Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I have not tried upgrading files that use the Mirror Tool, but my guess is
that all the mirrors are converted to copies.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Johannes Gebauer  wrote:

> Am 17.08.16 um 04:14 schrieb Craig Parmerlee:
> > * Mirror tool (i.e. ie no more mirrored measures)
>
> So what happens with files that use the Mirror Tool? I used to use the
> Mirror tool quite a bit, and found it very useful. the typical situation
> would be a baroque piece, where 1st and 2nd violins play in unison a lot
> of the time.
>
> Yes, one could just copy the part over, but using mirrors all the
> changes, corrections etc would automatically transfer to all the
> mirrored parts. I wished the tool had been improved rather than dropped.
>
> (Btw, I bought 2014.5 the day before yesterday. After the update
> appeared I asked MakeMusic for a free upgrade, and within hours it came.
> Thanks MM, for being cooperative and easy on this. Not every company
> does this.)
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Well, I had a look, but I can't really see how this would help me. 
Please enlighten me...

Best,
Johannes

Am 18.08.16 um 14:51 schrieb Dr. Raphael D. Thöne:
> Hi Johannes
>
> I would suggest that you visit finaletips.nu and download all
> available Jari Plugins, as soon as they have been converted to
> 64-bit. I am pretty sure that you find a comparable (and faster) tool
> in one of the Change Plugins.
>
> Best Raphael.
>
>>>

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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-18 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
Hi Johannes

I would suggest that you visit finaletips.nu and download all available Jari 
Plugins, as soon as they have been converted to 64-bit. I am pretty sure that 
you find a comparable (and faster) tool in one of the Change Plugins.

Best
Raphael.

> Am 18.08.2016 um 14:16 schrieb Johannes Gebauer :
> 
> Am 17.08.16 um 04:14 schrieb Craig Parmerlee:
>> * Mirror tool (i.e. ie no more mirrored measures)
> 
> So what happens with files that use the Mirror Tool? I used to use the 
> Mirror tool quite a bit, and found it very useful. the typical situation 
> would be a baroque piece, where 1st and 2nd violins play in unison a lot 
> of the time.
> 
> Yes, one could just copy the part over, but using mirrors all the 
> changes, corrections etc would automatically transfer to all the 
> mirrored parts. I wished the tool had been improved rather than dropped.
> 
> (Btw, I bought 2014.5 the day before yesterday. After the update 
> appeared I asked MakeMusic for a free upgrade, and within hours it came. 
> Thanks MM, for being cooperative and easy on this. Not every company 
> does this.)
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 17.08.16 um 04:14 schrieb Craig Parmerlee:
> * Mirror tool (i.e. ie no more mirrored measures)

So what happens with files that use the Mirror Tool? I used to use the 
Mirror tool quite a bit, and found it very useful. the typical situation 
would be a baroque piece, where 1st and 2nd violins play in unison a lot 
of the time.

Yes, one could just copy the part over, but using mirrors all the 
changes, corrections etc would automatically transfer to all the 
mirrored parts. I wished the tool had been improved rather than dropped.

(Btw, I bought 2014.5 the day before yesterday. After the update 
appeared I asked MakeMusic for a free upgrade, and within hours it came. 
Thanks MM, for being cooperative and easy on this. Not every company 
does this.)
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Yes, I believe I could keep 2014.5 installed and do the auto-harmonizing 
there.  But that begs the question what would be my motivation to go to 
V25 if I have to bounce between apps.

In your case, this 64-bit version *MAY* resolve the speed problems you 
have been having on large scores.  If that is the case, then the upgrade 
would be a clear winner.

There might be a time I'd want to run ReWire, but it isn't all that 
likely for the kinds of projects I have been doing in Finale.

I'd appreciate hearing from anybody with the demo installed, regarding 
whether the many problems with HP have been fixed.

And as of this moment, the Makenusic forum is still rejecting the IP 
address from my Comcast connection (whether I use my PC or a cell phone 
over WiFi on that connection.  If I disable WiFi on my cell phone 
(forcing it through the AT&T network, it gets to the forum OK.  Seems 
like a bad day to have big website problems.

And speaking of that, if you go to the Makemusic site, there is not a 
single word about the new Finale version on the home page.  And if you 
click into the Finale section, still nothing other than a link to  an 
"oh by the way ..." note about the new release.  I would have thought 
with 2+ years to plan this release, they might have wanted to mention 
SOMETHING about it.



On 8/16/2016 10:21 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
> Could you do the auto harmonizing in an older version and then import it?
>

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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-16 Thread Raymond Horton
Could you do the auto harmonizing in an older version and then import it?

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Aug 16, 2016 10:14 PM, "Craig Parmerlee"  wrote:

> I just stumbled across this article that was put out about 3 weeks ago.
> it seems to say these items are removed from the new version:
>
> * Band-in-a-box auto harmonizing
>
> * Mirror tool (i.e. ie no more mirrored measures)
>
> * Tempo tool
>
> * Music scanning
>
> This sounds like a net DOWN-grade to me.
>
> I have the pro version of SmartScan, which I can use with XML, and I
> never used mirrored measures.  But I use the auto-harmonizing all the
> time.  It is a quick way to get an arrangement up and running.  My final
> arrangements rarely use the notes exactly as put out by that plug-in.  I
> will generally scrub it to do better voice leading and improve the
> harmonies (the plug-in seems to go crazy adding 6ths).  But The ability
> to quickly populate a soli section is valuable, IMHO.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 - What's removed?

2016-08-16 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I just stumbled across this article that was put out about 3 weeks ago. 
it seems to say these items are removed from the new version:

* Band-in-a-box auto harmonizing

* Mirror tool (i.e. ie no more mirrored measures)

* Tempo tool

* Music scanning

This sounds like a net DOWN-grade to me.

I have the pro version of SmartScan, which I can use with XML, and I 
never used mirrored measures.  But I use the auto-harmonizing all the 
time.  It is a quick way to get an arrangement up and running.  My final 
arrangements rarely use the notes exactly as put out by that plug-in.  I 
will generally scrub it to do better voice leading and improve the 
harmonies (the plug-in seems to go crazy adding 6ths).  But The ability 
to quickly populate a soli section is valuable, IMHO.
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