RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread The Helmsman
I started to hate it!

And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more 
correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks 
good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release 
:)

BTW... You wrote:  Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... 
. May I ask you why?

Igor Vasiliev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1?
I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they
didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /:
instead of _parent and _root

On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now speaking about flash 9 -

 I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player:

 flash 6 to 8 swf files with  as1 or keyframe animation just performs
 slower.
 If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9  i need to
 export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows
 them rather ok.

 at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player.

 Have anybody experienced something similar?

 Cheers,
 B) Søren

 On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:

  Why to be specific in such a question?
  I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
  Perhaps cuz I do only games...
 
  On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
 
  Curious,
  Alias
 
  On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

I cant believe someone really understand a reason of hate something. Usually
if you think something as a reason then it is an aliby or something to leave
you to think you are rigth. Yes. There is some reasons really could be told
like bad happens or something. But for Flashkit boards I m not sure. Maybe I
m too selfish maybe my eenglich was bad.

On 2/14/07, The Helmsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I started to hate it!

And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more
correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it
lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a
release :)

BTW... You wrote:  Every post on flashkit and similar just make me
angree... . May I ask you why?

Igor Vasiliev
a.k.a. The Helmsman

Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel
phone: +972-36471884
fax: +972-36472722

web: www.mixtv.tv
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1?
I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua
they
didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../:
/:
instead of _parent and _root

On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now speaking about flash 9 -

 I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player:

 flash 6 to 8 swf files with  as1 or keyframe animation just performs
 slower.
 If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9  i need to
 export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows
 them rather ok.

 at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player.

 Have anybody experienced something similar?

 Cheers,
 B) Søren

 On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:

  Why to be specific in such a question?
  I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
  Perhaps cuz I do only games...
 
  On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
 
  Curious,
  Alias
 
  On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread dan
What flash 9 needs is a good help file and examples like in the ide of flash
8
Then things will start to clear up :) I hope




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Helmsman
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:10 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

I started to hate it!

And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more
correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it
lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a
release :)

BTW... You wrote:  Every post on flashkit and similar just make me
angree... . May I ask you why?

Igor Vasiliev
a.k.a. The Helmsman

Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel
phone: +972-36471884
fax: +972-36472722

web: www.mixtv.tv
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy
Shklyaev
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1?
I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they
didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /:
instead of _parent and _root

On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now speaking about flash 9 -

 I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player:

 flash 6 to 8 swf files with  as1 or keyframe animation just performs
 slower.
 If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9  i need to
 export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows
 them rather ok.

 at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player.

 Have anybody experienced something similar?

 Cheers,
 B) Søren

 On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:

  Why to be specific in such a question?
  I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
  Perhaps cuz I do only games...
 
  On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
 
  Curious,
  Alias
 
  On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Søren Christensen

I skipped that :/ habit with the transition to flash 5 back then.

But sometimes between bigger projects, flash banner campaigns lands on my
table and for the most part they need to be compiled in flash 6 format.

But after some testing it is not limited to flash 6 but is also 7 and 8
exported as AS2.
Though it seems to be a osx intel issue only.

Just pretty weird that the the fp8 inside flash 8 via rosetta  is performing
better than the native fp9

Some as3 examples i have seen here and there performs rather bad as well -
anything less than around 60 fps or the elements move with very jerky
motion, movements that would have been smooth with max 30fps in fp8- (it is
not a cpu/ram issue - the workstation is loaded)

Cheers
B) Søren

On 13/02/07 23:25, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1?
 I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they
 didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /:
 instead of _parent and _root


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Muzak
Please read this:
http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette

quote
Keep it coding
There are plenty of other places to talk about general Flash topics, and 
even more places to talk about non-Flash topics.
/quote

regards,
Muzak

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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?


I cant believe someone really understand a reason of hate something. Usually
if you think something as a reason then it is an aliby or something to leave
you to think you are rigth. Yes. There is some reasons really could be told
like bad happens or something. But for Flashkit boards I m not sure. Maybe I
m too selfish maybe my eenglich was bad. 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread T. Michael Keesey

On 2/14/07, The Helmsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I started to hate it!

And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more 
correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks 
good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release 
:)


Actually, AS3 has awesome documentation. It's just not integrated into
the Flash 9 alpha release. Go here:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/

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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
 What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO FLASH 9.  
 There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which 
 is only Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet.

The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few months now.
You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish
as Flash 9. 

