Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
On Monday 31 July 2006 15:41, Evan Gifford wrote: Yeah, I think you're right on, which leaves us at the current diagram: http://www.undustrial.com/flexdocs/cairngorm.gif That's cool. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
On Friday 28 July 2006 16:15, Evan Gifford wrote: Would it work if I put, say ... a few other technologies such as GDLib on Linux with Perl and MySQL, Oracle on J2EE and PDF generation working on IIS with MSSQL? Again, I think it's clutter that isn't needed, just labelling with a diverse range of O/S and application servers is enough. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Again, I think it's clutter that isn't needed, just labelling with a diverse range of O/S and application servers is enough. -- Tom Chiverton Yeah, I think you're right on, which leaves us at the current diagram: http://www.undustrial.com/flexdocs/cairngorm.gif Any other changes/suggestions/recommendations? I'd like to upload the Visio document as well as a couple .Gifs Wednesday. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:42, Evan Gifford wrote: What else am I missing? How come only the IIS server gets a database symbol :-) I'd drop them from IIS myself - it's not important what the service does. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Hey Tom, you're probably right about removing the database icons. I was trying to show the diversity of technologies and services which Flex can integrate into a single, seamless presentation-tier. I wanted this to really look like a diverse, service orientated architecture and so tried to differentiate the servers with a database icon. Would it work if I put, say ... a few other technologies such as GDLib on Linux with Perl and MySQL, Oracle on J2EE and PDF generation working on IIS with MSSQL? Views? Also, I'm a little confused about Views. Since this diagram does not (yet) include the ViewHelper and ViewLocator, should I have the views labeled as Views, or should they just be a datagrid-like-thing and a form, updated by databinding? I have done the following: -Removed database icons from IIS Server -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:08 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:42, Evan Gifford wrote: What else am I missing? How come only the IIS server gets a database symbol :-) I'd drop them from IIS myself - it's not important what the service does. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Also, I'm a little confused about Views. Since this diagram does not (yet) include the ViewHelper and ViewLocator Leave 'em out. Then people will stop asking about 'em and I'll stop having to blog every 4 weeks about the ModelLocator pattern. :) Steven -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Rodger that :^) - Ive taken out the Views label on the TitleWindow From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:21 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Also, I'm a little confused about Views. Since this diagram does not (yet) include the ViewHelper and ViewLocator Leave 'em out. Then people will stop asking about 'em and I'll stop having to blog every 4 weeks about the ModelLocator pattern. :) Steven __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
As for application server side technologies, you might just put : - .NET, - J2EE, - LAMP. It would cover 99% of them... ;) Benoit Hediard -Message d'origine- De : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Evan Gifford Envoyé : vendredi 28 juillet 2006 17:16 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Hey Tom, you're probably right about removing the database icons. I was trying to show the diversity of technologies and services which Flex can integrate into a single, seamless presentation-tier. I wanted this to really look like a diverse, service orientated architecture and so tried to differentiate the servers with a database icon. Would it work if I put, say ... a few other technologies such as GDLib on Linux with Perl and MySQL, Oracle on J2EE and PDF generation working on IIS with MSSQL? Views? Also, I'm a little confused about Views. Since this diagram does not (yet) include the ViewHelper and ViewLocator, should I have the views labeled as Views, or should they just be a datagrid-like-thing and a form, updated by databinding? I have done the following: -Removed database icons from IIS Server -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:08 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:42, Evan Gifford wrote: What else am I missing? How come only the IIS server gets a database symbol :-) I'd drop them from IIS myself - it's not important what the service does. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Im going to be up in the Rocky Mountains this weekend backpacking and climbing a couple 14ers with my good friends (rough life eh?) ;^) As such, I wont be working on this diagram over the weekend but I anxiously await all of your feedback and I will get back on it on Monday. Have a great weekend! Evan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:31 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Rodger that :^) - Ive taken out the Views label on the TitleWindow From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Also, I'm a little confused about Views. Since this diagram does not (yet) include the ViewHelper and ViewLocator Leave 'em out. Then people will stop asking about 'em and I'll stop having to blog every 4 weeks about the ModelLocator pattern. :) Steven -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Alright, thank for your feedback guys! I've updated this Cairngorm diagram, but I still desperately need some authoritative feedback: Please check the updated diagram here: http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.gif Thanks Guys, I'll send you all a high-res PDF when it's ready to rock. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:37 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Awesome, exactly the feedback I needed, thanks Jester! I'll put the service locator in there today. I'll also put some design love into this guy too. Please, any and ALL suggestions, comments or changes are needed and welcome. Let's make this the Flexcoders cairngorm poster! You guys rock! -Evan -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Evan, This diagram looks great; conceptually I think you have it captured. A few thoughts: 1. Steven, not Stephen ;) 2. Might it make more sense visually to have the controller strip in between the model and the view ? But then again, that's why I'm not working in our UX practice... ;) 3. In your view strip, another type Caringorm instead of Cairngorm. Great work though - will you keep this in a consistent place, so we can link to this from www.adobe.com/go/cairngorm/ ? Good work, Steven Steven Webster Practice Leader (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: 27 July 2006 16:32 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Alright, thank for your feedback guys! I've updated this Cairngorm diagram, but I still desperately need some authoritative feedback: Please check the updated diagram here: http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.gif Thanks Guys, I'll send you all a high-res PDF when it's ready to rock. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:37 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Awesome, exactly the feedback I needed, thanks Jester! I'll put the service locator in there today. I'll also put some design love into this guy too. Please, any and ALL suggestions, comments or changes are needed and welcome. Let's make this the Flexcoders cairngorm poster! You guys rock! -Evan -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
