Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
On 2008/08/03(日), at 後2:44, Darcy James Argue wrote: I am talking about Finale's Setup Wizard. The JABB instruments are loaded via the Kontakt Player, which comes with JABB. Sorry I wasn't clear. My question was that: If you install Finale after Garritan commercial package, they won't show up in Finale's Setup Wizard. In fact, my Fin2009 Setup Wizard have no GPO and JaBB because these instrument.txt files aren't there. Mind you I didn't install the freebie versions since I have the real ones. Supposed I don't have these files on my other machines to copy from, I was hoping there is a download site somewhere on the net, but I haven't been able to locate it, assuming this is the only way to remedy this issue. Or am I missing something? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
On 2008/08/02(土), at 後8:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: Once installed, the full JABB instruments will show up in Finale's Setup Wizard. You are talking about Kontact Player, not Kontact, right? I have never seen instrument.txt file that works for Kontact. This has been really frustrating me. There isn't even a way to create one for K2/K3 bank. I don't install Kontact Player since I have real Kontact, and I haven't been able to use GPO/JaBB with Finale unless I do extensive programing. Now, another question is, the instrument.txt is produced only when you install Garritan after Finale install. When you install, say Fin2009 after Garritan was installed already, I still don't know how to produce these instrument.txt files. A while ago, I went to google but to no avail. Any idea? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
I am talking about Finale's Setup Wizard. The JABB instruments are loaded via the Kontakt Player, which comes with JABB. I don't own the standalone Kontakt and have never tried to use it with Finale. On 3 Aug 2008, at 1:40 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: On 2008/08/02(土), at 後8:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: Once installed, the full JABB instruments will show up in Finale's Setup Wizard. You are talking about Kontact Player, not Kontact, right? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Williams, Jim wrote: Hi, Craig... Jim Williams here, the euphonium player... Garritan Jazz sounds require a fair amount of score-marking. There is a lot of expressivity, hence the need for a lot of controller action. You **ARE** using human playback, aren't you? That makes the task substantially easier. There is a tutorial on Gary's site about how to match up JABB with Finale. Your results will be LEAGUES better if you really mark up the score. I use one score for playback one for printing. If I want more pinpoint control, I dump a MIDI file into Sonar. Gotta run...more later. Jim W. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Craig Parmerlee Sent: Fri 01-Aug-08 15:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied? I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? But dumping the midi file into Sonar won't help a person who is using the Garritan sounds which come with Finale -- he didn't say he had purchased the JABB set from Garritan. He has simply made use of the newly included samples from JABB which were incorporated in the Fin2009 package. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Craig Parmerlee wrote: I haven't figured out how to turn down the reverb with F2009. Is it a setting in the Aria player? It sounds as if my expectations were too high with the Garritan sounds. Having listened to the orchestra samples, the Finale website implied strongly that you enter the score, turn on Human Playback, and that's what comes out. It did sound too good to be true. I'll probably still use the Garritan sounds if I can figure out how to kill the $%#^$# reverb. I can barely hear the entrances with that reverb running. I'm not likely to do the tweaking to get a really good playback, but of course, I'd like my minimal-tweak version to sound as realistic as it can without much work. I learned long ago, the expensive way, never to trust any sample music one can hear from a software or a hardware vendor's site. Those files are tweaked and retweaked by people who have direct links to the programmers who can help them get the best sounds out of the product, and their sole job is to create demos which impress people so much that they buy the product. They never reflect what an ordinary user who has a life outside of demo-creation can do. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
dhbailey wrote: But dumping the midi file into Sonar won't help a person who is using the Garritan sounds which come with Finale -- he didn't say he had purchased the JABB set from Garritan. He has simply made use of the newly included samples from JABB which were incorporated in the Fin2009 package. That is correct. I am using only the Garritan sounds that come with Finale 2009. It looks like the full Garritan library for jazz instruments is more extensive? If I purchased that full package, are those additional sounds easy to integrate into Finale? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
