RE: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for.
I wasn't referring to the deletion of the site. I was talking about the possible unauthorized access of the ftp site. Thanks for the link. I will be sure to keep ahold of that incase I get into a similar problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Hotchkiss Sent: 08 December 2008 18:58 To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for. Eamons point about the computer misuse act is not strictly true - you own the site unless a contract exists explicitly licensing full ownership of everything up payment completion. My advise however is to leave the site up and get Thomas Higgins on the case. He's BRILLIANT and has a ni on 100% record for recovering debts. He's completely ruthless and gets results http://www.thomas-higgins.co.uk/ Trust me - use these guys and you'll have you money before the month is out -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piers Cowburn Sent: 08 December 2008 11:51 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for. I've been in this situation before and done the same as Paul, it ended up going to a small claims court and the client didn't even turn up for the hearing. I got paid and the costs were covered by the client. Piers On 8 Dec 2008, at 11:38, Paul Steven wrote: Hi Stephen I had a similar situation about a year ago and in this case I had no contract but just emails from the client agreeing on the cost for the work. Anyway I simply made a claim via https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp and I won my case. It was really simple and will cost you nothing as you get all your costs paid for by the customer if you win. I would be reluctant to take the site down as doing so will then mean the customer has nothing to pay for. By leaving the site up and running, you have fulfilled your obligations. Anyway good luck!! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Matthews Sent: 08 December 2008 11:03 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for. What are my rights ( in the UK ) for taking down a site which has not been paid for? The owner of the company is happy with his site, but is not coughing up. I still have FTP access. He says the site took too long, and makes lots of excuses for not paying - which do not tally. He changed the site drastically at least three times - I think it took too long too, due to this. He is updating the news section and other sections whenever he has new material. I would be interested in your thoughts. This person won an award for being a top business man this year - is this what you have to do to be a top business man - screw people? I am not the kind of person to take this action really, but I may consider it. Thanks S ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest
ta On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Romuald Quantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, SVN are there: http://www.soundstep.com/blog/downloads/somaui/ Romu www.soundstep.com allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: do you have an svn repo or a google code area? On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Brenda Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great minds think alike! I had the same vision in my head -- especially since my son works in the SOMA district for an ad agency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Mcfarland Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:50 AM To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest Living near San Francisco, at first glance I thought this thread was going to be about a protest in the South-of-Market (SOMA) neighborhood. I began to visualize angry FlashCoders taking to the streets, demanding (a better IDE?) (a return to some AS2 features?) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
I think some ActionScript developers simply prefer the use of regular setVar() getVar() instance methods instead of the AS3 get set keywords because they know what's going on in their own code. I remember going to Colin Moock's AS3 1 day crash course last year in Toronto and he said that while there was nothing wrong with either method, he preferred regular getVar() setVar() instance methods because he felt more in control over his own code. With AS3 get set keywords, AS probably does a bunch of things in the back that you're not aware of to make it work as expected. This is probably the same kind of debate as the tabs vs spaces debate. Both ways are OK, simply stick with the one you prefer... --- On Tue, 12/9/08, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 6:28 AM i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest
do you have an svn repo or a google code area? On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Brenda Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Great minds think alike! I had the same vision in my head -- especially since my son works in the SOMA district for an ad agency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Mcfarland Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:50 AM To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest Living near San Francisco, at first glance I thought this thread was going to be about a protest in the South-of-Market (SOMA) neighborhood. I began to visualize angry FlashCoders taking to the streets, demanding (a better IDE?) (a return to some AS2 features?) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for.
