Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
No Java unforunately. I have the plugs for eclipse. they seem to work well. I just have my projects setup all wrong. using import com.mproject.somefile.as doesn't work. AND in the projects folder on the left i don't just see code files, I see the .fla's the .swf's etc. so I know i have something wrong here... =\ osflash isn't very helpful. i tried, but it doesn't go through and show you how to setup a project. fM On 7/15/06, Ed Staub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flash Mel, I'm maybe one step ahead of you here. I was watching the responses, hoping to learn something. No such luck. It looks to me like you probably come from a Java background - yes? Here's what I THINK is true - hopefully this will provoke someone to correct me who knows more. Take everything here with a grain of salt. 1.) The best Flash debugger for normal development is, unfortunately, Macromedia's. There are none in the Eclipse plug-ins. 2.) For unit testing, the most-recommended component seems to be As2Unit. I haven't tried it. It's only available in compiled form, which gives me pause. This seems to be the most-recommended package, but there are many others. One that appears to have quite a bit of momentum is AsUnit (http://asunit.org/) - I'd definitely check it out. If you find something you like, please drop me a line. 3.) I didn't see which plug-in you're using. I tried FDT, since several sites will tell you it's the best plug-in for AS development, but have a few issues: a. It's a commercial product - they want around $250 for it. There's a 30-day trial b. Nothing's been updated since last fall. c. It has a problem with F8 library organization - it doesn't support the automatic switch-in of F8 or F7 depending on context. d. The web site is slow to the point of unusability - I think it is severely throttled. e. Email bounces f. Given the state of the website, I'd be scared to death to try to pay by credit card there. Based on all this, I switched to FlashDevelop (not Eclipse at all - it's .NET, in fact!). So far, so good - it's fast, slick, intuitive, and there appears to be quite a bit of developer momentum in plugins, etc. In trying to find out what's going on, keep a close eye on WHEN something was recommended. What was best a year ago often isn't the best now. The site that seems most relevant to your questions wasn't on the list another responder sent earlier. http://www.osflash.org Good luck, -Ed Staub ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
Yeah I was way off, sorry. After my post I realized what you were talking about and installed it. I'm now researching how to integrate it with Flex swfmill and MTASC to hopefully speed up my work flow. I hope you figured it out. -A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) Hey Andy, thanks for the reply. What I was looking for was a help site that talks about how to setup Eclipse properly. I showed a buddy of mine my setup and he said it wasn't right - too bad he didnt set his up, he works with some real good flash devs that helped him out. looking around at screenshots of other dev's eclipse workspace and I'm realizing I'm way off track with how to setup eclipse for use with my projects. =\ On 7/14/06, Andy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of sites below... http://www.gotoandlearn.com/ http://www.ultrashock.com/ http://www.flashkit.com http://actionscript.org http://www.kirupa.com http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/ http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php I Hope this helps. -Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday. I've been using SciTEFlash forever and it has served me well. But I needed a better way of managing my projects and the projects of the other flash developer here. ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to setting up and testing movies. Not just for class files either, but for regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie. =\ Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!! =] One day soon. Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated. If this might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk. Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post. fM. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
Hey Steven thanks, I'll check that as well! m. On 7/14/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you liked SciTE, you should check out Flash Develop. http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/ It launches in like 2 seconds and has tons of great features. It's still in development, but it's coming along nicely. It supports all the file types you edit when working in Flash. Sorry for hijacking your thread. BLITZ | Steven Sacks - 310-551-0200 x209 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Stone Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of sites below... http://www.gotoandlearn.com/ http://www.ultrashock.com/ http://www.flashkit.com http://actionscript.org http://www.kirupa.com http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/ http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php I Hope this helps. -Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday. I've been using SciTEFlash forever and it has served me well. But I needed a better way of managing my projects and the projects of the other flash developer here. ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to setting up and testing movies. Not just for class files either, but for regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie. =\ Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!! =] One day soon. Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated. If this might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk. Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post. fM. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
Flash Mel, I'm maybe one step ahead of you here. I was watching the responses, hoping to learn something. No such luck. It looks to me like you probably come from a Java background - yes? Here's what I THINK is true - hopefully this will provoke someone to correct me who knows more. Take everything here with a grain of salt. 1.) The best Flash debugger for normal development is, unfortunately, Macromedia's. There are none in the Eclipse plug-ins. 2.) For unit testing, the most-recommended component seems to be As2Unit. I haven't tried it. It's only available in compiled form, which gives me pause. This seems to be the most-recommended package, but there are many others. One that appears to have quite a bit of momentum is AsUnit (http://asunit.org/) - I'd definitely check it out. If you find something you like, please drop me a line. 3.) I didn't see which plug-in you're using. I tried FDT, since several sites will tell you it's the best plug-in for AS development, but have a few issues: a. It's a commercial product - they want around $250 for it. There's a 30-day trial b. Nothing's been updated since last fall. c. It has a problem with F8 library organization - it doesn't support the automatic switch-in of F8 or F7 depending on context. d. The web site is slow to the point of unusability - I think it is severely throttled. e. Email bounces f. Given the state of the website, I'd be scared to death to try to pay by credit card there. Based on all this, I switched to FlashDevelop (not Eclipse at all - it's .NET, in fact!). So far, so good - it's fast, slick, intuitive, and there appears to be quite a bit of developer momentum in plugins, etc. In trying to find out what's going on, keep a close eye on WHEN something was recommended. What was best a year ago often isn't the best now. The site that seems most relevant to your questions wasn't on the list another responder sent earlier. http://www.osflash.org Good luck, -Ed Staub ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday. I've been using SciTEFlash forever and it has served me well. But I needed a better way of managing my projects and the projects of the other flash developer here. ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to setting up and testing movies. Not just for class files either, but for regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie. =\ Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!! =] One day soon. Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated. If this might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk. Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post. fM. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of sites below... http://www.gotoandlearn.com/ http://www.ultrashock.com/ http://www.flashkit.com http://actionscript.org http://www.kirupa.com http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/ http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php I Hope this helps. -Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday. I've been using SciTEFlash forever and it has served me well. But I needed a better way of managing my projects and the projects of the other flash developer here. ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to setting up and testing movies. Not just for class files either, but for regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie. =\ Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!! =] One day soon. Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated. If this might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk. Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post. fM. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner)
If you liked SciTE, you should check out Flash Develop. http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/ It launches in like 2 seconds and has tons of great features. It's still in development, but it's coming along nicely. It supports all the file types you edit when working in Flash. Sorry for hijacking your thread. BLITZ | Steven Sacks - 310-551-0200 x209 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Stone Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) There's a ton of resources out there. You can find tutorials at a few of sites below... http://www.gotoandlearn.com/ http://www.ultrashock.com/ http://www.flashkit.com http://actionscript.org http://www.kirupa.com http://www.moock.org/asdg/codedepot/ http://www.sephiroth.it/tutorials.php I Hope this helps. -Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash Mel Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:08 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse Assistance (beginner) Ok, so I just got Eclipse installed yesterday. I've been using SciTEFlash forever and it has served me well. But I needed a better way of managing my projects and the projects of the other flash developer here. ANYWAY...now that I have Eclipse installed I am a bit confused as to to setting up and testing movies. Not just for class files either, but for regular .as files, I am at a loss as to how to test the movie. =\ Hopefully working in this environment and pushing myself more, I can begin writing more AS2 classes and even *gasp* AS3!! =] One day soon. Any help or tutorials and even some guidance would be appreciated. If this might be a lengthy description, feel free to contact me on google talk. Cheers and my bad for the newbie-ish post. fM. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