I had no trouble using the full JABB sounds. You need to use the Kontakt Player 2 to get them loaded into the file, and that interface is nowhere near as clear and elegant as the new Aria Player that comes with Finale, but it works decently. I'm not sure of this, but the impression I think I got from Gary was that the Aria player would eventually be a piece of stand alone software, in which case, perhaps it will become available for use with the full Garritan sounds and the Kontakt Player will become unnecessary. Until then, you use the Kontakt software and the instrument list in Finale, and everything works smoothly. My needs are pretty well served by the full JABB, but there are times, even in my jazz work that I need GPO instruments (Horns, for instance), and the two sets of sounds are easily integrated into a file using the Kontakt Player software. Chuck On Aug 2, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: dhbailey wrote: But dumping the midi file into Sonar won't help a person who is using the Garritan sounds which come with Finale -- he didn't say he had purchased the JABB set from Garritan. He has simply made use of the newly included samples from JABB which were incorporated in the Fin2009 package. That is correct. I am using only the Garritan sounds that come with Finale 2009. It looks like the full Garritan library for jazz instruments is more extensive? If I purchased that full package, are those additional sounds easy to integrate into Finale? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned through Kontact? And likewise, different Finale scores can use different combinations of the Garritan sounds, and those settings are restored automatically each time I open an existing Finale score? I surmise from this discussion that it is not possible to select instruments from the full JABB set when creating a new score using the setup wizard. Is that correct? Chuck Israels wrote: I had no trouble using the full JABB sounds. You need to use the Kontakt Player 2 to get them loaded into the file, and that interface is nowhere near as clear and elegant as the new Aria Player that comes with Finale, but it works decently. I'm not sure of this, but the impression I think I got from Gary was that the Aria player would eventually be a piece of stand alone software, in which case, perhaps it will become available for use with the full Garritan sounds and the Kontakt Player will become unnecessary. Until then, you use the Kontakt software and the instrument list in Finale, and everything works smoothly. My needs are pretty well served by the full JABB, but there are times, even in my jazz work that I need GPO instruments (Horns, for instance), and the two sets of sounds are easily integrated into a file using the Kontakt Player software. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
On 2 Aug 2008, at 8:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? Yes. In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned through Kontact? Yes. And likewise, different Finale scores can use different combinations of the Garritan sounds, and those settings are restored automatically each time I open an existing Finale score? Yes. I surmise from this discussion that it is not possible to select instruments from the full JABB set when creating a new score using the setup wizard. Is that correct? No. Once installed, the full JABB instruments will show up in Finale's Setup Wizard. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned through Kontact? And likewise, different Finale scores can use different combinations of the Garritan sounds, and those settings are restored automatically each time I open an existing Finale score? All of this - yes. I surmise from this discussion that it is not possible to select instruments from the full JABB set when creating a new score using the setup wizard. Is that correct? I don't think so, but maybe Darcy knows better. I don't use the wizard much. Chuck Chuck Israels wrote: I had no trouble using the full JABB sounds. You need to use the Kontakt Player 2 to get them loaded into the file, and that interface is nowhere near as clear and elegant as the new Aria Player that comes with Finale, but it works decently. I'm not sure of this, but the impression I think I got from Gary was that the Aria player would eventually be a piece of stand alone software, in which case, perhaps it will become available for use with the full Garritan sounds and the Kontakt Player will become unnecessary. Until then, you use the Kontakt software and the instrument list in Finale, and everything works smoothly. My needs are pretty well served by the full JABB, but there are times, even in my jazz work that I need GPO instruments (Horns, for instance), and the two sets of sounds are easily integrated into a file using the Kontakt Player software. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Hi, Craig... Jim Williams here, the euphonium player... Garritan Jazz sounds require a fair amount of score-marking. There is a lot of expressivity, hence the need for a lot of controller action. You **ARE** using human playback, aren't you? That makes the task substantially easier. There is a tutorial on Gary's site about how to match up JABB with Finale. Your results will be LEAGUES better if you really mark up the score. I use one score for playback one for printing. If I want more pinpoint control, I dump a MIDI file into Sonar. Gotta run...more later. Jim W. