Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
Nice guys! :) Yes, I'm rooting for deng and for flash 8.5 and more html support in textfields but ho is there for people that still need straight html. Drag and drop from component panel into flash. But it would be cool to update it with Flash 8 External Interface. http://drumbeatinsight.com/examples/htmlOverlayFullScaleIFrame_files/htmlOverlayFullScaleIFrame.swf http://drumbeatinsight.com/examples/htmloverlay/debug/htmlOverlayDebug.html http://drumbeatinsight.com/examples/htmloverlay/queue/htmlOverlayMultipleSampleQueueExample.html http://drumbeatinsight.com/examples/htmloverlay/stretch/htmlOverlayFullScale.html http://drumbeatinsight.com/examples/htmloverlay/withlist/htmlOverlayWithList.html Check out the debug example. There are *three* html overlays on that page. Can you spot the other ones? Judah Andy Weisner wrote: Heres a HO like ,similar seamless HTML layer - over flash interface example I implemented 2 years ago: http://www.wsw-online.de/verkehr/index.html (its in a popup ,so wont work with popup, click wsw-mobicenter link) Its working quite good on most browsers but probably not all..but was a pain to implement. If maybe a easy framework for this can be made like HO it definetly has potential with flash8 . there is another way possible now if one want to make a seamless flash like a frame around the HTML layer using like 3-4 different embeded flash movies which all comunicate and synchronize with flash local connection...and via javacript /external interface with the content.The content could sometimes be another a 5th flash movie which communicates with the others so make it even more seamless. I will try this approach on a project soon. Wont work on any layout but works fine for many,and should have no problems with browsers like the HO approach. Andy Stan Vassilev wrote: The fact we can get HO working consistently accross wider range of browsers is exciting since I've been trying to get it done properly for ages now (mixing Flash and HTML as if it's all in Flash). However it still remains buggy and limiting (example - missing text cursors, focus issues and the fact html is always on top means no custom cursors or movieclips over it etc. etc.). It also requires too much from the user - JS on, recent Flash player, recent browser version, and right platform. With flash 8.0 adding advanced bitmap operations and 8.5 adding blazing math speed to the runtime, I think we're a lot closer to having full-blows DHTML renderer in Flash which is almost as fast as any browser out there (in other words: like Deng, except couple of hundred times faster ;) ). Regards, Stan Vassilev I'm not sure how your site is built but the purpose of the HTML Overlay (HO for short) is to get HTML from a database (using ASP, PHP, etc) and update the div that is displayed transparently over your flash document. The html content can come from an html element on the page or be set in flash like this: // set the html in dynamically created div my_ho.setHTML = some html // move the div to a new location relative to where it is on the flash stage my_ho.moveTo(10,30) my_ho.setHTML = new html Is really one of my personal favorite projects. It is to give Flash all the features of HTML from within the Flash IDE. Now with External Interface we have a even more features. I still get info that people do not know it's uses. I'll post some links to live demonstration shortly. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: The principle works indeed. But the HTML has to come from Flash. In a large site where dynamic (ASP) pages create the menu's, it can't be used. On 01 Nov 2005, at 07:01, Helmut Granda wrote: Great work! By any chance Do you have a list of platforms you have tested this on? The main problem I have is with Linux. Thanks ...helmut Judah Frangipane wrote: Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
I'm not sure how your site is built but the purpose of the HTML Overlay (HO for short) is to get HTML from a database (using ASP, PHP, etc) and update the div that is displayed transparently over your flash document. The html content can come from an html element on the page or be set in flash like this: // set the html in dynamically created div my_ho.setHTML = some html // move the div to a new location relative to where it is on the flash stage my_ho.moveTo(10,30) my_ho.setHTML = new html Is really one of my personal favorite projects. It is to give Flash all the features of HTML from within the Flash IDE. Now with External Interface we have a even more features. I still get info that people do not know it's uses. I'll post some links to live demonstration shortly. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: The principle works indeed. But the HTML has to come from Flash. In a large site where dynamic (ASP) pages create the menu's, it can't be used. On 01 Nov 2005, at 07:01, Helmut Granda wrote: Great work! By any chance Do you have a list of platforms you have tested this on? The main problem I have is with Linux. Thanks ...helmut Judah Frangipane wrote: Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
