idea.

BTW, I have found Sibelius' MusicXML capabilities limited, so I wonder at the 
efficacy of the music-encoding plug-in.

;-)

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[Finale] From your friendly list owner

[Howey, Henry]

Barbara's problems are new to me.

I have contacted our IT for an explanation for all of you, though Chuck may 
have a solution for you.

I will let everyone know soon as possible.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Michael Good and Java 6

[Howey, Henry]

I just got AUDIVERIS loaded on my work PC. The challenge was that PCs are both 
3264-bit. Some necessary files ended up in the 33 bottle. By removing the 
entire 32 I may be able to run AUDIVERIS.

Finale needs to be wholly 64-bit

now

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[Finale] Message size limit

[Howey, Henry]

I'm afraid messages with attachments will be rejected.

If you have a cloud account, a link might be a solution.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] MakeMusic's demise

[Howey, Henry]

At least in terms of FINALE, they're pounding the nails into their own coffin.

Next is that stake through the heart;-(

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[Finale] MM still deserves a black eye

[Howey, Henry]

Because 2014 doesn't really work either.

The scrolling is useless.

;-(

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[Finale] Why

[Howey, Henry]

Did MM not post the YOSEMITE warning earlier?

That is what is inexcusable.

;-)

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[Finale] It's the BITS;-)

[Howey, Henry]

SIBELIUS, which is already 64-bit is fine in 7 and 7.5.

Failure to go to 64-bit is the reason.

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[Finale] MakeMusic's mealy mouth

[Howey, Henry]

2012 is unsupported in YOSEMITE.


What's worse is that scrolling playback in 2014 is so screwed that it's useless.

What's wrong with these people?

It's hard right now to not be pornographic in expressing outrage.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] MakeMusic has betrayed us

[Howey, Henry]

There is no other way to describe the depths of depravity at MakeMusic.

If I was a shaman, I might conjure a doll and stick pins in it.

I know how to get back to Mavericks.

I simply don't have the time now.

MM has a lot of penance to do for their truly incompetent work here.

This is unforgivable.

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[Finale] Links to really insulting answers from MakeMusic

[Howey, Henry]

Or you're screwed.

http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5599

http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5596

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[Finale] William Sinclair has been hacked

[Howey, Henry]

I'm removing him for the time being. Sorry;-(

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Very, very old files

[Howey, Henry]

I've been resuscitating some 20+ year-old Finale files. Unless I open them in 
2012 and immediately convert them into MusicXML 3.0 they cannot be reliably be 
dealt with.

I must assume the same in 2014. I offer this as a public service to mental 
health.

;-)

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Re: [Finale] Very, very old files

[Howey, Henry]

While one can OPEN old files in 2012/2014, they are often not easily 
copy/pasted into a new document.  In my case none of the RESTS came over;-(

However, the MusicXML export/import does allow the transfer/updating into 
2012/2014 effortlessly.

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From: Williams, Jim [jwilli...@franklincollege.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:48 AM
To: finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] Very, very old files

I have had some difficulty bringing older files into 2014, but nothing totally 
insurmountable. I think repeats and a few other things didn't work. I'll try 
the 2012 to XML  see how it works. I'm in the process (finally) of giving all 
my work the same look, so any time saver is welcome.

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Marcello Noia marcellon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm afraid I did not understand...

 Il 27/08/2014 16:15, Howey, Henry ha scritto:
 I've been resuscitating some 20+ year-old Finale files. Unless I open them 
 in 2012 and immediately convert them into MusicXML 3.0 they cannot be 
 reliably be dealt with.

 I must assume the same in 2014. I offer this as a public service to mental 
 health.

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[Finale] Dynamics in second voice

[Howey, Henry]

Since only solo bass clarinets are available in COMB, how might I be able to 
control these dynamics? They are in Voice 2, but no attempt yet has allowed any 
control over them so they just boom out.

Thanks;-)

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[Finale] Odd tempo change

[Howey, Henry]

I'm working on a piece where I need a good mp3 at the end.

The problem lies in a sudden accelerando that resists all of my attempts to 
rein it in.

The problem lies in Human Playback, but I need Human Playback to have an 
acceptable mp3.

Any ideas?

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[Finale] Fwd: [TGTools] TGTools 2.71 for Finale 2010-2014 available (Windows and Macintosh)

[Howey, Henry]

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Hello,

this is just a quick note that finally, TGTools have been updated to work with 
the latest Finale versions. You will find version 2.71 on our web site, as a 
free update if you have an older v2 license. The TGTools features should 
basically all work, although some may no longer apply to recent Finale versions.

