Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
For those who need a little more tighter control of no-cache on their webserver. You can evidently control your no-cache via an .htacess in the required directory. http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/apache-speed-cache-control.html It also looks like you can set the no-cache per file type, i.e - .swf I got this from someone on my PHP list. Thought it was interesting, so I am passing it on. HTHs someone Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: The nocache in the SWFObject is so the swf isn't cached. I also use the same treatment for the XML that is loaded into the swf. That along with the META tags that call for no caching and that does the trick. I guess for safety purposes, I could add your script as well. Might be overkill, but if it prevents every browser from caching, so be it. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:14 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi Nathan, Are you adding the no-cache to the html page or to the swfobject that loads? I noticed on your site that you have the no-cache in the swfobject. Maybe if the no-cache was associated with the html file that the swfobject was embedded/placed in, it would work? I believe, but no proof atm, that the code I supplied will make sure nothing in the html will cache. Not the html page nor its contents. But I can not validate that atm. JAT Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl Is that even legal http? clearly no-cache contradicts must-revalidate. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Is that even legal http? clearly no-cache contradicts must-revalidate. Yes, it's legal. The two commands don't actually conflict. There are several different cache-control directives you can set in an HTTP response. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Hi Nathan, Are you adding the no-cache to the html page or to the swfobject that loads? I noticed on your site that you have the no-cache in the swfobject. Maybe if the no-cache was associated with the html file that the swfobject was embedded/placed in, it would work? I believe, but no proof atm, that the code I supplied will make sure nothing in the html will cache. Not the html page nor its contents. But I can not validate that atm. JAT Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Nice site BTW. The panels took me by surprise. :) Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Well I hope so, I got it from a tutorial. lol Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Henrik Andersson wrote: Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl Is that even legal http? clearly no-cache contradicts must- revalidate. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
The nocache in the SWFObject is so the swf isn't cached. I also use the same treatment for the XML that is loaded into the swf. That along with the META tags that call for no caching and that does the trick. I guess for safety purposes, I could add your script as well. Might be overkill, but if it prevents every browser from caching, so be it. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:14 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi Nathan, Are you adding the no-cache to the html page or to the swfobject that loads? I noticed on your site that you have the no-cache in the swfobject. Maybe if the no-cache was associated with the html file that the swfobject was embedded/placed in, it would work? I believe, but no proof atm, that the code I supplied will make sure nothing in the html will cache. Not the html page nor its contents. But I can not validate that atm. JAT Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Let me know if it works for you. I would try once with just that php script for the no-cache. Might do the trick instead of all three that you would have. Because of the whole pre-processing thing. GL Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: The nocache in the SWFObject is so the swf isn't cached. I also use the same treatment for the XML that is loaded into the swf. That along with the META tags that call for no caching and that does the trick. I guess for safety purposes, I could add your script as well. Might be overkill, but if it prevents every browser from caching, so be it. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:14 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi Nathan, Are you adding the no-cache to the html page or to the swfobject that loads? I noticed on your site that you have the no-cache in the swfobject. Maybe if the no-cache was associated with the html file that the swfobject was embedded/placed in, it would work? I believe, but no proof atm, that the code I supplied will make sure nothing in the html will cache. Not the html page nor its contents. But I can not validate that atm. JAT Karl On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: It seems to be working for me, but I do not have an XML being read. I put it at the very top. Before any HTML and it makes the page reload every time. I tested with different text on the page every time I uploaded to the server and it showed. Maybe take the code I supplied and try it once? Make sure that php code gets read before anything else on the page. Hth Gl Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: I know I used the meta tags to control cache and that still didn't fix. I'm interested to see if this is any different. Please share your findings. Thanks, Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:09:09 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML Hi there, Just thought I'd share some code I found. Seems to be a no-cache method that works. Nathan, I know you said you figured out your issue, but for anyone else looking for a no-cache code, here you go. ?php Header( Cache-Control: no-cache); Header( Cache-Control: must-revalidate); ? I believe if this php is put before the !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... of your HTML, It will control the headers of the document and will not let the page cache. I am going to test myself, but has anyone used something like this? I want to find a simple solution to this no-cache thing, I am thinking I have found it. Please let me know if there is an easier way. Thanks, Karl On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Figured out this issue. The NoCache method worked fine. I was trying to use the information before it was set in it's variables. Thanks Steven and others for their replies! Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Steven Sacks [mailto:flash...@stevensacks.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:45 PM To: nat...@mynarcik.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML You should use Firebug in Firefox to see what's going on. That or Charles. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
The XML file is only called once for the user's experience. On the initial
visit from the user, the XML for the UI of the site is called and then the
XML for the content is called (RSS feed).
If I can't figure this out, I might just set a cookie via JavaScript and
have it clear the contents in -1 days so nothing gets cached from the site.
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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:42 PM
To: Flash List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Just a thought, but maybe setting the variable that holds the XML you
grab from the server to null right before it goes to grab the XML
every time the page gets called.
That way it isn't holding on to the last XML grabbed?? It might be
going to grab the xml while that variable already has a value and the
browser is tripping it to clear the variable
before populating it again, but doesn't have that second call after
its cleared till you refresh. Kind of a pseudo variable caching. Like
I said, its just a thought. Not sure if that is even possible.