the thing about going through a specialised debt collecting solicitor is that they start very polite - they usually have 2 rounds of letters to send to the client before they start getting heavy and to be honest, if it comes to that, you're better off without the client a bad client will be more trouble than the work is worth, even in troubled times. They will abuse your relationship, demand unreasonable amounts of unpaid extra work and monopolise your time so that you start to neglect your good-paying clients and probably start to ask for long-time client discounts (like you owe them something for giving you the work). Saying that you might lose possible future work would sound like a blessing with a client like that i have had a client like this and if i'd known about the debt collectors, i'd have phoned them in a shot. a On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: But having the power to access to the server through FTP doesnt make the coder a good guy either :) On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:51 PM, laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having no contract does not make the none payer a good guy, he apparently does not want to pay. And if he have problems I guess the coder have too, so he should deal with his own stuff as we do here and if he can't he should commnicate about it. But I don't think the problem is here. The best thing is to call a lawyer that will get in contact with him, you won't even have to get to court, the guy will pay straight away. As far as he can't handle dirty hands I guess...but you will win. L Helmut Granda a écrit : Im with Doctor H here, We don't know the details or both parties information about the project, if you are a freelancer/contractor this might harm you in the long run. Granted, you might get the money you are owed but in the end of the day it might be 1+ (many more) possible non clients. Remember that the bad press travels a lot faster than good rep and good rep is always hard to come by. If I read correctly you don't have a written contract which in the end is also a bad practice and you have to take your losses. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:13 PM, dr.ache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever thought about what that makes for your image? I would encourage you to stay polite and willing to accept their delay as long as it is possible for you. You can deny to work with this client in the future anyways but do not threaten somebody with court or anything before there is no other way around. Have always in mind that there can be a reason you could not even imagine behind that delay. You are dealing with people - just try to image this guy really has problems and dont want you to know about that, or anybody else. When you take him to the court you might get your money but a very very bad image in the head of that guy,too. The other way round - if he finally pays you and he saw that you are flexible he might recommend you the next time. Have the good parts about people in mind, dont make assumtions. My cents... Pete Hotchkiss schrieb: Eamons point about the computer misuse act is not strictly true - you own the site unless a contract exists explicitly licensing full ownership of everything up payment completion. My advise however is to leave the site up and get Thomas Higgins on the case. He's BRILLIANT and has a ni on 100% record for recovering debts. He's completely ruthless and gets results http://www.thomas-higgins.co.uk/ Trust me - use these guys and you'll have you money before the month is out -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piers Cowburn Sent: 08 December 2008 11:51 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for. I've been in this situation before and done the same as Paul, it ended up going to a small claims court and the client didn't even turn up for the hearing. I got paid and the costs were covered by the client. Piers On 8 Dec 2008, at 11:38, Paul Steven wrote: Hi Stephen I had a similar situation about a year ago and in this case I had no contract but just emails from the client agreeing on the cost for the work. Anyway I simply made a claim via https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp and I won my case. It was really simple and will cost you nothing as you get all your costs paid for by the customer if you win. I would be reluctant to take the site down as doing so will then mean the customer has nothing to pay for. By leaving the site up and running, you have fulfilled your obligations. Anyway good luck!! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Matthews Sent: 08 December 2008 11:03 To:
Re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest
yes, SVN are there: http://www.soundstep.com/blog/downloads/somaui/ Romu www.soundstep.com allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: do you have an svn repo or a google code area? On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Brenda Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Great minds think alike! I had the same vision in my head -- especially since my son works in the SOMA district for an ad agency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Mcfarland Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:50 AM To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: re: [Flashcoders] Soma Protest Living near San Francisco, at first glance I thought this thread was going to be about a protest in the South-of-Market (SOMA) neighborhood. I began to visualize angry FlashCoders taking to the streets, demanding (a better IDE?) (a return to some AS2 features?) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Since I like FlashDevelop, with a keyboard shortcut and a click I create setters and getters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Yes I prefer FD also, but what is the shortcut for getters and setters?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric E. Dolecki Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 15:16 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Since I like FlashDevelop, with a keyboard shortcut and a click I create setters and getters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] video seek ability
