Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
Probably not a great answer, but assuming you have 2012 still installed, you could save as MusicXML, and open in 2014 that way. Once open in 2014, you could probably save it is 2012 format successfully if you wanted to do that. Of course you will lose some formatting through the MusicXML process. On 11/5/2013 4:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014. However I mostly get messages like these: While attempting to access “KB Koral basis 2012.mus” the File Manager reported an error. While attempting to access “EnigmaTemp-1449746605” the File Manager reported an error. Anything I can do? Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
After a reboot, does the same problem occur? ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 € 388 € 3064 D 952 € 818 € 3819 F 952 € 818 € 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 3:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014. However I mostly get messages like these: While attempting to access ³KB Koral basis 2012.mus² the File Manager reported an error. While attempting to access ³EnigmaTemp-1449746605² the File Manager reported an error. Anything I can do? Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
I may have found a reason for the problem: In 2006 I bought the then best Mac Pro desktop, which is still my main workhorse for all serious work also in Finale. It is fast enough for smooth playback, redraws sufficiently fast, and with its two video cards it allows me to run four monitors: one for musical source files, one for tool palettes (especially the score manager), and two for different views of the score worked on. But this Mac Pro cannot run any system newer than OS X 10.7.5. And it has a quite slow start up, so I only use it for when I plan on longer work sessions. Much of my musical proofreading happens in my head while I do other things. When I get in doubt about what I wrote then I open the files for a look on my newer Mac Book Pro (runs the newest system) to which I do back-ups via my LAN. I tried opening a large and complex (for me) FM2012 file in FM2014 on the Mac Book, and that worked all fine. I opened that converted file on my older desktop. When I opened via LAN from the laptop disk it looked all fine, except that the File Manager looked like the Garritan Personal Orchestra sounds had not been set. Playback however was all fine with the right sounds. I then transferred the converted file back to the disk of the desktop Mac and opened it from there. Same result, but for one oddity: The timpani line had blocks of grey artifacts at the bottom of the stave and just below. That part has a lot of rolls notated with the 3 fat strokes tremolo articulation. I could see that the grey blots actually are the very small single note values of the rolls being tightly compressed. I tried printing the file to .pdf and the artifacts do not print to .pdf. Still they look ugly in the Finale window. You likely haven't tested every Finale aspect with older systems, but as 10.7.5 has the main features to run FM2014, it would be nice if the problems with the non-opening FM2012 files and with the said artifacts would be correct in an update. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:16 PM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: After a reboot, does the same problem occur? ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 € 388 € 3064 D 952 € 818 € 3819 F 952 € 818 € 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 3:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014. However I mostly get messages like these: While attempting to access ³KB Koral basis 2012.mus² the File Manager reported an error. While attempting to access ³EnigmaTemp-1449746605² the File Manager reported an error. Anything I can do? Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
The single best thing you can do for your MacPro is move the system to a SSD. Or do a Fusion drive on it. My 2008 MacPro takes about 20 seconds to boot. Second thing you can do is install 10.8 or 10.9. It requires a little bit of work, but it is totally possible. You need to install Chameleon or something similar. There are various threads on the net on how to do this. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1325709 But the single biggest increase you can get is a SSD in it. NIGHT AND DAY performance. NOT Sent from an iCar -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com On Nov 5, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I may have found a reason for the problem: In 2006 I bought the then best Mac Pro desktop, which is still my main workhorse for all serious work also in Finale. It is fast enough for smooth playback, redraws sufficiently fast, and with its two video cards it allows me to run four monitors: one for musical source files, one for tool palettes (especially the score manager), and two for different views of the score worked on. But this Mac Pro cannot run any system newer than OS X 10.7.5. And it has a quite slow start up, so I only use it for when I plan on longer work sessions. Much of my musical proofreading happens in my head while I do other things. When I get in doubt about what I wrote then I open the files for a look on my newer Mac Book Pro (runs the newest system) to which I do back-ups via my LAN. I tried opening a large and complex (for me) FM2012 file in FM2014 on the Mac Book, and that worked all fine. I opened that converted file on my older desktop. When I opened via LAN from the laptop disk it looked all fine, except that the File Manager looked like the Garritan Personal Orchestra sounds had not been set. Playback however was all fine with the right sounds. I then transferred the converted file back to the disk of the desktop Mac and opened it from there. Same result, but for one oddity: The timpani line had blocks of grey artifacts at the bottom of the stave and just below. That part has a lot of rolls notated with the 3 fat strokes tremolo articulation. I could see that the grey blots actually are the very small single note values of the rolls being tightly compressed. I tried printing the file to .pdf and the artifacts do not print to .pdf. Still they look ugly in the Finale window. You likely haven't tested every Finale aspect with older systems, but as 10.7.5 has the main features to run FM2014, it would be nice if the problems with the non-opening FM2012 files and with the said artifacts would be correct in an update. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:16 PM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: After a reboot, does the same problem occur? ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 € 388 € 3064 D 952 € 818 € 3819 F 952 € 818 € 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 3:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014. However I mostly get messages like these: While attempting to access ³KB Koral basis 2012.mus² the File Manager reported an error. While attempting to access ³EnigmaTemp-1449746605² the File Manager reported an error. Anything I can do? Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
