Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread dhbailey

Brad Beyenhof wrote:


On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Finale Friends...

We now have...

*Finale
*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter



How about the Engraver's Edition that notates music cleanly and
efficiently without even claiming to do any of the
marketing-hype-driven fluff like the rhyming dictionary and
auto-harmonization?



Now we really are into the realms of fantasy!  :-o


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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread dhbailey

Williams, Jim wrote:


Randolph...a follow-up...

Then you'd call Tech Support after 5 or 6 pots worth of grounds
disappeared, and they'd say they've never heard of the brand of
coffee you use, and IT must be the cause of your problem. You can't
expect a coffeemaker to work properly with every single brand of
coffee ever made, now, can you???...if they had to test it with every
brand of coffee they'd go broke, and they'd all die of caffeine
poisoning because, after all, they are a small company. Jim W.



A small company which really prefers tea to begin with, so they don't 
really understand coffee, but they added the Finale Coffeepot (tm) 
because so many of their largest customers were asking for it.


FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2006a is now available but all it does by way of 
improvement over FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2006 is automatically pour a cup 
when its done brewing, provided the grounds haven't disappeared first -- 
they're working on that issue and are confused as to why coffee doesn't 
come in tidy little bags to begin with.  Oh, wait, it DOES come in tidy 
little bags -- they'll include that option in FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2007 at 
the normal $90 upgrade fee, which will also include the ability to 
automatically add creamer to your cup, which you'll be forced to pay for 
even if you don't use cream in your coffe.



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RE: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Williams, Jim
FinaleCoffeepot has claimed since 2001 that it can export coffee as an 
Extra-Pungent Solution (EPS) that can be imported into other coffee-related 
devices for further processing. No user, however, has EVER been able to get 
workable EPS out of ANY version of FinaleCoffeepot.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of dhbailey
Sent: Fri 04-Nov-05 4:52
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest



Williams, Jim wrote:

 Randolph...a follow-up...

 Then you'd call Tech Support after 5 or 6 pots worth of grounds
 disappeared, and they'd say they've never heard of the brand of
 coffee you use, and IT must be the cause of your problem. You can't
 expect a coffeemaker to work properly with every single brand of
 coffee ever made, now, can you???...if they had to test it with every
 brand of coffee they'd go broke, and they'd all die of caffeine
 poisoning because, after all, they are a small company. Jim W.


A small company which really prefers tea to begin with, so they don't
really understand coffee, but they added the Finale Coffeepot (tm)
because so many of their largest customers were asking for it.

FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2006a is now available but all it does by way of
improvement over FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2006 is automatically pour a cup
when its done brewing, provided the grounds haven't disappeared first --
they're working on that issue and are confused as to why coffee doesn't
come in tidy little bags to begin with.  Oh, wait, it DOES come in tidy
little bags -- they'll include that option in FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2007 at
the normal $90 upgrade fee, which will also include the ability to
automatically add creamer to your cup, which you'll be forced to pay for
even if you don't use cream in your coffe.


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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 04.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:
FinaleCoffeepot has claimed since 2001 that it can export coffee as 
an Extra-Pungent Solution (EPS) that can be imported into other 
coffee-related devices for further processing. No user, however, has 
EVER been able to get workable EPS out of ANY version of 
FinaleCoffeepot.



That's not quite true. Those who use a standard mains connection cannot 
get workable EPS, however, those who use FinaleCoffeePot with a self 
maintained solar connection can get workable EPS, although in recent 
versions for the new SolarX environment the EPS was sometimes missing 
all traces of caffeine. However, the combination of FinCofPo 2k6 and the 
very latest SolarX has solved this problem and will now enrich EPS with 
all types of caffeine again (both TrueCaffeine and PostCaffeine).


On the other hand noone can yet say whether FinCofPo will work with the 
announced new version of SolarX which will also run off the mains, but 
will require a special contract with your electricity company where only 
solar power is being used.


