Re: [flexcoders] Why Flex now?
Yeah I thought about that too, it's kind of weird because there's this just-released talk from MAX on adobe.tv about the Spoon project and how much mutual trust was required and how it took a year of hard work to get where they are, where Adobe will trust them to contribute patches and stuff; now all those people must feel a bit stupid for doing all that work to convince Adobe, since someone just decided to hand over the entire responsibility for the code anyway. But maybe it will work out because now the Spoon project has an organised structure ready to go, which is handy. Reading into these things, it seems that some higher-level people made business decisions which by necessity happen suddenly, and everyone else in the company found out just as suddenly as us. The article you mention probably genuinely was the plan at the time it was written. There is quite a strong feeling that HTML5 simply can't replace Flex yet; and as for future it is pure conjecture, no-one knows. Who knows, maybe the community will do a better job with the Flex codebase than Adobe themselves did? If you watch the Spoon talk you read about the incredible problems faced by contributors who contributed patches but no-one at Adobe ever reviewed them or contributed them - now this might all change for the better. Let's see what happens... Here's the link by the way: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2011-develop/open-source-flex-what-the-spoon-project-means-to-you/ Oh - I just noticed a notice on the Spoon site about it: http://www.spoon.as/2011/adobe-announces-intention-to-donate-flex-sdk/. So apparently they are excited - fair enough they wanted to be able to actually commit their changes and now they will be able to. I would encourage everyone to stay calm and see how things develop over the next six months. By then we'll start to see whether the Apache project takes off. I think there's a distinct possibility that Adobe will try and translate Flash Builder into Flash or HTML5 Builder (with a classier name of course) - after all you've got a lot of Flex-skilled people that would immediately buy it. John 2011/11/15 Farid Shahlavi fshahl...@gmail.com ** This is basically all the rats abandoning ship in my opinion, here's an article from just over a month ago from Adobe that completely contradicts what they announced last Friday, how is this possible that they didn't have foresight to see this coming,?! http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/08/flex-where-were-headed.html Farid On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Haykel BEN JEMIA hayke...@gmail.comwrote: ** Because today HTML5 is not yet ready and will not be ready for the next 5-10 years in my opinion. There are still many things you can only do in Flash and many other that are very difficult to do with HTML5. In my opinion HTML5 is a hype anyway, some new tags, css and js elements and functions. Browser-compatibility, layout, animation, video and much more is handled very easily with Flex/Flash. Should we replace the strong-typed and compiled AS 3 language with JavaScript? I'm working on a video chat application that uses FMS and P2P multicats, can you do that with HTML?? Personnally I don't think Flex is dead, the Flex community will continue to implement it and there will be some companies offering support for it. Only when Adobe stops the development of the Flash player for the Desktop I will say that Flash is really dead. Let's help the Spoon project and make Flex better than ever! Haykel Ben Jemia Allmas Web RIA Development http://www.allmas-tn.com On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Rick Schmitty flexc...@gmail.comwrote: ** I've been a Flex developer since it's first beta however many years ago. Today I just saw this response from Adobe: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html *Does Adobe recommend we use Flex or HTML5 for our enterprise application development? *In the long-term, *we believe HTML5 will be the best technology for enterprise application development*. We also know that, currently, Flex has clear benefits for large-scale client projects typically associated with desktop application profiles. Given our experiences innovating on Flex, we are extremely well positioned to positively contribute to the advancement of HTML5 development, starting with mobile applications. In fact, *many of the engineers and product managers who worked on Flex SDK will be moving to work on our HTML efforts*. We will continue making significant contributions to open web technologies like WebKit jQuery, advance the development of PhoneGap and create new tools that solve the challenges developers face when building applications with HTML5. Emphasis mine. If anyone has followed any game or application development where 'many members' of the team are switched to the next greatest thing, that normally means there are few maintenance developers for the existing product and not much new innovation
[flexcoders] Re: Why Flex now?