One thing that seems to be missing from this diagram is the concept of Cairngorm views. Indicating that the contact form and the contact list (from your diagram) are separate *view* classes/objects would be nice. Excellent job by the way -- you've done a great job visually representing the microarchitecture! If you look at the com.adobe.cairngorm (v. 2) folder structure, the following concepts emerge, most of which are well represented on your diagram: business: Service Locator (done) Business Delegate (done) Responder (implied - not sure if needs to be explicitly diagramed) commands: Command / Sequence Command (done - at least single commands) control: Front Controller (done) Cairngorm Event (done) Cairngorm Event Dispatcher (implied?) model: Model Locator (done) view: View (highlighting the contact form and list as different views would do the trick) View Locator / View Helper (??? - not sure about these...) vo: Value Object (done) -Dan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Evan Gifford Sent: Thu 7/27/2006 11:32 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Alright, thank for your feedback guys! I've updated this Cairngorm diagram, but I still desperately need some authoritative feedback: Please check the updated diagram here: http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.gif Thanks Guys, I'll send you all a high-res PDF when it's ready to rock. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:37 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Awesome, exactly the feedback I needed, thanks Jester! I'll put the service locator in there today. I'll also put some design love into this guy too. Please, any and ALL suggestions, comments or changes are needed and welcome. Let's make this the Flexcoders cairngorm poster! You guys rock! -Evan -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Awesome! I knew there must have been a diagram posted here before. Thanks Koen! Ill incorporate the best parts of this, but I think this chart can benefit from the separation of the MVC as layers in the diagram. Since Im fairly new to the MVC separation of classes, I tried to incorporate this into the diagram. Also, Ill happily pass along the Visio document to anyone who would like to help, either with colors, shapes or organization, please dont hesitate to ring in. We can play Visio-Tennis. ;^) -Evan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Koen Van Hasselt Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:04 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! An excellent Flow Chart (to my opinion) was posted on this forum some time ago ... check this out: http://www.corbell.com.au/docs/Cairngorm%20flow%20chart.pdf It's made by Russel Munro, based on Steven's Cairngorm articles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2006 0:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Awesome, Thanks Steven! Ill make the changes from Dan and re-submit! :^) I know your vocabulary is as precise as a laser beam, so did I get all the terminology correct? I.E. Enlist the appropriate command, enlists the application-tier service and Business Delegate relays response back to command (Please keep in mind that I have no experience with Cairngorm as of yet, which is why Im not entirely confident with the terminology) As far as hosting goes, you can have the source file and do with it what you want, but I am also happy to host it. Ill send you all permanent URL soon as its finished and uploaded. Thanks again! -Evan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:41 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Evan, This diagram looks great; conceptually I think you have it captured. A few thoughts: 1. Steven, not Stephen ;) 2. Might it make more sense visually to have the controller strip in between the model and the view ? But then again, that's why I'm not working in our UX practice... ;) 3. In your view strip, another type Caringorm instead of Cairngorm. Great work though - will you keep this in a consistent place, so we can link to this from www.adobe.com/go/cairngorm/ ? Good work, Steven Steven Webster Practice Leader (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED]com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: 27 July 2006 16:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Alright, thank for your feedback guys! I've updated this Cairngorm diagram, but I still desperately need some authoritative feedback: Please check the updated diagram here: http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.gif Thanks Guys, I'll send you all a high-res PDF when it's ready to rock. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Awesome, exactly the feedback I needed, thanks Jester! I'll put the service locator in there today. I'll also put some design love into this guy too. Please, any and ALL suggestions, comments or changes are needed and welcome. Let's make this the Flexcoders cairngorm poster! You guys rock! -Evan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]ams.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
An excellent Flow Chart (to my opinion) was posted on this forum some time ago ... check this out: http://www.corbell.com.au/docs/Cairngorm%20flow%20chart.pdf It's made by Russel Munro, based on Steven's Cairngorm articles. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gifford Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2006 0:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WktRrD/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Awesome, exactly the feedback I needed, thanks Jester! I'll put the service locator in there today. I'll also put some design love into this guy too. Please, any and ALL suggestions, comments or changes are needed and welcome. Let's make this the Flexcoders cairngorm poster! You guys rock! -Evan -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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That rocks! Make sure you do a hi-res version so I can hang it on my office door :-) Mike Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/3EuRwD/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster!
Only change homey is: - Command creates Delegate, and calls method on it, passing itself (usually) in as a responder - Delegate gets service from ServiceLocator, and then calls server - upon response, either massages it (via Factory) or just simply gives it back as is to the Command All in all, your diagram is pretty effective in showing the seperation as well as the circular nature. I agree with Mike; make that mofo bigger! - Original Message - From: Evan Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Caringorm - Visual Flowchart Poster! My fellow Flexcoders! After reading Steven's excellent article covering the Cairngorm architecture ( Start the 6-part series here - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html ) I've started creating a flowchart tracing a Cairngorm Event from the Event Broadcaster with a data payload through the cairngorm process: Work in progress - you'll get the idea at least - http://www.undustrial.com/cairngorm.jpg This starts with the Front Controller, then to a Command Class, to the Service Locater and to the server . then back to the Command Class to the Model Locater and finally back to the view through data binding . hmm, I think that's right? Anyway, it occurs to me that someone may have already done this? If so, will you please post so I can make it into a poster (for re-post!)? If not, would someone be willing to collaborate with me (I'm totally new cairngorm)? Being half-designer-half-programmer, I'd love to create a downloadable PDF for us Flexcoders to use! Thanks! Evan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/7EuRwD/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