Heres a HO like ,similar seamless HTML layer - over flash interface example I implemented 2 years ago: http://www.wsw-online.de/verkehr/index.html (its in a popup ,so wont work with popup, click wsw-mobicenter link) Its working quite good on most browsers but probably not all..but was a pain to implement. If maybe a easy framework for this can be made like HO it definetly has potential with flash8 . there is another way possible now if one want to make a seamless flash like a frame around the HTML layer using like 3-4 different embeded flash movies which all comunicate and synchronize with flash local connection...and via javacript /external interface with the content.The content could sometimes be another a 5th flash movie which communicates with the others so make it even more seamless. I will try this approach on a project soon. Wont work on any layout but works fine for many,and should have no problems with browsers like the HO approach. Andy Stan Vassilev wrote: The fact we can get HO working consistently accross wider range of browsers is exciting since I've been trying to get it done properly for ages now (mixing Flash and HTML as if it's all in Flash). However it still remains buggy and limiting (example - missing text cursors, focus issues and the fact html is always on top means no custom cursors or movieclips over it etc. etc.). It also requires too much from the user - JS on, recent Flash player, recent browser version, and right platform. With flash 8.0 adding advanced bitmap operations and 8.5 adding blazing math speed to the runtime, I think we're a lot closer to having full-blows DHTML renderer in Flash which is almost as fast as any browser out there (in other words: like Deng, except couple of hundred times faster ;) ). Regards, Stan Vassilev I'm not sure how your site is built but the purpose of the HTML Overlay (HO for short) is to get HTML from a database (using ASP, PHP, etc) and update the div that is displayed transparently over your flash document. The html content can come from an html element on the page or be set in flash like this: // set the html in dynamically created div my_ho.setHTML = some html // move the div to a new location relative to where it is on the flash stage my_ho.moveTo(10,30) my_ho.setHTML = new html Is really one of my personal favorite projects. It is to give Flash all the features of HTML from within the Flash IDE. Now with External Interface we have a even more features. I still get info that people do not know it's uses. I'll post some links to live demonstration shortly. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: The principle works indeed. But the HTML has to come from Flash. In a large site where dynamic (ASP) pages create the menu's, it can't be used. On 01 Nov 2005, at 07:01, Helmut Granda wrote: Great work! By any chance Do you have a list of platforms you have tested this on? The main problem I have is with Linux. Thanks ...helmut Judah Frangipane wrote: Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
This just gave me a great idea on how to battle those Flash popup ads in layers. What if Firefox was to place all of the contents of a body tag within a layer positioned at (0,0) at the highest z-depth it could. The Flash ad would then be covered. I wonder if a Firefox plugin could do this sort of thing? Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andy Weisner Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:17 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed Heres a HO like ,similar seamless HTML layer - over flash interface example I implemented 2 years ago: http://www.wsw-online.de/verkehr/index.html (its in a popup ,so wont work with popup, click wsw-mobicenter link) Its working quite good on most browsers but probably not all..but was a pain to implement. If maybe a easy framework for this can be made like HO it definetly has potential with flash8 . there is another way possible now if one want to make a seamless flash like a frame around the HTML layer using like 3-4 different embeded flash movies which all comunicate and synchronize with flash local connection...and via javacript /external interface with the content.The content could sometimes be another a 5th flash movie which communicates with the others so make it even more seamless. I will try this approach on a project soon. Wont work on any layout but works fine for many,and should have no problems with browsers like the HO approach. Andy Stan Vassilev wrote: The fact we can get HO working consistently accross wider range of browsers is exciting since I've been trying to get it done properly for ages now (mixing Flash and HTML as if it's all in Flash). However it still remains buggy and limiting (example - missing text cursors, focus issues and the fact html is always on top means no custom cursors or movieclips over it etc. etc.). It also requires too much from the user - JS on, recent Flash player, recent browser version, and right platform. With flash 8.0 adding advanced bitmap operations and 8.5 adding blazing math speed to the runtime, I think we're a lot closer to having full-blows DHTML renderer in Flash which is almost as fast as any browser out there (in other words: like Deng, except couple of hundred times faster ;) ). Regards, Stan Vassilev I'm not sure how your site is built but the purpose of the HTML Overlay (HO for short) is to get HTML from a database (using ASP, PHP, etc) and update the div that is displayed transparently over your flash document. The html content can come from an html element on the page or be set in flash like this: // set the html in dynamically created div my_ho.setHTML = some html // move the div to a new location relative to where it is on the flash stage my_ho.moveTo(10,30) my_ho.setHTML = new html Is really one of my personal favorite projects. It is to give Flash all the features of HTML from within the Flash IDE. Now with External Interface we have a even more features. I still get info that people do not know it's uses. I'll post some links to live demonstration shortly. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: The principle works indeed. But the HTML has to come from Flash. In a large site where dynamic (ASP) pages create the menu's, it can't be used. On 01 Nov 2005, at 07:01, Helmut Granda wrote: Great work! By any chance Do you have a list of platforms you have tested this on? The main problem I have is with Linux. Thanks ...helmut Judah Frangipane wrote: Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders
[Flashcoders] DHTML and Flash Player 8 Bugs Fixed?
