Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Michael Edwards]

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre:]

>Tedious, but you could make a copy of the file. There you could
>delete all notes in the offending bar. Then listen if there is an
>artifact in the bar. If not add the notes one by one and listen after
>each entry, whether something wrong occurs. If so check if the
>offending note is a resultant pitch of the notes entered so far. If
>everything comes out well, then go on working from this file. The
>error then were a one-off corruption in the original entry process.
>
>If there is an artifact in the bad bar, my first attempt would be
>about deleting the whole stack of that bar. Then listen whether the
>artifact is rooted in a different bar. If not then insert a new bar
>and then re-enter the contents of the stack again. Most certainly not
>by copying from the original file.
>
>I am a retired teacher and without knowing any code it has been
>helpful to me treating the computer like a kid with learning
>disabilities: Cut up the process in its smallest bits and check after
>each step.


Hallo, Klaus.  Thanks for your suggestion.

  Should have thought of that - maybe would have in time.
  I will try that, so thank you.

Michael Edwards.


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Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Tedious, but you could make a copy of the file. There you could delete all 
notes in the offending bar. Then listen if there is an artifact in the bar. If 
not add the notes one by one and listen after each entry, whether something 
wrong occurs. If so check if the offending note is a resultant pitch of the 
notes entered so far. If everything comes out well, then go on working from 
this file. The error then were a one-off corruption in the original entry 
process.

If there is an artifact in the bad bar, my first attempt would be about 
deleting the whole stack of that bar. Then listen whether the artifact is 
rooted in a different bar. If not then insert a new bar and then re-enter the 
contents of the stack again. Most certainly not by copying from the original 
file.

I am a retired teacher and without knowing any code it has been helpful to me 
treating the computer like a kid with learning disabilities: Cut up the process 
in its smallest bits and check after each step.

Klaus 


On Sun, 1/7/18, Michael Edwards <mjedwa...@foxall.com.au> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music  
playback.
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Sunday, January 7, 2018, 7:22 PM
 
 [Christopher Smith wrote:]
 
 >I am suspecting that the
 left hand Bb is tied over, and the note it
 >is tied over to is actually a B natural.
 
       Thanks for your
 suggestion, Christopher.  I thought for a moment 
 you had it, and kicked myself for not
 checking.  I've just looked again, 
 and
 I'm afraid it's not that.
       I
 neglected to say in which octave this rogue B appeared, and
 it's 
 in the lower octave.  The Bb that
 ties over is the one almost an octave 
 above
 Middle C - but the rogue B is definitely an octave below
 that, 
 adjacent to Middle C.
       Nonetheless, in case the octave was
 deceptive, I used the asterisk 
 to show the
 accidental to check out what you said - and the higher Bb
 
 definitely is a flat, not a natural. 
 There is definitely no B or Cb 
 anywhere in
 that bar.  There is in the following bar (which contains
 the 
 same chord shifted down a perfect 5th)
 - is it beyond the bounds of 
 possibility
 that the Cb from there is somehow being shifted a bar or so
 
 earlier by the Finale playback?
       So I'm afraid the matter is still
 unresolved.
       Can it just be a
 software or memory glitch or bug that does such a 
 thing?  Perhaps I just need to delete the
 whole bar and do it again from 
 scratch, and
 see if it happens again.
 
 Michael
 Edwards.
 

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Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Michael Edwards]

[Christopher Smith wrote:]

>I am suspecting that the left hand Bb is tied over, and the note it
>is tied over to is actually a B natural.

  Thanks for your suggestion, Christopher.  I thought for a moment 
you had it, and kicked myself for not checking.  I've just looked again, 
and I'm afraid it's not that.
  I neglected to say in which octave this rogue B appeared, and it's 
in the lower octave.  The Bb that ties over is the one almost an octave 
above Middle C - but the rogue B is definitely an octave below that, 
adjacent to Middle C.
  Nonetheless, in case the octave was deceptive, I used the asterisk 
to show the accidental to check out what you said - and the higher Bb 
definitely is a flat, not a natural.  There is definitely no B or Cb 
anywhere in that bar.  There is in the following bar (which contains the 
same chord shifted down a perfect 5th) - is it beyond the bounds of 
possibility that the Cb from there is somehow being shifted a bar or so 
earlier by the Finale playback?
  So I'm afraid the matter is still unresolved.
  Can it just be a software or memory glitch or bug that does such a 
thing?  Perhaps I just need to delete the whole bar and do it again from 
scratch, and see if it happens again.

Michael Edwards.


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Re: [Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Christopher Smith]

I am suspecting that the left hand Bb is tied over, and the note it is tied 
over to is actually a B natural. You have to be careful in Simple Entry that 
tied notes also get the alteration, otherwise it may LOOK like a tied B flat, 
but actually be a B natural, which disturbs playback. You said that you 
checked, but in Speedy try hitting the asterisk key, which forces the 
accidental to appear. If it shows up B flat, then I am confused and I have no 
answer. If it shows up B natural, you can hit * again to hide it, and - to 
alter it down to B flat.

Christopher


> On Jan 7, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Michael Edwards  wrote:
> 
> Hallo.
> 
>  In an organ piece I am entering, the following chord appears near 
> the end, all notes named in ascending order and all spaced in 3rds:
> 
>   Ped.: Ab below middle C;
>   l.h.: C Eb Gb Bb;
>   r.h.: D F Ab C.
> 
>  A couple of beats later, all notes are released except the F in 
> the right hand, which is sustained into a new chord (a similar chord 
> based on Db in which the F becomes the top note).  But at the point you 
> release the first chord, in playback an extraneous note creeps in - a B 
> (Cb) in the left hand which really jars.
>  I have double checked, and that note is not notated anywhere in 
> the chord (in either enharmonic spelling), and there are no missing or 
> misplaced accidentals: I cannot see anything wrong at all about the 
> notation in the score - yet that odd note chips in at the very end of 
> the total chord.
>  What is going on here?  Is there a way of fixing it?
>  Thank you.
> 
> Michael Edwards.
> 
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[Finale] Extraneous note appears inexplicably in organ music playback.

[Michael Edwards]

Hallo.

  In an organ piece I am entering, the following chord appears near 
the end, all notes named in ascending order and all spaced in 3rds:

   Ped.: Ab below middle C;
   l.h.: C Eb Gb Bb;
   r.h.: D F Ab C.

  A couple of beats later, all notes are released except the F in 
the right hand, which is sustained into a new chord (a similar chord 
based on Db in which the F becomes the top note).  But at the point you 
release the first chord, in playback an extraneous note creeps in - a B 
(Cb) in the left hand which really jars.
  I have double checked, and that note is not notated anywhere in 
the chord (in either enharmonic spelling), and there are no missing or 
misplaced accidentals: I cannot see anything wrong at all about the 
notation in the score - yet that odd note chips in at the very end of 
the total chord.
  What is going on here?  Is there a way of fixing it?
  Thank you.

Michael Edwards.


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