Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Lee Dengler
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  It seems there is not a standard for
this.  I am going with the 8th note tuplet.  That seems to be the clearest
choice for this particular piece. 

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I do that all the time, I've always used the dotted eighths, and I've never
had issues with musicians over that notation.

FWIW. Best,

Mike

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Hi All,

I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
their advice.

Lee Dengler

leedeng...@comcast.net <mailto:leedeng...@comcast.net>





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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Michael Dutka
I do that all the time, I've always used the dotted eighths, and I've never
had issues with musicians over that notation.

FWIW. Best,

Mike

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Hi All,

I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
their advice.

Lee Dengler

leedeng...@comcast.net <mailto:leedeng...@comcast.net>





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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:28:31 -0500
From: Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8
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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/5/2017 11:18 AM, Lee Dengler wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
> quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
> 2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
> Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
> their advice.
> 

I agree that either is acceptable but I find the duplet to be easier for 
amateurs and less experienced musicians to read -- it indicates clearly 
at first sight that the rhythm isn't part of the usual compound meter 
feel of 6/8 and so people seem to be more apt to pay attention to it.

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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Lawrence
I've seen both. Personally I prefer the duplet.  I did a concert last year and 
the composer (Elgar) used dotted quavers - it threw the young inexperienced 
players beside me.  As other have said, both seem acceptable. 

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> On 5 Jul 2017, at 6:04 pm, Michael Lawlor  wrote:
> 
> Both are valid and which you choose is down to which you think will get 
> the best result according to the context and style of the piece and 
> players involved.
> 
> Michael Lawlor
> 
> 
>> On 05/07/2017 18:00, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
>> quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
>> 2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
>> Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
>> their advice.
>> 
>> Lee Dengler
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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Michael Lawlor
Both are valid and which you choose is down to which you think will get 
the best result according to the context and style of the piece and 
players involved.

Michael Lawlor


On 05/07/2017 18:00, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
> quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
> 2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
> Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
> their advice.
>
> Lee Dengler

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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Robert Patterson
Two dotted 8ths (without a tuplet) is always acceptable.

According most notation books I've read, the "correct" way to do it with
tuplets is two 4trs in the time of three 8ths. However, I have found in
practice that two 8ths in the time three 8ths is easier for must musicians
to read, so I tend to prefer that if I don't use dotted 8ths.

I've encountered all three in printed music editions.


On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Lee Dengler  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
> quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated
> with
> 2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
> Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
> their advice.
>
> Lee Dengler
>
> leedeng...@comcast.net 
>
>
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[Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

2017-07-05 Thread Lee Dengler
Hi All,

I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
their advice.

Lee Dengler

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