If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list, he's breaking
the NDA.  This alone is probably pushing it.  *duck*
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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets 
you publish as Flash 9. 

No, I am not and yes, I am.  Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional
Actionscript 3.0 Preview, not public patch for Flash 8 that lets you
publish as Flash 9.   ;)

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning  Organizational Effectiveness
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

 What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO FLASH 9.  
 There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, 
which is only 
 Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet.

The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few 
months now.
You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets 
you publish as Flash 9. 

If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list, 
he's breaking the NDA.  This alone is probably pushing it.  
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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview

Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as if it was
the actual.  I just described it.  

Still not a beta.  ;)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
Still not a beta.  ;)

Right :)

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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview

Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as 
if it was the actual.  I just described it.  

Still not a beta.  ;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Gustavo Duenas
my advise to the guy complaining against the beta release of flash  
9get a job in adobe labs or wait until its release.


ciao.


On Feb 14, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets
you publish as Flash 9.


No, I am not and yes, I am.  Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional
Actionscript 3.0 Preview, not public patch for Flash 8 that lets you
publish as Flash 9.   ;)

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning  Organizational Effectiveness








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Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?


What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO FLASH 9.
There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta,

which is only

Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet.


The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few
months now.
You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets
you publish as Flash 9.

If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list,
he's breaking the NDA.  This alone is probably pushing it.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Allen

On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

drugs help


LOL classic Johannes!



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 BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I
 dont
 know why.


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

The End
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[Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

Anyone hate flash 9 already?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Alias™

Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

Curious,
Alias

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

Curious,
Alias

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread eka

Hello :)

Flash 9 ? or AS3 ?

Flash 9 is only in alpha version... We can't hate Flash9 because don't exist
lol

AS3 is the best solution for the moment to develop web  richmedia
application for me ! But we can't compare FP9, flash9 and AS3 ...

EKA+ :)

2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

 Curious,
 Alias

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Ian Thomas

No. No I don't. I think it's come on in leaps and bounds. Especially
for games. Here are a couple of immediate headliners which make Flash
9 so much better for game coding:
- Speed. AS3 is _fast_.
- Sensible display list/tree. No more attachMovie/removeMovieClip, no
more worrying about copying things around from parent to parent just
to get the damned thing to layer correctly.
- Decent bitmap manipulation routines. (Yes, I know they've been there
since 8, but you're saying you hate flash 'more and more', so...)


From a general production/development PoV, my headline item has to be:

- Command line compiler, at last. (Yes, we had MTASC before, but...)

Other than that, there's been a sensible reorganisation of the
libraries, a tightening up on standard ways to do things, and just a
general neatening up. I'd love to see better shared font support and
better sound support, but really, I think it's improved vastly since
MX04 (or, in fact, since I started with v5). And I think the
Macromedia/Adobe attitude has improved hugely too.

Ian

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Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

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 Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

 Curious,
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Andrews
Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so
we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!

Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?

If people hate something they generally know why.

Paul

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From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?


Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

 Curious,
 Alias

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for sure.
I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else do it.

On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so
we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!

Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?

If people hate something they generally know why.

Paul

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To: Flashcoders mailing list  flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?


Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

 Curious,
 Alias

 On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I dont
know why.

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for
sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else do
it.

On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so

 we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!

 Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
 specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?

 If people hate something they generally know why.

 Paul

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 To: Flashcoders mailing list  flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?


 Why to be specific in such a question?
 I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
 Perhaps cuz I do only games...

 On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
 
  Curious,
  Alias
 
  On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Muzak

 Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so
 we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!


Actually, no we don't.

 Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
 specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?


This list is about (or should be about) flash coding.

http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette
http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette#keep_it_coding

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Johannes Nel

drugs help

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I
dont
know why.

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for
 sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else
do
 it.

 On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions,
so
 
  we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!
 
  Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
  specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?
 
  If people hate something they generally know why.
 
  Paul
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Flashcoders mailing list  flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
 
 
  Why to be specific in such a question?
  I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
  Perhaps cuz I do only games...
 
  On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
  
   Curious,
   Alias
  
   On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone hate flash 9 already?
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Johannes Nel

for depression. it might make you like something again

On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


drugs help

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I
 dont
 know why.

 On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for

  sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else
 do
  it.
 
  On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others
 questions, so
  
   we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!
  
   Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
   specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?
  
   If people hate something they generally know why.
  