Johannes

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RE: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Williams, Jim
Johannes,
Why would ANYONE use that AWFUL SolarX environment whan the other one is so 
clearly superior??
Jim



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Johannes Gebauer
Sent: Fri 04-Nov-05 5:50
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest



On 04.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:
 FinaleCoffeepot has claimed since 2001 that it can export coffee as
 an Extra-Pungent Solution (EPS) that can be imported into other
 coffee-related devices for further processing. No user, however, has
 EVER been able to get workable EPS out of ANY version of
 FinaleCoffeepot.


That's not quite true. Those who use a standard mains connection cannot
get workable EPS, however, those who use FinaleCoffeePot with a self
maintained solar connection can get workable EPS, although in recent
versions for the new SolarX environment the EPS was sometimes missing
all traces of caffeine. However, the combination of FinCofPo 2k6 and the
very latest SolarX has solved this problem and will now enrich EPS with
all types of caffeine again (both TrueCaffeine and PostCaffeine).

On the other hand noone can yet say whether FinCofPo will work with the
announced new version of SolarX which will also run off the mains, but
will require a special contract with your electricity company where only
solar power is being used.

Johannes

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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 04.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:

Johannes,
Why would ANYONE use that AWFUL SolarX environment whan the other one 
is so clearly superior??

Jim


Because it promises independence from the overwhelmingly powerful big 
electricity provider? Because it provides environmentally friendly 
power? Because it doesn't depend on oil? Because, with it you get EPS? 
Because, when you subscribe to it you get a free dishwhasher, vacuum 
cleaner and whashing machine, all of which are superior to what you can 
get for the other environment? Because blackouts are unheard of?


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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Andrew Stiller


On Nov 3, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:


On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Finale Friends...

We now have...

*Finale
*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter


How about the Engraver's Edition that notates music cleanly and
efficiently without even claiming to do any of the
marketing-hype-driven fluff like the rhyming dictionary and
auto-harmonization?



Ooh! Ooh! Yes! Where can I get one?

Andrew (I'll have what she's having)Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Nov 2005 at 4:52, dhbailey wrote:

[re: FinaleCoffeepot(tm)2006]

On the subject of lunacy related to coffee, has anyone else heard 
these radio spots for diet coffee? I can't remember the name, but the 
idea is that the coffee includes weight loss drugs in it. I hear 
these ads on Air America all the time, and it just boggles my mind 
that someone would think to put such things together (it's a 
floorwax! it's a desert topping!).

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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Nov 2005 at 15:52, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

 On 04.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:
  Why would ANYONE use that AWFUL SolarX environment whan the other
  one is so clearly superior?? Jim

 Because it promises independence from the overwhelmingly powerful big
 electricity provider? Because it provides environmentally friendly
 power? Because it doesn't depend on oil? Because, with it you get EPS?
 Because, when you subscribe to it you get a free dishwhasher, vacuum
 cleaner and whashing machine, all of which are superior to what you
 can get for the other environment? Because blackouts are unheard of?

This is great -- a pseudo-flamewar over imaginary software.

I think this demonstrates that there must be something archetypal 
about disputes of this nature (OS wars, for instance), given that we 
are capable of conducting such a flamewar over products that don't 
even exist.

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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Daley

At 11/4/2005 02:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

On the subject of lunacy related to coffee, has anyone else heard
these radio spots for diet coffee? I can't remember the name, but the
idea is that the coffee includes weight loss drugs in it. I hear
these ads on Air America all the time, and it just boggles my mind
that someone would think to put such things together (it's a
floorwax! it's a desert topping!).

I did read about a serious national health study that found: dieters that 
drink coffee lose more weight.


Phil Daley   AutoDesk 
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Owain Sutton

OK, how about this one, Finale Final:


The world's most powerful notation softwareprovides you with robust 
tool sets, unlimited options, and total control. With more power and 
speed than ever before.