hi all, I need to develop a seek function in the video player. the user will be able to drag the progress bar going backwards or forward in the video timeline. I found this article: http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2006/5/10/flvkeyframes http://polygeek.com/211_flex_seeking-in-flash-video it's very good and helpful but still I have some doubts. I know that the seek function is affected by the keyframe number when the flv was created, as shwon in the article. my questions are: - what's the logic behind the seek bar to enable the video to keep showing the video keyframes when draging? why if I start to drag, stop in any postion (already loaded) and don't release the mouse the video keep shaking? the ability of drag the video timeline head to a unloaded position and the video stop loading the previous content and start again from the position you dragged the head, I'll need a flash streaming server. if the video is hosted in a non-streaming server the normal behavior when you drag the head to a unloaded position is that the player will wait the video loads until that moment and once loaded it will start playing, is that correct? thanks for your help. rodrigo. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
select the variable, ctrl-shift-1 ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Cor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I prefer FD also, but what is the shortcut for getters and setters?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric E. Dolecki Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 15:16 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Since I like FlashDevelop, with a keyboard shortcut and a click I create setters and getters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
The magic Context code completion hotkey, which by default is Ctrl-Shift-1, when your cursor is over a variable declaration. This awesome hotkey also does cool stuff like generates an event handler when your cursor is inside an addEventListener declaration... definitely check it out in the FD docs! On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Cor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I prefer FD also, but what is the shortcut for getters and setters?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric E. Dolecki Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 15:16 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Since I like FlashDevelop, with a keyboard shortcut and a click I create setters and getters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Oh, I use that one to create functions and yes a getter/setter is also a function. My bad.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric E. Dolecki Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 15:37 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own select the variable, ctrl-shift-1 ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Cor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I prefer FD also, but what is the shortcut for getters and setters?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric E. Dolecki Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 15:16 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Since I like FlashDevelop, with a keyboard shortcut and a click I create setters and getters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm still in the middle. I used to use getMyVariable setMyVariable for everything, now I usually use public variables for entity/value objects. I still hate not being able to see whether something is a variable or function, so for everything else than very simple objects I prefer setMyVariable getMyVariable instead of get set. I find it way easier to read back my code that way, so it depends on whether I know whether I am going to have to read it back or not ;). greetz JC On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have to agree - i use the built in ones and can't see any benefit from using bespoke ones apart from maybe being able to use the variable name i want rather than adding extra characters to it (although i use a leading underscore for class variables anyway) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Actionscript getters and setters. Because I can start off using ordinary public properties, and change them into getters and setters if I need more control/notification without changing any of the code that _uses_ my class. In order to achieve that otherwise, I'd have to make a getValue() and setValue() for every single public property (as is done in Java). And a fair few of those would simply be this._property=value (setter) or return this._property (getter) i.e. essentially just placeholder methods that bloat the code. The beauty of the actionscript get and set functions is that they are indistinguishable from public properties from the outside of the class. It's a huge improvement over Java. Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys quick poll - Do you use the actionscript getter/setter functions or do you make your own, and why. I've noticed with a lot of the public domain code (like SWFAddress, for instance) that you see a lot of 'public function getVariable()' type getters instead of using the flash 'public function get variable()' adobe recommended getters(and setters) and i was wondering why people do this? thanks a ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Ooh - never knew about that. :-) You learn something every day! Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jonathan howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The magic Context code completion hotkey, which by default is Ctrl-Shift-1, when your cursor is over a variable declaration. This awesome hotkey also does cool stuff like generates an event handler when your cursor is inside an addEventListener declaration... definitely check it out in the FD docs! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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When you open the Startpage of FD you find some more shortcuts. HTH Cor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 16:14 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Ooh - never knew about that. :-) You learn something every day! Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jonathan howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The magic Context code completion hotkey, which by default is Ctrl-Shift-1, when your cursor is over a variable declaration. This awesome hotkey also does cool stuff like generates an event handler when your cursor is inside an addEventListener declaration... definitely check it out in the FD docs! