Re: [Fink-devel] Translating man page?
Le 9 févr. 2004, à 10:43, Bertrand Lupart a écrit : [FYI: http://www.macplus.org/magplus/article.php?id_article=5557 Thanks for the link. It is not in the 10.2-gcc3.3 unstable tree, so I'll guess it does not work on 10.3 too (problem with libc and glibc as far as I've read in catopen). Did you try it? These problems shouldn't be hard to fix. Not skilled enough to do it. Morevover it conflicts with manconf I use. Reading the manconf description, you could remove it :) http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/manconf I can remove it on my system, but not on other's. 8888 # Set your man languages here MANLANGDIRS=. fr es # Install the man pages install_man: for d in ($MANLANGDIRS); do # Code for installing the man pages for each language done 8888 Finally, thanks to gnomefr chanel, I applied the solution used in Midnight Commander. Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Translating man page?
Just install a more recent man (fink's one for example) and it will display localised man pages, following your environment settings. Worked for me with fink's man 1.5k. I've found no fink's man, sorry, just manconf which is for Jaguar update and manedit, a graphical editor. Saw that. According to http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/man, the man package is on 0.4.1 and 10.1 only. But i got this on 10.2/unstable on my machine. Dunno why the man package seems to have been discontinued. But if 10.3's man is unable to deal with localized man page, it would be good to reintegrate it :) You could try to pick up the man info file from 10.2/unstable and put it in your local repository. If it works, you could submit it, the hard part may already be done :) I can't do that myself since i'm stuck with 10.2 for now. I cannot demand the user to install a Fink's man package I cannot even find for that purpose. Since the problem is beyond your package, it may be added in the FAQ for example. Moreover it should work also on other systems (RPM and Linux at the moment, but BSD is on its way too). It's totally independant from the packaging system and the OS. It will work until you have a recent man that handle it. I know theoretically how to do it, but I lack dramatically knowledge on languages used in Makefike. [snip] All that is pretty application-specific. It works but it's very inelegant, and I'm not sure how to parameterize it with a MANLANGDIRS = . fr es array for example. Something along this: for d in $(MANLANGDIRS); do mandir=$(mandir)/$(MANLANGDIRS)/man1 8888 #!/bin/sh MANLANGDIRS=. fr es for d in ($MANLANGDIRS); do echo $d; done 8888 That should do the trick. -- Bertrand Pike Language - http://pike.ida.liu.se/ Caudium WebServer - http://caudium.net/ CAMAS WebMail - http://caudium.net/camas/ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Translating man page?
He shouldn't need to. From the man man page: ... More, its man page seems to require the charset in the path: ...in the order of precedence: lang_country.charset lang.charset en.charset Have a look at fink's man or 10.3's, they should handle this better. Same man page as on 10.2.8, rather old (1991). What I understood (I may be wrong) from Linux man pages (sorry for the reference, but they seem to be more advanced in localization), the scheme you mentioned is one of the recommended way to name man pages that ensured correct association of lang/country/charset in the event of country with more than one language and more than one charset per language. That's not the scheme used on Fink, see the dpkg-dev French man pages, it's on the /sw/share/man/fr/man1, it's based on LANG. I don't know how it determines the correct charset. Nevertheless I tend to follow the Fink way of doing it. There is no fink way of doing it nor a Linux way of doing it, just a man way of handling locales. The sybpath for localized man pages are (like mentioned in recent linux man man page): 8888 language[_territory[.character-set[,version]]] 8888 Since territory, character-set and version are optional, the path used by fink and linux are the same. Then even if the LC-xxx and LANG are set up, the loaded man pages are the rooted ones, i.e. the english ones on /sw/share/man/ (default proposed MANPATH) That's because apple's man is too old or buggy and don't support that, even if its man page mention it. Just install a more recent man (fink's one for example) and it will display localised man pages, following your environment settings. Worked for me with fink's man 1.5k. So you have to prepend /sw/share/man/fr/ to the man path, to get the French man pages. This way you'll have the French man pages, if any, then the English ones. Sure, it will work. But that's a hack :) The way to go is to have a recent man that behaves correctly. -- Bertrand Pike Language - http://pike.ida.liu.se/ Caudium WebServer - http://caudium.net/ CAMAS WebMail - http://caudium.net/camas/ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Translating man page?
This package should install the translated man pages into
%p/share/man/{lang}/man[1-8]
Oh; so simple. Sorry I'm always looking for something not so obvious.
Then I just need to put a notice in the info file for the user so that
he prepends the path to his locale man pages to MANPATH.
He shouldn't need to. From the man man page:
8888
By default, man searches for a localized manpage in a set of
locale subdirectories of each manpath(1) component.
Locale name is taken from the first of three environment
variables with a nonempty value: LC_ALL, LC_CTYPE, or LANG,
in the specified order.
8888
Your user should only need to set its environment variables to the correct
locales he uses for getting localized man pages.
That's the theory, but it seems it doen't work on 10.2.
A quick test and ktrace shows up 10.2.8's man don't give a fuck about that.
More, its man page seems to require the charset in the path:
8888
Otherwise, man will search in the following subdirectories,
in the order of precedence:
lang_country.charset
lang.charset
en.charset
8888
Have a look at fink's man or 10.3's, they should handle this better.
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Bertrand
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Re: [Fink-devel] Translating man page?
Is there a way to install translated man pages?
I've seen this is done for dpkg-deb. Is there a way for a package (via
Fink) to install say es,fr,... man pages?
This package should install the translated man pages into
%p/share/man/{lang}/man[1-8]
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Bertrand
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[Fink-devel] Translating man page?
Is there a way to install translated man pages? I've seen this is done for dpkg-deb. Is there a way for a package (via Fink) to install say es,fr,... man pages? Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