Three guesses where I cut--pasted that from ;)
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 04.11.2005 David W. Fenton wrote:

This is great -- a pseudo-flamewar over imaginary software.


I'd consider the FinaleCoffeePod hardware, actually. The beans are the 
software, no?


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OT: Coffe for weight loss (was: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest)

2005-11-04 Thread Fisher, Allen
I find that interesting, because caffine makes me hungry. It wasn't
until I swore off it that I realized it was a contributing factor to
dropping a pile of pounds (pizza, mt. dew, coffee, and Finale are a
deadly mix ;-))

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Phil Daley
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:53 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest


At 11/4/2005 02:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 On the subject of lunacy related to coffee, has anyone else heard
 these radio spots for diet coffee? I can't remember the name, but the
 idea is that the coffee includes weight loss drugs in it. I hear
 these ads on Air America all the time, and it just boggles my mind
 that someone would think to put such things together (it's a
 floorwax! it's a desert topping!).

I did read about a serious national health study that found: dieters
that 
drink coffee lose more weight.

Phil Daley   AutoDesk 
http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley



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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-04 Thread Christopher Smith


On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:


On 04.11.2005 David W. Fenton wrote:

This is great -- a pseudo-flamewar over imaginary software.
I'd consider the FinaleCoffeePod hardware, actually. The beans are the 
software, no?




The cPod! I like it!

With an intravenous drip into a handy vein, so you don't actually have 
to taste the coffee, or spill it onto your seatmate on the bus. 
Rechargeable at any StarBucks (or around here, Van Houtte).


And for tea drinkers, the tPod.

For iced tea lovers, the iPod (no, wait, that's been taken.)

For someone who likes all three, the triPod (sounds vaguely familiar, 
too...)


8-)

Christopher

(insert your own joke here about software not being worth beans, or 
making you nervous, or being grounds for legal action...)


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[Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Williams, Jim
Finale Friends...
 
We now have...
 
*Finale
*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter
 
WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance to dream 
(ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?
 

 
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Owain Sutton



Williams, Jim wrote:

Finale Friends...
 
We now have...
 
*Finale

*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter
 
WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance to dream (ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?




Finale Justdoeswhatitclaims (or am I being silly?)
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread dhbailey

Williams, Jim wrote:


Finale Friends...
 
We now have...
 
*Finale

*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter
 
WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance to dream (ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?
 


Finale Dirge Composer -- automatically generates music to be played at 
funeral services for over-bloated software.


Finale Jingle Composer -- Give us a product and we'll auto-compose a 
jingle for you (comes with new expanded Rhyming Dictionary(tm) which 
includes words like cheeseburger and Corvette.)


Finale A La Carte -- you get to choose whether to include GPO or not, 
you decide which plug-ins you want to pay for (already paid for TGTools? 
No need to pay twice, we simply won't ship the lite version to you) Wish 
that silly EPS export wasn't taunting you Windows users from the 
Graphics menu?  We'll take it out for you!  Upgrade prices range from 
$39.95 on up, your choice.


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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Finale Friends...

 We now have...

 *Finale
 *Print Music
 *Finale Guitar
 *Finale Songwriter

How about the Engraver's Edition that notates music cleanly and
efficiently without even claiming to do any of the
marketing-hype-driven fluff like the rhyming dictionary and
auto-harmonization?

--
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Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also
deprive me of the possibility of being right.   ~ Igor Stravinsky

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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 03.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:

We now have...
 
*Finale

*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter
 
WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance 
to dream (ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?




I have been waiting for the Finale coffeemaker for years.

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Re: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread richard.bartkus
How about Finale Rap

The default template will automatically ressurect some random worn out groove 
from the 80's.  The Rap Generator plug-in will start with the fundamental 
Square Dance Caller lead line, replacing evry fourth word with the obligatory 
profanity.   

Whaddayathink ?