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Wow I didn't know that about FD. Gonna have to start using it. I still find myself wanting to use Flex Dev but that's another thread. It's nice to see discussions like this. I feel like some things are foregone conclusions and that I'm late to the part but hey, even Grant Skinner is blogging about cuddling braceshttp://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2008/11/curly_braces_to.html. For me, it depends on the complexity of the logic involved in calculating the return. If I'm dealing with a sensible property such as the left boundary for a group of display children, conditionals tend to read cleaner when I can just write: if(this.mouseX grid.left) rather than if(this.mouseX grid.getLeft()). If the property requires more complex code in order to return a value such as looping over an array, I use getVal(). getters and setters also have certain syntax requirements so I also avoid using them whenever I need to do something slightly different such as use multiple parameters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Cor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you open the Startpage of FD you find some more shortcuts. HTH Cor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 16:14 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Ooh - never knew about that. :-) You learn something every day! Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jonathan howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The magic Context code completion hotkey, which by default is Ctrl-Shift-1, when your cursor is over a variable declaration. This awesome hotkey also does cool stuff like generates an event handler when your cursor is inside an addEventListener declaration... definitely check it out in the FD docs! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
I think the Control-Shift-1 functionality is fairly new -- I only got it working after I upgraded FD to Beta 9. But yes, it rocks. You can also use it on your implements Interface text to generate placeholder functions for everything in that interface. Try it! Personally, I tend to use getters and setters only when I'm making a class that primarily functions like a Perl hash (or a Python dictionary or whatever the kids are using these days). If I use it to much with other classes, I start to worry that I've created public variables when I shouldn't have, and it constantly distracts me. --T On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joel Stransky [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Wow I didn't know that about FD. Gonna have to start using it. I still find myself wanting to use Flex Dev but that's another thread. It's nice to see discussions like this. I feel like some things are foregone conclusions and that I'm late to the part but hey, even Grant Skinner is blogging about cuddling braceshttp://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2008/11/curly_braces_to.html . For me, it depends on the complexity of the logic involved in calculating the return. If I'm dealing with a sensible property such as the left boundary for a group of display children, conditionals tend to read cleaner when I can just write: if(this.mouseX grid.left) rather than if(this.mouseX grid.getLeft()). If the property requires more complex code in order to return a value such as looping over an array, I use getVal(). getters and setters also have certain syntax requirements so I also avoid using them whenever I need to do something slightly different such as use multiple parameters. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Cor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you open the Startpage of FD you find some more shortcuts. HTH Cor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: dinsdag 9 december 2008 16:14 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own Ooh - never knew about that. :-) You learn something every day! Ian On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jonathan howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The magic Context code completion hotkey, which by default is Ctrl-Shift-1, when your cursor is over a variable declaration. This awesome hotkey also does cool stuff like generates an event handler when your cursor is inside an addEventListener declaration... definitely check it out in the FD docs! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 9-12-2008 9:59 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] as 3 : video class : problem with loading new URLs (playlist)... old video won't stop loading.
Hi all! My client asked me to build a video player with a play list. I'm building it with AS3. The player works fine when I load the first movie... but when I try to play another, the old video seems to keep loading. I've been trying to .close() the video, netstream and the URLRequest when I call a new video, but nothing seems to work properly. Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks. -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com http://www.jointjam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] RE: AS3: video class........won't stop loading.
Sounds like a mess to me ;)
No honestly, I think nobody can give you an answer on this without a
core code snippet from you side.
Try to call something like this on the end of the previous vid:
private function RESET():void {
if (video.stage) {
video.attachNetStream(null)
video.clear()
}
if (stream) {
stream.close();
}
and when you want to play the new video
private function newStream(streamUrl):void {
RESET()
stream =* new NetStream(*connection);
stream.bufferTime = 5;
stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
netStatusHandler);
stream.client = this;
video.attachNetStream(stream);
stream.play(streamUrl);
}
Latcho
Carl Welch wrote:
Hi all!
My client asked me to build a video player with a play list. I'm
building it with AS3. The player works fine when I load the first
movie... but when I try to play another, the old video seems to keep
loading. I've been trying to .close() the video, netstream and the
URLRequest when I call a new video, but nothing seems to work
properly. Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks.