I am also planning a more dedicated upgrade to use the latest data structures 
and add some features. This will be TGTools 3.0 and it is planned as a payed 
upgrade.

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[Finale] Scanning

[Howey, Henry]

The only scanning software worth using is SHARPEYE.

As long as the original is sharp, a 300-600 dpi TIFF or BMP will be over 90% 
useful.

An added benefit is that with the proper clefs, transposed scores can be read 
as well.

And it works on MAC in CROSSOVER though a few tricks are necessary.

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[Finale] Another bad bug in 2014a MAC

[Howey, Henry]

The Engraver font is is screwed up in 2012.

Watch out!

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[Finale] HP messing up playback

[Howey, Henry]

One of my techniques to update the 19th-century instrumentation to a standard 
modern band has been to add the updated instruments via the Score Manger and 
copy and paste, eventually removing the older instruments.

All of a sudden, weird tempo changes have sprung up emanating from HP. When HP 
is deactivated, the tempos are fine. Sadly, ornaments and articulations also 
vanish.

Has anyone a solution.

2012, Mac and PC.

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[Finale] A short list for Jari vis a vis TGTOOLS

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1. FIT MEASURES
2. EXTRACT PART ( different from your polyphony tool)
3. FILL MEASURES ( with real rests) This simplifies reducing white Renaissance 
notation to friendlier black notation.

Thank you;-)

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[Finale] Printer problems

[Howey, Henry]

I just tried out my home printer. Works great with Maverick.

Also, many printers do not really have good MAC firmware updaters. You might 
check with a PC friend to see if there's a firmware update in your future.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] FINALE for $100

[Howey, Henry]

Does this fire sale mean a 64-bit FINALE is near?

;-)

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[Finale] PCFin 2012 audio card boondoggle

[Howey, Henry]

When my new box arrived the IT children failed to update the drivers on the 
soundcard. There is a bug in 2012 that a post-2012 upload that PCFin will 
freeze.

Has anyone de-installed PCFin and have the soundcard update take without 
freezing.

MM support claims that it's a fault of the soundcard.

;-(

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[Finale] COMB2 problem solved

[Howey, Henry]

I was right. There is a new separate installer that works.

Also, there is a new ARIA player for download. 

I really do know what I'm doing, folks. 


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[Finale] COMB2 on MAC

[Howey, Henry]

I am beyond frustrated. I desperately need COMB2 to load on my MAC.

The folks at tech support seem unaware that the contents of their correction 
has no connection to what's there.

Can anyone here help?

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[Finale] The List

[Howey, Henry]

No, I'm not closing the list.

I am wondering how to figure out the MIND ( or lack thereof) at MM;-)

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[Finale] Is FINALE worth continuing?

[Howey, Henry]

I started this list a long time ago.

After dealing with MAC and PC 2012 I now wonder if FINALE is ready to be 
ditched.

1. The MAC interface sucks. The PC is better. Why has it not been updated for 
15+ years?

2. SIBELIUS now has 64-bit access. FINALE gave us score mismanagement.

3. FINALE bought GARRITAN  and MusicXML. Now support for either of these SUCKS!

4. When they were in an acquisitive mood, why not TGTOOLS?

5. SIBELIUS knows it's on the same computer as before when I update hardware. 
Why doesn't FINALE?

6. We are being used as beta testers without benefits. Pay up, MM!

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Hacked accounts

[Howey, Henry]

I have noted the arrival of postings that have the earmarks of hacked accounts. 
I try to de-list such accounts when these arrive.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] 2012 not working PC MAC - SOLVED

[Howey, Henry]

There was a problem with GARRITAN INSTANT ORCHESTRA.

Now both work. The COMB2 is still not working on MAC. I suspect a bad CML file.


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[Finale] 2012 downloader update

[Howey, Henry]

Thanks for the notes.

Actually, I did disable PANDA, and the MAC was absolutely brand new.

The odd part was the 3,400% and the like progress info on the MAC.


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[Finale] MAJOR problems with MakeMusic's new download system

[Howey, Henry]

Has anyone else had a problem with MM's new system?

On both MAC and PC, The only results I get are non-functioning apps. PC just 
crashes, MAC has a whole bunch of gobbldygook of explanation.

I did get 2012 to work from the DVD. Now the 2012a is CRAP, and I have it on 
neither platform.

BTW, I have a really good and fast home network.


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[Finale] Back to MAC

[Howey, Henry]

I'm reworking old files, but the Garritan COMB will not load though I have 
every supporting file where it's to be.

Any ideas?


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[Finale] Win and Mac 2012 updaters flawed

[Howey, Henry]

Even on a new MacBook they do NOT work. I've notified support.