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Craig Parmerlee Sent: Fri 01-Aug-08 15:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied? I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Hi Craig, I use the full set of Garritan sounds (Jazz and Orchestra) and find them a little more than marginally better than the soft synth sounds. Some are quite good; the recording of my bass (#2 in the full set), baritone sax, some of the brass, and the piano and guitar are both pretty good. That said, there are such limitations to this whole deal of synthesized sound, and especially notation driven playback, that I never expect anything but a remote resemblance to reality - even the reality of a not very good band. Attacks, balances and dynamics changing on the fly are an integral part of any musical language and ensemble. Multiply that by an order of magnitude for a jazz ensemble. Any attempt to get notation driven playback to sound like that is going to fall frustratingly short. Garritan sound playback as manipulated by experienced and musical midi experts can sound much better. Examples in the arranging book I wrote for Gary (When is he going to get around to releasing it?) were done by an Italian musician with considerable skill and taste in this area. But my own Finale playback never sounds that good, and none of it, even the highly tweaked stuff, ever fools me. That said, it is a question of personal training and habit - how much reality each individual needs to stimulate his or her memory of real sounds and real players. I have become used to translating what I hear from Finale and JABB into a sketch of what I will hear from the band, and the colors help differentiate things better than just a piano sound (the way I used to work, before Garritan). But, I reiterate, balances are hopelessly unreliable, phrase shapes are almost non-existent, and, in spite of Robert Piechaud's incredible work, nothing sounds like real music. I do take issue with the impression that these sound like the regular sounds with more reverb. In the full set, using the Kontakt player, you can adjust the reverb (I have mine set to medium or large room - not to any hall), or turn it off completely, and this helps to remove the blurred distinction between soft synth and Garritan. Just don't expect a revolutionary jump in playback quality. Chuck On Aug 1, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
my first suggestion is to turn down the reverb. I use the JABB library and it defaults to the reverb on 50% and the dry signal at 0% Mark McCarron --- Craig Parmerlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
On 1 Aug 2008, at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. The Garritan sounds are recorded dry. Reverb settings are controlled by the Ambience Reverb plugin (still not available by default on Intel Macs!), and the default settings are very bad. You will have much better results if you use a more appropriate preset, create your own settings, or turn it off. And, as Chuck said, you really must use Human Playback when using Garritan instruments. One huge advantage to the Garritan Sounds + HP (versus the SoftSynth sounds) is that HP automatically creates back- accented tonguing when playing back in a jazz swing style, and automatically adjusts the level of swing depending on the tempo and depending on whether notes are an anticipation or not. When using SoftSynth instruments, every note is always tongued, the level of swing does not scale with the tempo, and anticipations are treated the same as consecutive notes. Also: I assume you are using good speakers/headphones? If you are just using the built-in speakers on your computer (or cheap computer speakers), then of course you won't notice much of a difference. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
To add one piece of information to Darcy's coherent thoughts, I misinformed you about where the reverb setting shows up. You can turn it off in the mixer window in Finale. Look on the right. Chuck On Aug 1, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 1 Aug 2008, at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. The Garritan sounds are recorded dry. Reverb settings are controlled by the Ambience Reverb plugin (still not available by default on Intel Macs!), and the default settings are very bad. You will have much better results if you use a more appropriate preset, create your own settings, or turn it off. And, as Chuck said, you really must use Human Playback when using Garritan instruments. One huge advantage to the Garritan Sounds + HP (versus the SoftSynth sounds) is that HP automatically creates back- accented tonguing when playing back in a jazz swing style, and automatically adjusts the level of swing depending on the tempo and depending on whether notes are an anticipation or not. When using SoftSynth instruments, every note is always tongued, the level of swing does not scale with the tempo, and anticipations are treated the same as consecutive notes. Also: I assume you are using good speakers/headphones? If you are just using the built-in speakers on your computer (or cheap computer speakers), then of course you won't notice much of a difference. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