I am reaching though, I have had similar situations with my PHP files
not getting variables, so I am interested to see what solution can be
provided.
Best,
Karl
On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
I've tested it in all browsers.
IE, Safari, Opera, Chrome, FireFox
Anything else I don't really care about. But first tests are in
chrome and it is doing it in that. IE has been the worse but all work
after refreshing one or two times.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 8:36 PM
Safari doesn't honor nocache. Safari is a jerk. Are you using Safari?
On 3/26/2010 3:35 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
That's similar to what I am doing. I know for a fact that the url
doesn't already have a ? in it.
I have no clue why on some visits, the colors and other xml data is
not pulled. Then on a refresh it pulls them.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 5:27 PM
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already
in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the
url string a Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the
backbone to the colors used in the UI of my site which goes black
when the load doesn't work properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error
and then supply the url to the load function without the Date
object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent
visitors from sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets
loaded correctly?
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Interactive Web Developer
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254.749.2525
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Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Just a thought, but maybe setting the variable that holds the XML you
grab from the server to null right before it goes to grab the XML
every time the page gets called.
That way it isn't holding on to the last XML grabbed?? It might be
going to grab the xml while that variable already has a value and the
browser is tripping it to clear the variable
before populating it again, but doesn't have that second call after
its cleared till you refresh. Kind of a pseudo variable caching. Like
I said, its just a thought. Not sure if that is even possible.
I am reaching though, I have had similar situations with my PHP files
not getting variables, so I am interested to see what solution can be
provided.
Best,
Karl
On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
I've tested it in all browsers.
IE, Safari, Opera, Chrome, FireFox
Anything else I don't really care about. But first tests are in
chrome and it is doing it in that. IE has been the worse but all work
after refreshing one or two times.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 8:36 PM
Safari doesn't honor nocache. Safari is a jerk. Are you using Safari?
On 3/26/2010 3:35 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
That's similar to what I am doing. I know for a fact that the url
doesn't already have a ? in it.
I have no clue why on some visits, the colors and other xml data is
not pulled. Then on a refresh it pulls them.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 5:27 PM
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already
in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the
url string a Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the
backbone to the colors used in the UI of my site which goes black
when the load doesn't work properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error
and then supply the url to the load function without the Date
object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent
visitors from sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets
loaded correctly?
Nathan Mynarcik
Interactive Web Developer
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Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the url string a
Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the backbone to the
colors used in the UI of my site which goes black when the load doesn't work
properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error and then supply
the url to the load function without the Date object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent visitors from
sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets loaded correctly?
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Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
That's similar to what I am doing. I know for a fact that the url doesn't
already have a ? in it.
I have no clue why on some visits, the colors and other xml data is not pulled.
Then on a refresh it pulls them.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 5:27 PM
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the url string
a Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the backbone to the
colors used in the UI of my site which goes black when the load doesn't work
properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error and then
supply the url to the load function without the Date object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent visitors
from sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets loaded correctly?
Nathan Mynarcik
Interactive Web Developer
nat...@mynarcik.com
254.749.2525
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Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Safari doesn't honor nocache. Safari is a jerk. Are you using Safari?
On 3/26/2010 3:35 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
That's similar to what I am doing. I know for a fact that the url doesn't already have a
? in it.
I have no clue why on some visits, the colors and other xml data is not pulled.
Then on a refresh it pulls them.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 5:27 PM
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the url string a
Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the backbone to the
colors used in the UI of my site which goes black when the load doesn't work
properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error and then supply
the url to the load function without the Date object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent visitors from
sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets loaded correctly?
Nathan Mynarcik
Interactive Web Developer
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Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
I've tested it in all browsers.
IE, Safari, Opera, Chrome, FireFox
Anything else I don't really care about. But first tests are in chrome and it
is doing it in that. IE has been the worse but all work after refreshing one or
two times.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 8:36 PM
Safari doesn't honor nocache. Safari is a jerk. Are you using Safari?
On 3/26/2010 3:35 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
That's similar to what I am doing. I know for a fact that the url doesn't
already have a ? in it.
I have no clue why on some visits, the colors and other xml data is not
pulled. Then on a refresh it pulls them.
--Original Message--
From: Steven Sacks
To: Nathan Mynarcik
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] NoCache XML
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 5:27 PM
It should always work. Perhaps the url of the xml has a ? already in it?
public function nocache(url:String):String
{
var d:Date = new Date();
var nc:String = nocache= + d.getTime();
if (url.indexOf(?) -1) return url + + nc;
return url + ? + nc;
}
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am loading in an external xml doc via
loadXML(url of xml);
To prevent browsers from caching the xml, I add at the end of the url string
a Date object like:
loadXML(url of xml+?nocache=+new Date().getTime());
This sometimes works and other times doesn't. The xml is the backbone to the
colors used in the UI of my site which goes black when the load doesn't work
properly.
I have tried to add an IOERROREvent function to catch the error and then
supply the url to the load function without the Date object appended.
Is there any checks or different directions I can take to prevent visitors
from sometimes having to refresh until the xml gets loaded correctly?
Nathan Mynarcik
Interactive Web Developer
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254.749.2525
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