I have 2012c working pretty well, and this discussion has convinced me that this is no time to be an early-adopter of the new one... I will let these experts debug it first! Phil. At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote: I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Outside of a dog, a book is a mans best friend. Inside of a dog its too dark to read. Groucho Marx ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
Those artifacts are hidden notes for the playback effect. If you go to View Show and uncheck Hidden Notes and Rests, do they disappear? Thanks! ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 • 388 • 3064 D 952 • 818 • 3819 F 952 • 818 • 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 3:40 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I may have found a reason for the problem: In 2006 I bought the then best Mac Pro desktop, which is still my main workhorse for all serious work also in Finale. It is fast enough for smooth playback, redraws sufficiently fast, and with its two video cards it allows me to run four monitors: one for musical source files, one for tool palettes (especially the score manager), and two for different views of the score worked on. But this Mac Pro cannot run any system newer than OS X 10.7.5. And it has a quite slow start up, so I only use it for when I plan on longer work sessions. Much of my musical proofreading happens in my head while I do other things. When I get in doubt about what I wrote then I open the files for a look on my newer Mac Book Pro (runs the newest system) to which I do back-ups via my LAN. I tried opening a large and complex (for me) FM2012 file in FM2014 on the Mac Book, and that worked all fine. I opened that converted file on my older desktop. When I opened via LAN from the laptop disk it looked all fine, except that the File Manager looked like the Garritan Personal Orchestra sounds had not been set. Playback however was all fine with the right sounds. I then transferred the converted file back to the disk of the desktop Mac and opened it from there. Same result, but for one oddity: The timpani line had blocks of grey artifacts at the bottom of the stave and just below. That part has a lot of rolls notated with the 3 fat strokes tremolo articulation. I could see that the grey blots actually are the very small single note values of the rolls being tightly compressed. I tried printing the file to .pdf and the artifacts do not print to .pdf. Still they look ugly in the Finale window. You likely haven't tested every Finale aspect with older systems, but as 10.7.5 has the main features to run FM2014, it would be nice if the problems with the non-opening FM2012 files and with the said artifacts would be correct in an update. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:16 PM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: After a reboot, does the same problem occur? ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 € 388 € 3064 D 952 € 818 € 3819 F 952 € 818 € 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 3:08 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been able to open one not too complex FM2012 document in FM2014. However I mostly get messages like these: While attempting to access ³KB Koral basis 2012.mus² the File Manager reported an error. While attempting to access ³EnigmaTemp-1449746605² the File Manager reported an error. Anything I can do? Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote: I have 2012c working pretty well, and this discussion has convinced me that this is no time to be an early-adopter of the new one... I will let these experts debug it first! Phil. At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote: I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.” Groucho Marx ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
There is really no reason for a music person to get a forthcoming macpro. It's simple to add an SSD. And then you simply clone your drive to it. Instead of taking 2 minutes to startup, it will take 20 seconds. Instead of 60 seconds to launch a program, it will take 6. Sent from my iSomething -- On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote: I have 2012c working pretty well, and this discussion has convinced me that this is no time to be an early-adopter of the new one... I will let these experts debug it first! Phil. At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote: I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.” Groucho Marx ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
Good advice, the artifacts disappeared after a forced redraw. If only the inability to open the FM2012 files could be solve equally easy. Thanks! Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote: I have 2012c working pretty well, and this discussion has convinced me that this is no time to be an early-adopter of the new one... I will let these experts debug it first! Phil. At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote: I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.” Groucho Marx ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files
Have you been in touch with support about that? ___ Justin Phillips Senior Product Manager M 952 ? 388 ? 3064 D 952 ? 818 ? 3819 F 952 ? 818 ? 3919 www.makemusic.com http://www.makemusic.com/ http://www.makemusic.com/ On 11/5/13, 4:13 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: Good advice, the artifacts disappeared after a forced redraw. If only the inability to open the FM2012 files could be solve equally easy. Thanks! Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't disagree with you Eric, only I am not sure it is worthwhile considering my planning, which is about getting a new Mac Pro with SSD in a year or so. I am no code freak and don't really want doing all the workarounds to optimize this old computer. What i have of work capacity should go into writing scores. Klaus On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote: I have 2012c working pretty well, and this discussion has convinced me that this is no time to be an early-adopter of the new one... I will let these experts debug it first! Phil. At 04:49 PM 11/5/2013, you wrote: I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions. But from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014. I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave. Linda Worsley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.” Groucho Marx ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