I'll post answer when it comes.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] WinFinale 2012a updater

[Howey, Henry]

The download still hangs up at the font annotation install. Now I will need to 
re-install the application.

Antone else experience this?


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[Finale] Getting Garritan up and running in 2012

[Howey, Henry]

I am concerned about the setup for VSTs in 2012. A lot of it deals with 
hidden folders. 

Why aren't the requisite files available with the install disk?

This is all to deal with the Score Manager, but I already had a way to change 
instruments;-(


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[Finale] VST choices in Wizard in 2012 WinFin

[Howey, Henry]

I no longer see these in 2012.

Can anyone help?


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[Finale] No disks for 2012

[Howey, Henry]

For 2-3 weeks. Has MakeMusic lost its touch?

Henry Howey

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[Finale] FINALE Win 2012 Download woes

[Howey, Henry]

I just updated my license, and on a good home network, the install of Finale 
2012 hangs at the font annotation setup.

I ordered the DVD so i will have to wait.


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[Finale] Biggest disappointment

[Howey, Henry]

is the lack of 64- bit. This is silly not to allow me to use all of my 8 GB of 
RAM with the ARIA player.

Actually, I'm exploring a 16 GB setup already;-)

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Sib7 arrives

[Howey, Henry]

It'll be loaded in another hour or so. I hope Finale goes 64-bit soon. That's 
the main upgrade I need.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Security breach

[Howey, Henry]

I will take this up with techs on Monday. I imagine it slipped in via a hacked 
mailbox.

Henry Howey

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[Finale] Thanks

[Howey, Henry]

KV 406 and KV 388;-)

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[Finale] WinFin 2010 keyboard fail

[Howey, Henry]

I guess I need to re-install 2010 as both of my MIDI keyboards make 2010 go to 
bluescreens. Has anyone else experienced this. Windows 7 pack 1;-(

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[Finale] Where to put full TGTOOLS in MACFIN 20011

[Howey, Henry]

??


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[Finale] TGTOOLS in FinMac 2011

[Howey, Henry]

Where does it go to work as its own menu?

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[Finale] spammer removed

[Howey, Henry E]

I just removed a spammer who may have oinked Earl Shay's account.

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[Finale] Clefs in transposition

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Clefs and key signatures can turn a transposed score in SHARPEYE into useful 
MusicXML.

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RE: [Finale] Re: OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts (Florence + Michael)

[Howey, Henry]

There is a practice, still used in France, called LECTURE. It is sightreading 
using clefs for key transposition.

It was used in other countries, but ha since been dropped.

I suspect that clefs were very normal to both Messian and Gounod;-)

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Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts 
(Florence + Michael)

On 7 Nov 2010 at 10:42, Michael Lawlor wrote:

 Messiaen used soprano clef in Vingt Lecons d'Harmonie (1951).
 Being used to playing from C1 and various other clefs, I would be
 happy for them to make a come-back.

Hmm. Messiaen and Gounod. I seem to recall they have something in
commmon...Maybe the movable clefs persisted longer in France.

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[Finale] RE:WinFinale 2001b updater FAIL

[Howey, Henry]

My updater will not not/cannot update the FINALE application.

Anyone else experiencing this?

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[Finale] 19th-century performances

[Howey, Henry]

I once heard a panel of active early music wind players where conductor and 
idiot were synonomous. Norrington is quite notorious here as his Beethoven 
tempi are from scores B notated long after he was deaf. Too often composers 
hear works in their brain faster than acoustics allow;-(

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 Today's Topics (19 messages)
 On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Steven Larsen st...@larsenbein.com wrote:

 4. Richard Wagner and Richard Strauss are the principal composers to
 promulgate the advancement of the horn (Brahms preferred the sound of the
 natural horn),


 I asked a knowledgeable horn-playing friend about your later question (which
 composers started writing for F horn all the time), and he promised me a
 copy if an interesting article on Brahms horn writing, so I should have more
 to add.  I'll just say that I have been told that, even though Brahms wrote
 parts that were playable on natural horn, he probably never heard tham
 played on natural horn in his lifetime.  He also wrote a book of etudes for
 valved horn!



 and it's interesting to track the changes in horn use and
 notation in their works. Strauss' ...