That statement is updated today. Checkout the same link: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Rick Schmitty flexcode@... wrote: I've been a Flex developer since it's first beta however many years ago. Today I just saw this response from Adobe: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html *Does Adobe recommend we use Flex or HTML5 for our enterprise application development? *In the long-term, *we believe HTML5 will be the best technology for enterprise application development*. We also know that, currently, Flex has clear benefits for large-scale client projects typically associated with desktop application profiles. Given our experiences innovating on Flex, we are extremely well positioned to positively contribute to the advancement of HTML5 development, starting with mobile applications. In fact, *many of the engineers and product managers who worked on Flex SDK will be moving to work on our HTML efforts *. We will continue making significant contributions to open web technologies like WebKit jQuery, advance the development of PhoneGap and create new tools that solve the challenges developers face when building applications with HTML5. Emphasis mine. If anyone has followed any game or application development where 'many members' of the team are switched to the next greatest thing, that normally means there are few maintenance developers for the existing product and not much new innovation to it. The company wants its best and brightest working on its future, not supporting its past. Combine that with the facts that Adobe bought PhoneGap and released Edge preview. It's not hard to put all these facts together and see that long term they want an IDE framework for app development in HTML5. Perhaps Flex5 will be an HTML5 version of Flex as they start putting together html5 components Outside of having to support IE6 why would you choose to start a project in Flex today?
[flexcoders] Rich Reach
Flex is richer. HTML5 promises greater reach. --Bill
[flexcoders] Re: Examining static variables when debugging with Flash Builder
You have to create a variable of type Global somewhere in your code before you
can use the class variable x.
The Flash Builder compiler is Smart. If you explicitly import a class but
then don't use it the compiler will not import the class. To do so would bloat
the code for something that is not used.
As x is a static variable (ie. class variable) you would need to use the class
to get access to x. ie. Global.x
After you create the variable you don't need to use that variable. In fact, the
variable will be null. Global will not appear in the Variables view as it is
not a variable - it is a class. To see x in debug you would need to create an
expression - Global.x
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, William Mitchell whm@... wrote:
I've got a class like this:
package tos.model
{
public class Global
{
public static var x:int
}
}
when at a breakpoint in Flash Builder 4.5, I'd like to find out what the
value of Global.x is.
Global doesn't appear in the Variables view.
I've tried adding watches for Global, Global.x, tos.model.Global, and
tos.model.Global.x. All produce 'error(s)_during_the_evaluation' in red in
the Value column.
Any ideas on how I could get a look at Global.x?
William Mitchell
Research Programmer
School of Information: Science, Technology, and Arts
The University of Arizona
[flexcoders] Spark Datagrid - Show all rows using requestedRowCount variableRowHeight=true
I have a Flex Spark Datagrid that has variableRowHeight set to true. I also have the requestedRowCount set to the length of the dataProvider. So, in theory the rows shown should be the same number in the dataprovider(Arraycollection). However, the problem is that due to having variableRowHeight=true and some rows being multiline, in some instances, all of the rows are not getting shown. Suggestions on how I can fix this issue? Thanks, in advance.
[flexcoders] No, Flex Flash Are Not Dead
http://www.tricedesigns.com/2011/11/16/no-flex-flash-are-not-dead/
Re: [flexcoders] Using Flex Cairnghorm microachitecture with .net class library
Fixed this ! I simply put my .net dll in my web-orb bin folder not in the root. The generated flex code from web orb reads the .net dll from the bin folder not the root. I believe this will help someone someday. Warm Regards Tunde Majolagbe +2348028320370, 018782170. *Exchange a Dollar, we still have ONE each, exchange an idea, we have TWO each. *Calm Down!!! It’s just a mirage, like other worries it will soon fade away. From: Tunde Majolagbe olatunde...@yahoo.co.uk To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Cc: tunde clasi tunde.majola...@classiclink.biz Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 7:17 Subject: [flexcoders] Using Flex Cairnghorm microachitecture with .net class library Hello All, Has anyone used cairnghorm micro framework to write scripts that retrieves data from dot net dll. I cant connect my flex cairnghorm side with my dotnet code even after generating the required cairnghorm action script from the web orb console is there something wrong with my config file or are my not setting a compiler parameter ? [which is -services services-config.xml -locale en_US ] What can i be doing wrong? Warm Regards Tunde Majolagbe +2348028320370, 018782170. *Exchange a Dollar, we still have ONE each, exchange an idea, we have TWO each. *Calm Down!!! It’s just a mirage, like other worries it will soon fade away.
[flexcoders] Re: Examining static variables when debugging with Flash Builder
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, valdhor valdhorlists@... wrote: You have to create a variable of type Global somewhere in your code before you can use the class variable x. valdhor: Thanks for that note. I'd tried to boil the question to its essence. In the real app, various static members of Global are used in various places. However, your note did prompt me to add this field in the application (tos.mxml): public static var global: Global = new Global That produces an interesting result: tos.global.x in the Expressions view shows me the data of interest, giving me a viable workaround. But Global.x in the Expressions view produces the same result: error(s)_during_the_evaluation
