Re: [Finale] Inefficient Management of Cross-staff Notes with Reversed Stems
Thank you David, I tried working around the problem just farmer you suggestion and, while fiddling with the articulation designer I realised what JD Thomas pointed out, and it seems to be working. Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On 2 Sep 2019, at 11:40, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > I’ve got a series of eight notes, beamed in couples with their heads placed > on two different adjacent staves (like a piano double staff system). They > where so positioned via Note Mover –> Cross Staff; the top note has the stem > facing downward and vice versa, therefore, the beam line lays horizontally > between the two note-heads. Two staccato dots are placed on the note-heads > but the staccato for the note one the top staff is erroneously positioned > under the beam, instead of being above the note-head. If I double click the > articulation’s handle, that’l suddenly move the staccato to its proper place, > but just for the moment, until any other action is taken, after which it’ll > go back to the original, unwanted place. It looks like Finale can’t deal with > articulations on cross-staff notes with reversed stem, at least it’s > happening to me now (and was the same in the past, as far as I recall). > I understand I could manually place an attachment of the needed symbol, but I > would first try to see if there’s a possible, more effective workaround. > Running Finale 25.5 on a Mac. > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Inefficient Management of Cross-staff Notes with Reversed Stems
Thank you David, I tried working around the problem just farmer you suggestion and, while fiddling with the articulation designer I realised what JD Thomas pointed out, and it seems to new working. > On 2 Sep 2019, at 17:11, J D Thomas wrote: > > I deal with this issue all of the time but, if I understand you correctly, it > usually occurs with cross-staff notes with reverse stems. My workaround is > to have two versions of the same articulation: one’s position on the note > side and one on the stem side. If the staccato dot appears on the wrong > side, I simply delete it and place the opposite one. IOW, if the dot is > meant to be on the note side and it’s flipping on CS notes, I replace it with > a dot on the stem side; or vice versa. Then Finale seems to place it > correctly. I’ve been complaining about this for years. In later versions of > Finale, they now have an auto placement for articulations. But I’ve been > doing this workaround for song long, I haven’t tried that. > > J D Thomas > ThomaStudios > > >> On Sep 2, 2019, at 2:40 AM, Giovanni Andreani >> wrote: >> >> I’ve got a series of eight notes, beamed in couples with their heads placed >> on two different adjacent staves (like a piano double staff system). They >> where so positioned via Note Mover –> Cross Staff; the top note has the stem >> facing downward and vice versa, therefore, the beam line lays horizontally >> between the two note-heads. Two staccato dots are placed on the note-heads >> but the staccato for the note one the top staff is erroneously positioned >> under the beam, instead of being above the note-head. If I double click the >> articulation’s handle, that’l suddenly move the staccato to its proper >> place, but just for the moment, until any other action is taken, after which >> it’ll go back to the original, unwanted place. It looks like Finale can’t >> deal with articulations on cross-staff notes with reversed stem, at least >> it’s happening to me now (and was the same in the past, as far as I recall). >> I understand I could manually place an attachment of the needed symbol, but >> I would first try to see if there’s a possible, more effective workaround. >> Running Finale 25.5 on a Mac. >> >> >> >> >> Giovanni Andreani >> >> www.giovanniandreani.com >> www.ga-music.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Inefficient Management of Cross-staff Notes with Reversed Stems
I deal with this issue all of the time but, if I understand you correctly, it usually occurs with cross-staff notes with reverse stems. My workaround is to have two versions of the same articulation: one’s position on the note side and one on the stem side. If the staccato dot appears on the wrong side, I simply delete it and place the opposite one. IOW, if the dot is meant to be on the note side and it’s flipping on CS notes, I replace it with a dot on the stem side; or vice versa. Then Finale seems to place it correctly. I’ve been complaining about this for years. In later versions of Finale, they now have an auto placement for articulations. But I’ve been doing this workaround for song long, I haven’t tried that. J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Sep 2, 2019, at 2:40 AM, Giovanni Andreani > wrote: > > I’ve got a series of eight notes, beamed in couples with their heads placed > on two different adjacent staves (like a piano double staff system). They > where so positioned via Note Mover –> Cross Staff; the top note has the stem > facing downward and vice versa, therefore, the beam line lays horizontally > between the two note-heads. Two staccato dots are placed on the note-heads > but the staccato for the note one the top staff is erroneously positioned > under the beam, instead of being above the note-head. If I double click the > articulation’s handle, that’l suddenly move the staccato to its proper place, > but just for the moment, until any other action is taken, after which it’ll > go back to the original, unwanted place. It looks like Finale can’t deal with > articulations on cross-staff notes with reversed stem, at least it’s > happening to me now (and was the same in the past, as far as I recall). > I understand I could manually place an attachment of the needed symbol, but I > would first try to see if there’s a possible, more effective workaround. > Running Finale 25.5 on a Mac. > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Inefficient Management of Cross-staff Notes with Reversed Stems
On 9/2/2019 5:40 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: I’ve got a series of eight notes, beamed in couples with their heads placed on two different adjacent staves (like a piano double staff system). They where so positioned via Note Mover –> Cross Staff; the top note has the stem facing downward and vice versa, therefore, the beam line lays horizontally between the two note-heads. Two staccato dots are placed on the note-heads but the staccato for the note one the top staff is erroneously positioned under the beam, instead of being above the note-head. If I double click the articulation’s handle, that’l suddenly move the staccato to its proper place, but just for the moment, until any other action is taken, after which it’ll go back to the original, unwanted place. It looks like Finale can’t deal with articulations on cross-staff notes with reversed stem, at least it’s happening to me now (and was the same in the past, as far as I recall). I understand I could manually place an attachment of the needed symbol, but I would first try to see if there’s a possible, more effective workaround. Running Finale 25.5 on a Mac. Did you place the staccato dots before moving the notes to the other staff? If not, try that. If you've already done it that way (gotten the music all set first and then moved the notes with the note mover) then I'm out of ideas other than manually moving the articulations that are wrong. -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Inefficient Management of Cross-staff Notes with Reversed Stems
I’ve got a series of eight notes, beamed in couples with their heads placed on two different adjacent staves (like a piano double staff system). They where so positioned via Note Mover –> Cross Staff; the top note has the stem facing downward and vice versa, therefore, the beam line lays horizontally between the two note-heads. Two staccato dots are placed on the note-heads but the staccato for the note one the top staff is erroneously positioned under the beam, instead of being above the note-head. If I double click the articulation’s handle, that’l suddenly move the staccato to its proper place, but just for the moment, until any other action is taken, after which it’ll go back to the original, unwanted place. It looks like Finale can’t deal with articulations on cross-staff notes with reversed stem, at least it’s happening to me now (and was the same in the past, as far as I recall). I understand I could manually place an attachment of the needed symbol, but I would first try to see if there’s a possible, more effective workaround. Running Finale 25.5 on a Mac. Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