   Paul
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: Flashcoders mailing list  flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
   Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
  
   Why to be specific in such a question?
   I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
   Perhaps cuz I do only games...
  
   On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
   
Curious,
Alias
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

Dont like drugs BTW.
Sure. I know. A lirical one. It is bout coding too tho. There was answers
bout coding so it is OK

On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


drugs help

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I
 dont
 know why.

 On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for
  sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else
 do
  it.
 
  On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others
questions,
 so
  
   we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that!
  
   Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it
   specifically about flash 9 that irritates you?
  
   If people hate something they generally know why.
  
   Paul
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: Flashcoders mailing list  flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM
   Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
  
  
   Why to be specific in such a question?
   I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
   Perhaps cuz I do only games...
  
   On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?
   
Curious,
Alias
   
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 Anyone hate flash 9 already?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Matthias Dittgen

We love Flash! And we hate Flash!
That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-)


2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Anyone hate flash 9 already?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread James Marsden

ditto :)


Matthias Dittgen wrote:

We love Flash! And we hate Flash!
That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-)



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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

Those could help me.
I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for coders can I found
someone?
I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont like them
anyone.
So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for ppl to make
games with or hire someone(dont have enough money to hire ppl yet)

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ditto :)


Matthias Dittgen wrote:
 We love Flash! And we hate Flash!
 That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-)


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Riemslag
an interesting post ;)

http://positionrelative.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/craigs-pissed/


.. looking for coders..dont have enough money to hire ppl yet..



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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Danny Kodicek
  Those could help me.
 I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for 
 coders can I found someone?
 I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont 
 like them anyone.
 So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for 
 ppl to make games with or hire someone(dont have enough money 
 to hire ppl yet)

Wow, you're really selling yourself as a potential collaborator so far :)

Danny

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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread dan
I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people

:)
shalom


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there.
Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess.

On 2/13/07, dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English
people

:)
shalom


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Ian Thomas

*hangs a large Do Not Feed The Troll sign on this thread.*

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there.
Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess.


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol
Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not trying to
catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take GFX SFX
music part on myself.
Could this community help me more than flashkit boards?
I even afraid to post anything here really that is question about
actionscript itself :\
Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... So actually I hate
not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around _

On 2/13/07, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


*hangs a large Do Not Feed The Troll sign on this thread.*

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out
there.
 Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Sebastian Mohr

Without Flash 9 and Actionscript 3 your beloved Flash would
fade away ... looking ahead to Big M and their WPF/E stuff.
Adobe/Macromedia had to speed up the Flash runtime and
so they compel the flash developer to have more programming
skills.

cheers,
masu


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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Toby
 Could this community help me more than flashkit boards?

This is another world. I would advise against any further comparison.

 So actually I hate not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around _

There isn’t anything you can do about this other than read more and try and
work with more people. This isn’t the best place for easy questions either,
I do recommend  http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashnewbie 

Please don’t spam this list :¬)

Toby


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Jon Bradley

Isn't there a flash newbie list?



On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:


Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol
Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not  
trying to
catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take  
GFX SFX

music part on myself.
Could this community help me more than flashkit boards?
I even afraid to post anything here really that is question about
actionscript itself :\
Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... So  
actually I hate

not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around _

On 2/13/07, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


*hangs a large Do Not Feed The Troll sign on this thread.*

On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out
there.
 Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Søren Christensen


well utf8 support is taking care of that already :-)

On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:09 PM, dan wrote:

I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non  
English people


:)
shalom


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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Søren Christensen


Now speaking about flash 9 -

I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player:

flash 6 to 8 swf files with  as1 or keyframe animation just performs  
slower.
If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9  i need to  
export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows  
them rather ok.


at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player.

Have anybody experienced something similar?

Cheers,
B) Søren

On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:


Why to be specific in such a question?
I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
Perhaps cuz I do only games...

On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

Curious,
Alias

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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev

U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1?
I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they
didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /:
instead of _parent and _root

On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Now speaking about flash 9 -

I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player:

flash 6 to 8 swf files with  as1 or keyframe animation just performs
slower.
If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9  i need to
export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows
them rather ok.

at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player.

Have anybody experienced something similar?

Cheers,
B) Søren

On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote:

 Why to be specific in such a question?
 I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel.
 Perhaps cuz I do only games...

 On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you be more specific as to why one might do so?

 Curious,
 Alias

 On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyone hate flash 9 already?
 
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