 Strauss began to almost always favor Horn in F, but often called for
 changes
 to other keys in the course of the work. The best summary of this confusing
 practice is in Strauss' own words (or at least as translated by Theodore
 Front for Strauss' revision of Berlioz' Treatise on Instrumentation,
 written in 1904 and reprinted by Kalmus in 1948):

 Although horn players now use almost exclusively the horns in D, F, high A
 and high B flat . . . it is nevertheless advisable to retain Richard
 Wagner's method of indicating the key of the horns according to the changes
 of key in the music. It is true that horn players do not observe these
 different keys any more; but they are accustomed to transpose any key
 instantly into the key of the horn they are using, and they much prefer
 this
 method to being forced to read all the time the horn in F, ... (p. 279)

 At some point in the 20th century, most composers settled on the
 now-standard Horn in F and stopped the practice of changing horns in the
 parts. Exactly when that happened? I'm sure somebody out there has written
 a
 dissertation on it!

 Steve Larsen


 OK, here's mine:

 My horn-player friend said Mahler settled on F horn after writing for horns
 in keys early, but a quick look through all the Mahler horn parts on
 IMSLP.org found nothing but F horn, so I'm not sure what the early writing
 would be.   Bruckner wrote parts in different keys in some of the
 symphonies, but some have F horn only.  Early Schoenberg and Stravinsky both
 were F horn only.   Not Dvorak - he wrote in keys just as Brahms, [Dvorak
 6th = Horn 1, 2 (in D, F, E), 3, 4 (in E, Bb, D)]  if more chromatically.

 I was curious about J. Strauss Jr., since he might have been more in the
 public trenches - my friend didn't mention him but all the parts on IMSLP
 (not that many) are F horn.  Perhaps the waltz king gets the award for
 helping establish the principle of writing for the F horn specifically, and
 going against the (written later) advice of Richard Strauss?  (Perhaps more
 than ten minutes of research would be needed for this conclusion?)

 Raymond Horton





 Ray - I'm really interested to see what your hornist friend has to share!

 Actually, Brahms DID prefer natural horn, and DID hear his works played on 
 valveless horns - repeatedly.  Robert Pascall, (Vice-Chair of the New 
 Complete Brahms Edition) writes, Brahms preferred the old valveless horn, 
 and could mark notes to be played stopped in case players were tempted to 
 take the easier way.   And there's a wealth of performance history in 
 Brahms' presence to verify not only his preference but experience.

 I think I may have mentioned here in the past Brahms' preference for smaller 
 rather than larger orchestras; on the large-end of performance practice about 
 which we know some details, the Vienna Phil (Brahms' 'hometown' orch) had 78 
 musicians in 1864, 100 by 1885 - and played each of Brahms' symphonies at 
 least four times during his lifetime.  Brahms himself conducted a festival 
 performance of the second in Hamburg in 1878 with an orchestra of 113 but his 
 PREFERRED orchestral sound was a smaller one in which the winds wouldn't be 
 overwhelmed by the strings nor forced into doubling.  A smaller group in 
 which the sound of his beloved natural horn 

[Finale] OT: Historical Horn Notation Question

[Howey, Henry]

Given the period and the uncertain provenance, It's safest to assume they 
messed up;-)

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Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] {Spam} OT: Historical Horn Notation Question

On 29 Oct 2010 at 14:58, Steve Parker wrote:

 It is the tradition for horns to write the parts transposed but
 without key signature.

It's not just tradition, but the only thing that made sense.

But my question is *not* about what the standard tradition is, but
whether or not the different practice I encountered was actually an
alternate practice, or if the score is just faulty.

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[Finale] WinDin 2011a BBBUUUGGG!!!

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Has anyone else had shutdowns using SAVE AS command?

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[Finale] New Server coming up

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Shortly, there will be a new server for the Finale List. You'll see no 
difference, but you might see a small change, especially if you have a stingy 
firewall;-)


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[Finale] WinFin 2011 Percussion error

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  Have you noticed in Finale 2011 that when in a 2nd part in the percussion, 
when you take the cursor off of this part, Finale 2011 shuts down?


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[Finale] ASIO-capable external USB sound card for laptop

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Has anyone a suggestion for this? There are several out there, but reviews seem 
mixed, and the authors at Amazon, etc. are suspicious.

My laptop has Realtek drivers, but asio4all causes bluescreens of extreme 
severity.

Also, my laptop is 64-bit, and Finale/ARIA must work in 32-bit.I have had 32/64 
issues otherwise.

I need an ASIO driver that will ignore the Realtek altogether. I found one, but 
its associated hardware is very backward-looking.

Portability is important to me. Also, I only need to make great WAVs with GPO 
and Finale.


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[Finale] Quickstep tempo

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Until 1930s it was 110 BPM.

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[Finale] AUDIVERIS announcement

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Bonjour,

I am pleased to let you know that Audiveris version 3.3 has just been released 
on the Kenai server.
Among its new features:
- The ability to inject entities directly into the score structure, thanks to a 
drag  drop from a dedicated shape palette.
- The OCR features of Google Tesseract available under both Windows and Linux 
environments.
See further details in release notes.