 
 From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/11/03 Thu PM 05:17:11 EST
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest
 
 Williams, Jim wrote:
 
  Finale Friends...
   
  We now have...
   
  *Finale
  *Print Music
  *Finale Guitar
  *Finale Songwriter
   
  WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance to 
  dream (ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?
   
 
 Finale Dirge Composer -- automatically generates music to be played at 
 funeral services for over-bloated software.
 
 Finale Jingle Composer -- Give us a product and we'll auto-compose a 
 jingle for you (comes with new expanded Rhyming Dictionary(tm) which 
 includes words like cheeseburger and Corvette.)
 
 Finale A La Carte -- you get to choose whether to include GPO or not, 
 you decide which plug-ins you want to pay for (already paid for TGTools? 
 No need to pay twice, we simply won't ship the lite version to you) Wish 
 that silly EPS export wasn't taunting you Windows users from the 
 Graphics menu?  We'll take it out for you!  Upgrade prices range from 
 $39.95 on up, your choice.
 
 -- 
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Owain Sutton



Brad Beyenhof wrote:

On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Finale Friends...

We now have...

*Finale
*Print Music
*Finale Guitar
*Finale Songwriter



How about the Engraver's Edition that notates music cleanly and
efficiently without even claiming to do any of the
marketing-hype-driven fluff like the rhyming dictionary and
auto-harmonization?




Huh?  Engravers?  What are they?
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Barbara Touburg
But - but - they gave us T-shirts... (I have one, haha)


Johannes Gebauer wrote:
 On 03.11.2005 Williams, Jim wrote:
 We now have...
 
 *Finale
 *Print Music
 *Finale Guitar
 *Finale Songwriter
 
 WHAT'S NEXT??? Submit your entries to the group...now's your chance
 to dream (ha,ha)!!  WHAT'S NEXT?
 
 
 I have been waiting for the Finale coffeemaker for years.
 
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Randolph Peters

At 11:27 PM +0100 11/3/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

I have been waiting for the Finale coffeemaker for years.


Let's see, a Finale coffeemaker: Yeah, it would probably take 
forever, run on DC power, and every once in a while make your grounds 
disappear.


-Randolph Peters
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RE: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Williams, Jim
Randolph...a follow-up...
 
Then you'd call Tech Support after 5 or 6 pots worth of grounds disappeared, 
and they'd say they've never heard of the brand of coffee you use, and IT must 
be the cause of your problem. You can't expect a coffeemaker to work properly 
with every single brand of coffee ever made, now, can you???...if they had to 
test it with every brand of coffee they'd go broke, and they'd all die of 
caffeine poisoning because, after all, they are a small company.
Jim W.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Randolph Peters
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To: finale@shsu.edu
Cc: Johannes Gebauer
Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest



At 11:27 PM +0100 11/3/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I have been waiting for the Finale coffeemaker for years.

Let's see, a Finale coffeemaker: Yeah, it would probably take
forever, run on DC power, and every once in a while make your grounds
disappear.

-Randolph Peters
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Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest

2005-11-03 Thread Chuck Israels


On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Williams, Jim wrote:


Randolph...a follow-up...

Then you'd call Tech Support after 5 or 6 pots worth of grounds  
disappeared, and they'd say they've never heard of the brand of  
coffee you use, and IT must be the cause of your problem. You can't  
expect a coffeemaker to work properly with every single brand of  
coffee ever made, now, can you???...if they had to test it with  
every brand of coffee they'd go broke, and they'd all die of  
caffeine poisoning because, after all, they are a small company.


And, by the way, was the toaster on at the same time?

Chuck






Jim W.



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Subject: Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest



At 11:27 PM +0100 11/3/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote:


I have been waiting for the Finale coffeemaker for years.



Let's see, a Finale coffeemaker: Yeah, it would probably take
forever, run on DC power, and every once in a while make your grounds
disappear.

-Randolph Peters
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