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Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
For clarity, they're referred to as implicit and explicit.
get prop / set prop = implicit
getProp() / setProp = explicit
In AS2, it made a difference because implicits were available right away,
whereas explicits were not available for 1 frame. This limitation is not
present in AS3.
Basically, implicit implies properties of a class, whereas explicit implies
methods of a class.
I opt for implicit over explicit because this:
foo.prop = value;
makes more sense than
foo.setProp(value);
I leave methods for methods, not properties.
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't have
public vars in a class. People who do this
private var _foo:Boolean;
public function get foo():Boolean { return _foo; }
public function set foo(value:Boolean):void { _foo = value; }
are masturbating and I'm not impressed by their bloated ego...I mean code. ;)
Unless something needs to happen immediately within the class when you set or
get a prop (i.e. a state change), it's fine for it to be a public var. It's
faster, it's less bloat and most of us aren't writing large applications with a
bunch of other developers. Some of these rules were created for when good
coders are forced to work with bad coders and the good ones need to protect
their code from the bad ones. When it's just you and a couple other devs, and
you're all competent, you don't need all these checks and balances that are
nothing more than compensation for people who you wish you didn't have to code
with. /rant ;)
On the FlashDevelop tip:
http://www.stevensacks.net/2008/02/21/flashdevelop-code-generation/
http://www.stevensacks.net/2008/04/30/flashdevelop-flexbuilder-style-error-reporting-on-save/
FlashDevelop's auto-completion and code generation are better than anything out
there (for AS, at least). And just to be clear, you don't need to select
anything for code generation, the cursor just needs to be anywhere within the
word, or at the end of the statement.
private var _test:Boolean;
If the cursor is after the semicolon, you can press the shortcut (I use ALT+2 on
Windows, CMD+2 on OSX) and it will bring up the code generation options. The
event generation is really valuable, as well. I save so much time with it.
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Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
+1 :-)
Use public methods when it's a method, public properties when it's a property.
Simple as that..
explicit should only be used for internal things to work, usually called by an
implicit setter:
private var _data:Object;
private function setData():void {
// do stuff with _data
}
public function set data(value:Object):void {
_data = value;
setData();
}
And a *big* +1 for this:
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't have
public vars in a class.
regards,
Muzak
- Original Message -
From: Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
For clarity, they're referred to as implicit and explicit.
get prop / set prop = implicit
getProp() / setProp = explicit
In AS2, it made a difference because implicits were available right away,
whereas explicits were not available for 1 frame. This limitation is not
present in AS3.
Basically, implicit implies properties of a class, whereas explicit implies
methods of a class.
I opt for implicit over explicit because this:
foo.prop = value;
makes more sense than
foo.setProp(value);
I leave methods for methods, not properties.
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't have
public vars in a class. People who do this
private var _foo:Boolean;
public function get foo():Boolean { return _foo; }
public function set foo(value:Boolean):void { _foo = value; }
are masturbating and I'm not impressed by their bloated ego...I mean code. ;)
Unless something needs to happen immediately within the class when you set or
get a prop (i.e. a state change), it's fine for it to be a public var. It's
faster, it's less bloat and most of us aren't writing large applications with a
bunch of other developers. Some of these rules were created for when good
coders are forced to work with bad coders and the good ones need to protect
their code from the bad ones. When it's just you and a couple other devs, and
you're all competent, you don't need all these checks and balances that are
nothing more than compensation for people who you wish you didn't have to code
with. /rant ;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] video seek ability
Here's what you need to know to make a good scrubber for progressive download FLVs. 1. You need a background that shows the entire width of the bar. 2. You need a progress bar that shows how much of the video has loaded. The width of this bar is the background.width * (ns.bytesLoaded / ns.bytesTotal); 3. You need a playback bar or shuttle which is updated on a timer. The width (bar) or position (shuttle) is the background.width * (ns.time / ns.metaData.duration). 4. You put the mouse events on the progress bar. On press, you set a flag that you're seeking (so the update doesn't move the bar/shuttle but does keep the progress bar updated), you pause the video, and you start a timer that calls an update function. In the update function, you track the mouseX and constrain the value (via Math.min and Math.max) to values between 0 and the progress bar width, to which you set the position of the shuttle or width of the playback bar. You take the position/width of the bar, divide it by the background.width, multiply that by the duration of the ns, round it, and that's your seek time. When you release, you unpause the video (assuming the video was playing when you pressed, you'll need to keep a separate flag for that). If you do it like I've described, then the dragging is always constrained by the current loaded amount, not the loaded amount at the time you pressed, and you don't get that ugly stutter when you stay in one place (there's no reason to not pause the video when scrubbing). ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
on the other hand using public vars makes it more difficult if you have
to add an extra parse or an extra function on the returning var for ex.
