Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
Hello Dave,
my advice (and I have to deal with RH Linux 80% of
my work time) to you and other designer guys here is:
don't fall for Linux hype, go with OpenBSD.
You install the core system, which already has Apache 1
with many security improvements (compared to the original
Apache code) and which runs in chroot (i.e. if one of your
scripts gets hacked, the abuser will stay locked in /var/www
directory and as a non-root user).
Then you just install PHP (hardened) and MySQL or
PostgreSQL packages using the pkg_add command
and you're ready to go.
And if you add this line into your pf.conf (firewall config):
block out quick on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp } all user www
then any PHP worms won't have a chance to propagate...
Etc. etc... Search for OpenBSD hosting and you'll love it.
Regards
Alex
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
I guess how hard relates to what kind of remote access you have. I'm guessing Windows is the os, and PHP/MySQL on Windows has been a piece of cake for me. I've done it more than a few times on different computers. However, I've never done it remotely. If you have remote desktop access to the computer, then it should be just as easy as if you had physical access to the box. There are very nicely documented sources on how to install both PHP and MySQL, and with a bare minimum computer knowledge, you should do fine. However, I can't think of how you could do it with any other kind of remote access... I'm guessing they gave you remote desktop access though, so you should do fine. On 3/25/07, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: servers, firewall, domain, dns,... Don't burn your hands if it is all new to you. Just let the IT guy do it (you can even make profit on that) , or try it first at home. But I don't really know your client an budget Seth Caldwell wrote: Its easy enough - is it Apache or IIS? Installation for php still has the occasional hiccup over needing to move some files into the windows directory, or not realizing older versions of dll's from previous php installations are there and screwing up your new versions install. And sometimes IIS is a bit more painful than the apache installation. I say go for it, if it takes more than an hour then get the IT guy ;0 Seth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Mennenoh Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:03 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL? Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jason Cordial VIA 2 Lab Grunt - Waist deep beneath the borderline... Life is a euhemerism... http://bsu.edu/blogcaster2/jason/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
Thanks everyone, for the advice. They're giving remote desktop access, so I'm going to install and see how it goes... Anyone know a good SQL group? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Security shouldn't be taking lightly, if you leave something open where your client's machine vulnerable and in fact gets broken into you (or your company) will be liable. If you have an IT department let them do it thats what they get paid for, you wouldn't like the IT department designing your next site ;) Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
servers, firewall, domain, dns,... Don't burn your hands if it is all new to you. Just let the IT guy do it (you can even make profit on that) , or try it first at home. But I don't really know your client an budget Seth Caldwell wrote: Its easy enough - is it Apache or IIS? Installation for php still has the occasional hiccup over needing to move some files into the windows directory, or not realizing older versions of dll's from previous php installations are there and screwing up your new versions install. And sometimes IIS is a bit more painful than the apache installation. I say go for it, if it takes more than an hour then get the IT guy ;0 Seth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Mennenoh Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:03 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL? Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
Its easy enough - is it Apache or IIS? Installation for php still has the occasional hiccup over needing to move some files into the windows directory, or not realizing older versions of dll's from previous php installations are there and screwing up your new versions install. And sometimes IIS is a bit more painful than the apache installation. I say go for it, if it takes more than an hour then get the IT guy ;0 Seth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Mennenoh Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:03 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL? Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP MySQL on a remote server
Dave i allready have answered this question to you in your prev post... Your posts deliver, dont worry, but u were asking about installing php on your local machine.. In order to have it on the server you have to upgrade it accordingly to your hosting provider On 3/22/07, Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this ends up coming through twice, but I sent it 2.5 hours ago and it hasn't reached the list yet. Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
ah sorry i've got your question wrong... I thought u needed to setup php and mysql on your machine for further online testing The link Latcho gave you is good... On 3/22/07, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html Dave Mennenoh wrote: Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
You should use xampp installer only for developing. Is not really secure in production stage. ___ Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorio http://www.13bit.com.ar MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Latcho Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:27 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL? http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html Dave Mennenoh wrote: Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP MySQL on a remote server
I did the installation of php and mysql in my computer(mac) using the terminal, but when I learned, I did it on linux, so it is not much different in both, but in windows I guess in php.org or mysql.org, there is the .exe files to install the programs. In mac and linux wasn't much different in both the compiler tells you what is wrong and what you might need, I don't have any clues in windows systems, but go through their websites , they have a lot of tutorials there about how to install over multiple systems and in remote servers. First you'll need shell access (ssh) and root access, then you could install it, using the files you previously have downloaded/uploaded. Regards Gustavo Duenas On Mar 22, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Dave Mennenoh wrote: Sorry if this ends up coming through twice, but I sent it 2.5 hours ago and it hasn't reached the list yet. Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com Gustavo Duenas Creative Director LEFT AND RIGHT SOLUTIONS LLC 1225 w. Beaver St. suite 119 Jacksonville, FL 32204 904 . 2650330 www.leftandrightsolutions.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
Thanks everyone. Both WAMP and XAMPP say they are for testing only, and should not be used for production - which is of course what I need. This will be on IIS, so hopefully it will be doable. I guess I'll attempt installing first and see how it goes. Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html Dave Mennenoh wrote: Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
u can install an emulator on windows that acts as a server,,, something like IIS but for PHP There is a wonderful tool i am using to test php and mysql offline here http://www.uniformserver.com/ Good Luck!!! On 3/22/07, Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Installing PHP, MySQL?
I've installed them on a few of my own machines at home, and it's not difficult at all. Installing in on IIS was actually a bit easier than installing it on Apache. --- Dave Mennenoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any experience in this area? We're developing a Flash site for a new client, who keeps all their own web servers in-house. They are MS house using .net and such. They are setting up a new server just for their new site, and since they are not familiar with PHP or MySQL (which is what we develop with) they are asking us to install them. They will give us remote access to the server... How hard / not-hard is it to install PHP and MySQL on a remote server? Anything to be weary of? Is it something I should just skip attempting and hire an IT guy to do it? Dave - Head Developer www.blurredistinction.com Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