Latest Audiveris builds are also automically applied on numerous examples from 
the Petrucci Music library.
Get more information on Audiveris home page and access all project components, 
including software distribution, on Kenai server.

Regards
/Hervé

P.S. Please note that Oracle has announced that Java.net server should be 
re-implemented on Kenai infrastructure, so one day every piece of Audiveris 
should be back on Java.net. For the time being, the users mailing list 
(mailto:us...@audiveris.dev.java.net) stays on Java.net side, whereas the 
project management is now handled on Kenai side.


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[Finale] Solution to clipping

[Howey, Henry]

After a re-boot all was well. I'm on a 64-bit machine w/8 gigs of RAM,
thus my disbelief when it kept clipping. All is well now so another
solution to Windoze;-(

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[Finale] Controlling clipping for audio export

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I have the new GPO with ARIA player. Garritan and Finalehave little advice on 
controlling clipping.

Has anyone suggestions?


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[Finale] 64-bit Garritan

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is really GREAT. I haven't tried to see if a 64-bit player is available w/2010 
as I already had GPO4 and JABB3.

The 64-bit ARIA player seems to semi-auto make the assignment of resources to 
CPU and/or RAM.

Anyhow, it sounds great. I now eagerly await COMB2;-)

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RE: [Finale] Dissertation work

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Hey David!

The actual size refers to making the image as close to the intended result as 
possible. This can be done by sizing the document or doing a selection that 
is near the final size;-)

Also, I forgot to mention that WORD treats PS objects as TEXT. Thus center, 
left or right justification from the text control can be used.

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From: David W. Fenton [lists.fin...@dfenton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:50 PM
To: finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] Dissertation work

On 30 Mar 2010 at 23:08, Howey, Henry wrote:

 Use the postscript for insertion into WORD documents. They're big but
 dpi is a function of the printer, not the object,

Well, PostScript (EPS or PS) works fine if you have a PostScript
printer for output, but most Windows users do not, so it's not
helpful to recommend that.

You *are* correct, though, that EPS/PS graphics make dpi irrelevant,
as they scale to whatever output dpi you choose, depending on the
output device.

But for non-scalable graphics, dpi *does* matter. 150dpi is fine for
onscreen display, but is terrible for printing. 300dpi is the lowest
satisfactory dpi for graphics, I'd say, but for things like music, I
don't think it's high enough (you'll get jaggies on beams, for
instance, and if you resize in your target program, you may lose
staff lines; that's dependent on the resizing algorithm used by the
program you've inserted the graphic into, though; MS Word is actually
extremely good with that).

 Try to size close to actual size. Also, breal multi-line images into
 smaller pieces for good pageflow.

Actual size? What does that mean on a computer screen?

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[Finale] Dissertation work

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Use the postscript for insertion into WORD documents. They're big but dpi is a 
function of the printer, not the object,

Try to size close to actual size. Also, breal multi-line images into smaller 
pieces for good pageflow.


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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 80, Issue 16

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[Finale] composers and new effects

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John, I believe instrumental technique has always advanced as
composers write dumb/difficult/impossible things and players get them
to work. It's a two-way street, though. Taafe-Zwillich wrote a bass
trombone concerto that over-uses the stupid pet tricks of Charlie
Vernon;-)

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[Finale] WinFin 2020 Arrow keys not responding

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I finally have 2010 on my school machine; however, the arrow keys and the 
various ways of moving measures around with the selection tool are not working 
as they do on my laptop.

It's still running XP;-)

Any suggestions?


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[Finale] Lunga

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I just noticed that Sibelius has one. I've made them as a visual, but this 
seems a no-brainer for Finale to provide.


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[Finale] MacBook Pro MIDI misery

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I don't recall this, but is there a ready fix for the aluminum-cased MacBooks 
to restore MIDI capabilities?


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[Finale] Windoze 7

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has re-invigorated my work, but Iremain suspicious;-)

Seriously, VISTA was a minefield, and I am seeing real improvement overall. All 
in all, it saved me several thousand dollars, though I may still return to MAC 
if the new MacBook Pros are really good.

I have an iPod and I like NumPad better than NumberKey as its connection with 
TightVNC server seems less intrusive.

SHARPEYE is still the only OCR for music that works well enough to be worth the 
effort.

I have occasion to dabble in SIBELIUS as a friend uses it; however, I still 
find I have more real control in FINALE.

MERRY XMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20

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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20

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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20

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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20

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