Re: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript
Have a look at ARP. http://osflash.org/arp It's a lightweight framework that takes MVC to the next level. mailing list: http://ariaware.com/mailman/listinfo/arp_ariaware.com manual http://www.ariaware.com/products/arp/manual.php regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: David Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript Hi everyone! I'm having real difficulty understanding how to properly architect and structure Flash applications using ActionScript 2.0. I've read Colin Moock's excellent Essential ActionScript 2.0 and several other books and articles on the topic and while I can safely say that I do understand the syntax, I can't seem to write an entire application using OO design mainly because I can't figure out what should be in a class, which class should do what, which class should extend MovieClip, which class should use composition instead, which class should start the application, etc. I'm sure a lot of excellent Flash developpers in this mailing list didn't have previous coding experience before they started Flash (like myself) and managed to become the ActionScript 2.0 OO pros aroud here. Any help / tips ? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript
FWIW, I thought this book did a good job of of getting me past the jargon. Much more accessible to me than the Moock Essential AS2 has been. The Moock book is really good, but, I find it tough read. I'm not really a programmer though, it's just another hat I have to wear sometimes... http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590596196 On 8/18/06, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the hardest thing to get my head around is the absurd amount of Jargon involved in OOP - for what are essentially simple concepts. I really wish we wouldn't perpetuate the practice of trying to make ourselves important by using such a verbal smokescreen. Once you get past the copious amounts of conceptual diarrohea the actual fundamentals are fairly easy to understand. I know it's easier to define concepts using singular terms, but it would seem that OOP tends to go overboard with this a hell of a lot. OOP dictionary anyone? This is componounded by other concepts being explained within the bounds of this jargon - One question inevitably leads to many more. M ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript
I find the hardest thing to get my head around is the absurd amount of Jargon involved in OOP - for what are essentially simple concepts. I really wish we wouldn't perpetuate the practice of trying to make ourselves important by using such a verbal smokescreen. Once you get past the copious amounts of conceptual diarrohea the actual fundamentals are fairly easy to understand. I know it's easier to define concepts using singular terms, but it would seem that OOP tends to go overboard with this a hell of a lot. OOP dictionary anyone? This is componounded by other concepts being explained within the bounds of this jargon - One question inevitably leads to many more. M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Britton Sent: 18 August 2006 15:33 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript I second James' recommendation of Headfirst Design Patterns. I also recommend downloading an Enterprise Architect trial http://www.sparxsystems.com/ or Poseidon http://gentleware.com/index.php and learning some UML. It helps me to step outside of the code and focus on the logic behind the business decisions. Understanding sequence diagrams (user clicks button, event is passed to manager, etc) first can help you sketch out class diagrams that eventually turn into really scalable systems. Then later, people can wade right in and add to it. Most important: try not to learn everything at once. Give your brain time to wrap around small chunks of new info. My .02 Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best way to learn OO Analysis and Design withActionScript
I used to have a problem with this too, hating the 'verbal smokescreen' as you put it, but it's crucial to be in sync with specialist language and concepts in order to cut through misunderstanding between peers. I don't think it's about making ourselves more important, but making sure you're able to communicate complex ideas quickly. I'm a Fine art graduate, and there's no environment worse than that for absurdly long winded conceptual bullshit - at least OOP concepts actually lock people's understandings together! J Mike Mountain wrote: I find the hardest thing to get my head around is the absurd amount of Jargon involved in OOP - for what are essentially simple concepts. I really wish we wouldn't perpetuate the practice of trying to make ourselves important by using such a verbal smokescreen. Once you get past the copious amounts of conceptual diarrohea the actual fundamentals are fairly easy to understand. I know it's easier to define concepts using singular terms, but it would seem that OOP tends to go overboard with this a hell of a lot. OOP dictionary anyone? This is componounded by other concepts being explained within the bounds of this jargon - One question inevitably leads to many more. M ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