Hello all, I received an email stating that the Layering problem between Flash Content and DHTML (for example drop down menues) has been fixed in flash player 8. And that this is a bug in flash player 7. I dont know if this is true, so I was trying to get some insight from some one that can point me out to verify that this information is accurate. IMHO I dont think that the flash player can fix a layering issue that is being handled with HTML/CSS/JS/DHTML. I believe that this is more of a browser issue but I might be totally wrong. Any thoughts? TIA. ...helmut. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
I believe I hickjaked a thread. Sorry about that here is the new thread: Hello all, I received an email stating that the Layering problem between Flash Content and DHTML (for example drop down menues) has been fixed in flash player 8. And that this is a bug in flash player 7. I dont know if this is true, so I was trying to get some insight from some one that can point me out to verify that this information is accurate. IMHO I dont think that the flash player can fix a layering issue that is being handled with HTML/CSS/JS/DHTML. I believe that this is more of a browser issue but I might be totally wrong. Any thoughts? TIA. ...helmut. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and Flash Player 8 Bugs Fixed?
EMAIL TIP: Try hitting New Message in your emailer when starting a new discussion, rather than hitting Reply, to avoid becoming invisible in emailers which thread conversations. (Right now your post is found in the archive as a reply to Right-Click Pauses Movie!) The references field in your message header will show what happened. For What's the status on layering HTML and non-HTML? then you're right, it's more of a browser issue -- the Macromedia Flash Player has hooked into WMODE compositing for many years now, and browsers still vary in their offscreen buffering support. Websearches on wmode dowdell focus closely on this area. (That private email you paraphrased sounds strange to me, for the same reasons you listed.) Summary: You can layer JavaScript atop Flash if the browser supports it, and more browsers support it now than did five, eight years ago. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
So this becomes Does anyone know of WMODE support in various browsers for Linux? If so, then I just tried some quick searches with mixed results -- I found many incidental mentions, but no document which seems to answer Which Linux browsers can buffer plugins offscreen? The Flash Release Notes usually all mention linux and wmode, but not always together -- it's hard to find an appropriate citation in the Flash docs, either. If your private correspondent included a link to his source info we might be able to search faster. We do know that *some* of the overall audience will usually fail with such browser-specific features, but in this case I'm not able to quickly research how the minorities in various Linux configurations do. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ...helmut John Dowdell wrote: So this becomes Does anyone know of WMODE support in various browsers for Linux? If so, then I just tried some quick searches with mixed results -- I found many incidental mentions, but no document which seems to answer Which Linux browsers can buffer plugins offscreen? The Flash Release Notes usually all mention linux and wmode, but not always together -- it's hard to find an appropriate citation in the Flash docs, either. If your private correspondent included a link to his source info we might be able to search faster. We do know that *some* of the overall audience will usually fail with such browser-specific features, but in this case I'm not able to quickly research how the minorities in various Linux configurations do. jd ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
Really neat...but may I suggest that you change the name? Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Judah Frangipane Sent: Mon 10/31/2005 3:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML and FLash Player 8 Bugs Fixed
Great work! By any chance Do you have a list of platforms you have tested this on? The main problem I have is with Linux. Thanks ...helmut Judah Frangipane wrote: Hi Saunder, It is possible. Until I send some example links you can look at these screenshots here: http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot1.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/system/files?file=screenshot2.jpg http://drumbeatinsight.com/htmloverlay I am thinking of making this open source if anyone is interested. Best Regards, Judah Sander wrote: Er... Linux issue only? How do you layer *any* content above flash? It's just not possible! Even a layer with plain text with a higher ID will drop under flash... Thanks for all your help, not only I learned how exactly indetify the problem but also how to post more accurate subjects to the list. I will try to get the source info for this problem and post it back to the list. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