like array.join() or ad some html wrapping around a string
Then you don't have to redeclare public _unaltered var to an altered
getter and setter and you don't have to go to all off you class local
code to change between altered / _unaltered;
You just add in the extra functionallity in the getter/setter.
As for FlashDevelop it is only ctrl-shift-1. That gives me no time to
masturbate.
Latcho
Steven Sacks wrote:
For clarity, they're referred to as implicit and explicit.
get prop / set prop = implicit
getProp() / setProp = explicit
In AS2, it made a difference because implicits were available right
away, whereas explicits were not available for 1 frame. This
limitation is not present in AS3.
Basically, implicit implies properties of a class, whereas explicit
implies methods of a class.
I opt for implicit over explicit because this:
foo.prop = value;
makes more sense than
foo.setProp(value);
I leave methods for methods, not properties.
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't
have public vars in a class. People who do this
private var _foo:Boolean;
public function get foo():Boolean { return _foo; }
public function set foo(value:Boolean):void { _foo = value; }
are masturbating and I'm not impressed by their bloated ego...I mean
code. ;)
Unless something needs to happen immediately within the class when you
set or get a prop (i.e. a state change), it's fine for it to be a
public var. It's faster, it's less bloat and most of us aren't
writing large applications with a bunch of other developers. Some of
these rules were created for when good coders are forced to work with
bad coders and the good ones need to protect their code from the bad
ones. When it's just you and a couple other devs, and you're all
competent, you don't need all these checks and balances that are
nothing more than compensation for people who you wish you didn't have
to code with. /rant ;)
On the FlashDevelop tip:
http://www.stevensacks.net/2008/02/21/flashdevelop-code-generation/
http://www.stevensacks.net/2008/04/30/flashdevelop-flexbuilder-style-error-reporting-on-save/
FlashDevelop's auto-completion and code generation are better than
anything out there (for AS, at least). And just to be clear, you
don't need to select anything for code generation, the cursor just
needs to be anywhere within the word, or at the end of the statement.
private var _test:Boolean;
If the cursor is after the semicolon, you can press the shortcut (I
use ALT+2 on Windows, CMD+2 on OSX) and it will bring up the code
generation options. The event generation is really valuable, as
well. I save so much time with it.
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Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
ps we're probably not the first ones discussing this old subject, has n1
found some good sources/references?
Most of the old CS textbooks sentence you to hell for using public variables
so let's not refer to those ;)
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Hans Wichman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey,
I'm not against using public variables, but I dont like using get set as
you did below *if *setting the data has sideeffects outside the area of
validation.
If you are setting a property and you want to test or verify it or
whatever, I can imagine using set get.
If you are setting a property and it causes state changes or whatever I
like to use an explicit method. Yeah you can mouse over it, codeinspect it
or whatever and see it's an implicit get/setter, but just looking at an
interface I find it easer to have either public methods or properties and
not something in between that lends itself to misuse (ie this set data WAS
only validating, but damn now it needs to change state as well, ah heck,
lets cram in there instead of )
So for me it's usually either a public var or a method.
And there's more behind it than good coders being forced to work with bad
coders at least as far as the public variables are concerned, it has to do
with the whole mumbo jumbo of the OO asking versus simply taking. An object
giving access to its internals instead of an object grabbing access,
although in a lot of cases it doesn't pay to make such an academic
distinction.
