Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-29 Thread William McCallum

On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 06:36  PM, Ben Hines wrote:


Anyone is welcome to check out submitted packages on the submission 
tracker, even if you cant commit it, you can check the packages for 
obvious things like shared library dependencies,
 fink validate errors on .deb file or info file etc, etc, etc. I get 
rather tired of explaining the same things to everyone. :

What do you mean by obvious things like shared library dependencies 
and etc. etc. etc.? I know about fink validate. I've read the policy 
on shared libraries, so I think I would know what to look for in a 
package that builds them, but I'm not sure if that's what you are 
referring to. Maybe you mean that in general one should check that all 
dependencies are mentioned in the appropriate Depends or BuildDepends 
field?

Regards,
		Bill



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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-27 Thread Jason Deraleau
 
  Works fine for me in chimera. :)
 
  Matt
 
 In between crashes ;-) Sorry...couldn't resist ;-)


I don't think I've had Chimera crash on me since .6 release. And I run
nightlies

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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-27 Thread Max Horn
At 17:36 Uhr -0800 25.11.2002, Ben Hines wrote:

Anyone is welcome to check out submitted packages on the submission 
tracker, even if you cant commit it, you can check the packages for 
obvious things like shared library dependencies, fink validate 
errors on .deb file or info file etc, etc, etc.

Most definitly agreed!



 I get rather tired of explaining the same things to everyone. :)


Same here. We really need a good packaging HOWOT that summarizes this 
all; then we add a standard answer to the tracker that points to that 
HOWTO.


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Re: packaging Howto -- (was)[Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-27 Thread David
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Same here. We really need a good packaging HOWOT that summarizes this 
all; then we add a standard answer to the tracker that points to that 
HOWTO.

Since I do not do any packaging and know little about it, it would be 
nice if you could supply me with the key steps. I can write the text up 
for you, but you need to tell me the main issues and then review what I 
write.
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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-26 Thread Ben Hines

On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 06:05  PM, Jeremy Erwin wrote:

On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 08:36  PM, Ben Hines wrote:

Anyone is welcome to check out submitted packages on the submission tracker, even if you cant commit it, you can check the packages for obvious things like shared library dependencies, "fink validate" errors on .deb file or info file etc, etc, etc. I get rather tired of explaining the same things to everyone. :)

-Ben

This would be a lot easier if OmniWeb stopped calling everything it downloaded from the trackers "download.php". Can this be fixed?



I am incredibly annoyed by that as well. It is a bug in their server, i believe, but they don't seem to care:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=568837group_id=1atid=21

The way I do it now is a pain but it has become second nature:

Select the fliename, copy, right click download, select "save link
to", paste the name, and select a directory.

That reminds me, i was going to make a Watson UI for the sf tracker because of this :)

-Ben


Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-26 Thread Matt Stephenson

This would be a lot easier if OmniWeb stopped calling everything it downloaded from the trackers "download.php". Can this be fixed?



I am incredibly annoyed by that as well. It is a bug in their server, i believe, but they don't seem to care:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=568837group_id=1atid=21

The way I do it now is a pain but it has become second nature:

Select the fliename, copy, right click download, select "save link
to", paste the name, and select a directory.

That reminds me, i was going to make a Watson UI for the sf tracker because of this :)

Works fine for me in chimera. :)

Matt


[Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-25 Thread David R. Morrison
The discussion earlier, plus some private emails I received, got me thinking
some more about what Fink needs at this point.

Actually, it's not *just* that we need volunteers; we need a more effective
way of using the talents of people who are willing to volunteer.

Just to give one example: the way that most of us in the Fink developer
group got there was that we made some packages, submitted them to Fink,
and eventually it became less trouble for the Fink-ers to give us commit
access than to process our submissions.

That procedure is not working so well right now, because the current
Fink developers haven't found the time to keep up with all of the 
submissions.  This means that the talents of many people are going
unrecognized and unacknowledged, and of course after a while they
drop out.

Please don't drop out, if this describes you!  We'll try to work out
better ways of incorporating your efforts into Fink.

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-25 Thread David
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On Montag, November 25, 2002, at 10:03  Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:


Please don't drop out, if this describes you!  We'll try to work out
better ways of incorporating your efforts into Fink.


I can only attest to what David has already been saying. I joined fink 
for the sole purpose of helping and now I think I found a way to do 
that. I will do my very best and surely invest more than 20 years of 
experience into this project, I will try to make this more efficient 
than it already is, but I will NEED your help.

My first question is:

Would you all be willing to fill out a survey?

The survey would ask some questions such as:

Who you are
What your main interest is
What interests you in fink (packaging, documentation, coding etc etc)

That would help me to determine, what is most suited within fink for 
you.

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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremy Erwin

On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 08:36  PM, Ben Hines wrote:


Anyone is welcome to check out submitted packages on the submission 
tracker, even if you cant commit it, you can check the packages for 
obvious things like shared library dependencies, fink validate 
errors on .deb file or info file etc, etc, etc. I get rather tired of 
explaining the same things to everyone. :)

-Ben

This would be a lot easier if OmniWeb stopped calling everything it 
downloaded from the trackers download.php. Can this be fixed?



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Re: [Fink-devel] future of Fink

2002-11-25 Thread William McCallum
On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 06:36  PM, Ben Hines wrote:


Anyone is welcome to check out submitted packages on the submission 
tracker, even if you cant commit it, you can check the packages for 
obvious things like shared library dependencies, fink validate 
errors on .deb file or info file etc, etc, etc. I get rather tired of 
explaining the same things to everyone. :)

-Ben


I have the same problem with my students. I've been explaining calculus 
to them for 20 years, and they still don't get it.

Bill



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