I haven't figured out how to turn down the reverb with F2009. Is it a setting in the Aria player? It sounds as if my expectations were too high with the Garritan sounds. Having listened to the orchestra samples, the Finale website implied strongly that you enter the score, turn on Human Playback, and that's what comes out. It did sound too good to be true. I'll probably still use the Garritan sounds if I can figure out how to kill the $%#^$# reverb. I can barely hear the entrances with that reverb running. I'm not likely to do the tweaking to get a really good playback, but of course, I'd like my minimal-tweak version to sound as realistic as it can without much work. Mark McCarron wrote: my first suggestion is to turn down the reverb. I use the JABB library and it defaults to the reverb on 50% and the dry signal at 0% Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Emulating real instruments isn't close to reality yet. You need to tweak a lot because blending to avoid giving away the fake sound is totally case by case. Finale's HP is quite well done, but current AI isn't capable of emulating. Here, JaBB sample done by Finale + tweaking in DP. http://www.anonemusic.com/audioClips/doYou Here, JaBB recorded with EWI in DP: http://www.anonemusic.com/audioClips/ponto You should be able to hear the differences. I still believe Garritan's CC1 approach is the only way that makes sense to reproduce wind samples. I just don't understand sample libs that use velocity on wind instrument samples. It is just so illogical to the nature of the instruments. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Yes, I'm using Yamaha studio speakers. I'm using Human Playback. I just figured out how to set the Garritan reverb. That is a big improvement. My articulations had been really muddied by the reverb. Now I need to adjust my articulations and I should end up with a decent rendition. I can now hear that my sax voicings aren't the best -- which is the kind of thing I was hoping would come through with the Garritan sounds. So things are looking up. As an aside, I bit the bullet and bought a 28 monitor. I have my system set up with a main monitor that is 20, which is a good place to park the media player and miscellaneous apps. I maximize Finale on the big screen and I can display a full jazz band score top to bottom and the staves are big enough to edit directly. I can see about 15 measures horizontally in scroll mode. I think this is going to make a big difference for me. Just as a general comment, I jumped from 2007. I was a little disoriented at first with the mass-edit being gone, but I am really liking this function being available under the selection tool, which is more-or-less the default mode for Finale now. Darcy James Argue wrote: On 1 Aug 2008, at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. The Garritan sounds are recorded dry. Reverb settings are controlled by the Ambience Reverb plugin (still not available by default on Intel Macs!), and the default settings are very bad. You will have much better results if you use a more appropriate preset, create your own settings, or turn it off. And, as Chuck said, you really must use Human Playback when using Garritan instruments. One huge advantage to the Garritan Sounds + HP (versus the SoftSynth sounds) is that HP automatically creates back-accented tonguing when playing back in a jazz swing style, and automatically adjusts the level of swing depending on the tempo and depending on whether notes are an anticipation or not. When using SoftSynth instruments, every note is always tongued, the level of swing does not scale with the tempo, and anticipations are treated the same as consecutive notes. Also: I assume you are using good speakers/headphones? If you are just using the built-in speakers on your computer (or cheap computer speakers), then of course you won't notice much of a difference. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080722-1, 07/22/2008 Tested on: 8/1/2008 9:03:59 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
Well, I am still a little confused. I did find the mixer window and saw the reverb controls. There seems to be a pull-down list for room size, but it doesn't work. I wonder if that is only available with SoftSynth. I'm not sure the reverb control does anything here either. Meanwhile, I hit ctl-alt-I to bring up the VST Instruments window. That popped up a dialog that included a checkbox for Ambiance reverb. Uncheck that and the Garritan goes completely dry. Beside the checkbox is a button called Edit. If you click that, it brings up another application window called Garritan Ambiance which is loaded with controls to shape the reverb, including separate sliders to mix the dry sound with the reverb sound. Chuck Israels wrote: To add one piece of information to Darcy's coherent thoughts, I misinformed you about where the reverb setting shows up. You can turn it off in the mixer window in Finale. Look on the right. Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
HI Craig, On 1 Aug 2008, at 10:01 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, I am still a little confused. I did find the mixer window and saw the reverb controls. There seems to be a pull-down list for room size, but it doesn't work. I wonder if that is only available with SoftSynth. Correct. This mixer reverb control does not affect reverb for Garritan (or other VST/AU) instruments. Meanwhile, I hit ctl-alt-I to bring up the VST Instruments window. That popped up a dialog that included a checkbox for Ambiance reverb. Uncheck that and the Garritan goes completely dry. Beside the checkbox is a button called Edit. If you click that, it brings up another application window called Garritan Ambiance which is loaded with controls to shape the reverb, including separate sliders to mix the dry sound with the reverb sound. Yes -- that would be the reverb you are looking for. (On Mac, it's AU Instruments - Ambience Reverb.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