I liked the clear explanation Steven gave, although comparing it to
masturbating sounds a bit like promoting it ;0)
JC
And a *big* +1 for this:
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't
have public vars in a class.
regards,
Muzak
- Original Message - From: Steven Sacks
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
For clarity, they're referred to as implicit and explicit.
get prop / set prop = implicit
getProp() / setProp = explicit
In AS2, it made a difference because implicits were available right away,
whereas explicits were not available for 1 frame. This limitation is not
present in AS3.
Basically, implicit implies properties of a class, whereas explicit
implies methods of a class.
I opt for implicit over explicit because this:
foo.prop = value;
makes more sense than
foo.setProp(value);
I leave methods for methods, not properties.
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't
have public vars in a class. People who do this
private var _foo:Boolean;
public function get foo():Boolean { return _foo; }
public function set foo(value:Boolean):void { _foo = value; }
are masturbating and I'm not impressed by their bloated ego...I mean
code. ;)
Unless something needs to happen immediately within the class when you
set or get a prop (i.e. a state change), it's fine for it to be a public
var. It's faster, it's less bloat and most of us aren't writing large
applications with a bunch of other developers. Some of these rules were
created for when good coders are forced to work with bad coders and the good
ones need to protect their code from the bad ones. When it's just you and a
couple other devs, and you're all competent, you don't need all these checks
and balances that are nothing more than compensation for people who you wish
you didn't have to code with. /rant ;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
Hey,
I'm not against using public variables, but I dont like using get set as you
did below *if *setting the data has sideeffects outside the area of
validation.
If you are setting a property and you want to test or verify it or whatever,
I can imagine using set get.
If you are setting a property and it causes state changes or whatever I like
to use an explicit method. Yeah you can mouse over it, codeinspect it or
whatever and see it's an implicit get/setter, but just looking at an
interface I find it easer to have either public methods or properties and
not something in between that lends itself to misuse (ie this set data WAS
only validating, but damn now it needs to change state as well, ah heck,
lets cram in there instead of )
So for me it's usually either a public var or a method.
And there's more behind it than good coders being forced to work with bad
coders at least as far as the public variables are concerned, it has to do
with the whole mumbo jumbo of the OO asking versus simply taking. An object
giving access to its internals instead of an object grabbing access,
although in a lot of cases it doesn't pay to make such an academic
distinction.
I liked the clear explanation Steven gave, although comparing it to
masturbating sounds a bit like promoting it ;0)
JC
And a *big* +1 for this:
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't have
public vars in a class.
regards,
Muzak
- Original Message - From: Steven Sacks
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To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] use get / set functions or make your own
For clarity, they're referred to as implicit and explicit.
get prop / set prop = implicit
getProp() / setProp = explicit
In AS2, it made a difference because implicits were available right away,
whereas explicits were not available for 1 frame. This limitation is not
present in AS3.
Basically, implicit implies properties of a class, whereas explicit
implies methods of a class.
I opt for implicit over explicit because this:
foo.prop = value;
makes more sense than
foo.setProp(value);
I leave methods for methods, not properties.
That being said, I don't abide by the retarded rule that you shouldn't
have public vars in a class. People who do this
private var _foo:Boolean;
public function get foo():Boolean { return _foo; }
public function set foo(value:Boolean):void { _foo = value; }
are masturbating and I'm not impressed by their bloated ego...I mean code.
;)
Unless something needs to happen immediately within the class when you set
or get a prop (i.e. a state change), it's fine for it to be a public var.
It's faster, it's less bloat and most of us aren't writing large
applications with a bunch of other developers. Some of these rules were
created for when good coders are forced to work with bad coders and the good
ones need to protect their code from the bad ones. When it's just you and a
couple other devs, and you're all competent, you don't need all these checks
and balances that are nothing more than compensation for people who you wish
you didn't have to code with. /rant ;)
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