RE: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
If you've ever done support though you'll know how many times someone will say they're using the official release when later they remember that oh yeah, I did try that experiment a few weeks ago and must have forgotten to undo it :-) We are not against the idea, but it will take time for us to figure out the right way to do it so that expectations can be managed and we can continue to be responsive. Matt -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:47 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN? On Wednesday 21 June 2006 22:24, Matt Chotin wrote: things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework were available. That's easy :-) Only offical releases and/or tags are supported. Daily builds/trunk aren't - use at own risk. I think many people would be happy with that. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
I love the SVN idea. And you dont even need to post interim code, just official releases. This would allow us to update our projects in a very natural way. Of course it would be great to get unofficial bug fixes, but that shouldnt prevent you from publishing updates in a more modern way. They are two separate issues. Hank.On 6/23/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've ever done support though you'll know how many times someonewill say they're using the official release when later they rememberthat oh yeah, I did try that experiment a few weeks ago and must have forgotten to undo it :-)We are not against the idea, but it will take time for us to figure outthe right way to do it so that expectations can be managed and we cancontinue to be responsive.Matt -Original Message-From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:47 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Frameworkavailable trough SVN? On Wednesday 21 June 2006 22:24, Matt Chotin wrote: things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework wereavailable.That's easy :-) Only offical releases and/or tags are supported.Daily builds/trunk aren't - use at own risk.I think many people would be happy with that.--Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in Englandand Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered officeaddress is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Anyreference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member ofHalliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society.CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above andmay be confidential or legally privileged.If you are not the addresseeyou must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addresseeof its existence or contents.If you have received this email in errorplease delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008.For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyerof the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.See the new email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM~- --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
Yes, you say it, Hank, SVN is the modern way we use today to get lastest updates of our favourite projects, I think it will be the best option available. Hope Matt and others select that way finaly :) On 6/23/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the SVN idea. And you dont even need to post interim code, just official releases. This would allow us to update our projects in a very natural way. Of course it would be great to get unofficial bug fixes, but that shouldnt prevent you from publishing updates in a more modern way. They are two separate issues. Hank.On 6/23/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've ever done support though you'll know how many times someonewill say they're using the official release when later they rememberthat oh yeah, I did try that experiment a few weeks ago and must have forgotten to undo it :-)We are not against the idea, but it will take time for us to figure outthe right way to do it so that expectations can be managed and we cancontinue to be responsive. Matt -Original Message-From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:47 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN? On Wednesday 21 June 2006 22:24, Matt Chotin wrote: things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework wereavailable.That's easy :-) Only offical releases and/or tags are supported.Daily builds/trunk aren't - use at own risk.I think many people would be happy with that.--Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in Englandand Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered officeaddress is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Anyreference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member ofHalliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society.CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above andmay be confidential or legally privileged.If you are not the addresseeyou must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addresseeof its existence or contents.If you have received this email in errorplease delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008.For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.See the new email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ::| Carlos Rovira::| http://www.carlosrovira.com __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 22:24, Matt Chotin wrote: things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework were available. That's easy :-) Only offical releases and/or tags are supported. Daily builds/trunk aren't - use at own risk. I think many people would be happy with that. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
Sounds good ;), but maybe Matt would consider something moreOn 6/22/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Wednesday 21 June 2006 22:24, Matt Chotin wrote: things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework were available.That's easy :-)Only offical releases and/or tags are supported.Daily builds/trunk aren't - use at own risk.I think many people would be happy with that. --Tom ChivertonThis email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITYThis email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged.If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents.If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Something is new at Yahoo! Groups.Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ::| Carlos Rovira::| http://www.carlosrovira.com __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
We are certainly looking into things like this for the future but havent figured out the exact right thing to do. There are plenty of things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework were available. We do have plans to release updates more frequently in general. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Rovira Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:19 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN? Hi, I want to point to the great post by Joe Berkovitz about the tree bugs in the last Beta3. Other bugs can be find as well in some mails to this list, and other blogs out there. I found as well working with the tree a little frustrating, and knowing that there's a lot of bugs, I decided to wait for next SDK release. But...this way of getting bugs fixeds seems a little slow, don't you think? I'd want to know if people at Adobe thinks about this as I'm sure that we don't want to live again the same problems in flash mx 2004 v2 components to --- flex 1.5 framework. I'm talking about a way to get updates as soon as Adobe engineers fix the bugs. As the framework is free but no open source, Adobe control the source and we could send patches, but they can use that users patches or not...that's ok. But we could put the framework in SVN and available to all of us so we could get changes as soon they upload a patch. I want to know if all of this makes sense. This method will end with : 1.- waiting until next release. we need more dinamic approach 2.- Avoid to have a framework full of bugs as old framework version since v2 to current days. Hope this idea make sense, and we could get less frustrated as we work with the framework... -- ::| Carlos Rovira ::| http://www.carlosrovira.com __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN?
Great to here that Matt, that will ensure a long live for Flex and finish with a lot of frustration when working with this excelent framework.Thanks again for listening : )C. On 6/21/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are certainly looking into things like this for the future but haven't figured out the exact right thing to do. There are plenty of things that we would need to be concerned about from a support perspective if essentially daily builds of the framework were available. We do have plans to release updates more frequently in general. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Rovira Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:19 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] [F2B3] Could Adobe make Flex Framework available trough SVN? Hi, I want to point to the great post by Joe Berkovitz about the tree bugs in the last Beta3. Other bugs can be find as well in some mails to this list, and other blogs out there. I found as well working with the tree a little frustrating, and knowing that there's a lot of bugs, I decided to wait for next SDK release. But...this way of getting bugs fixeds seems a little slow, don't you think? I'd want to know if people at Adobe thinks about this as I'm sure that we don't want to live again the same problems in flash mx 2004 v2 components to --- flex 1.5 framework. I'm talking about a way to get updates as soon as Adobe engineers fix the bugs. As the framework is free but no open source, Adobe control the source and we could send patches, but they can use that users patches or not...that's ok. But we could put the framework in SVN and available to all of us so we could get changes as soon they upload a patch. I want to know if all of this makes sense. This method will end with : 1.- waiting until next release. we need more dinamic approach 2.- Avoid to have a framework full of bugs as old framework version since v2 to current days. Hope this idea make sense, and we could get less frustrated as we work with the framework... -- ::| Carlos Rovira ::| http://www.carlosrovira.com -- ::| Carlos Rovira::| http://www.carlosrovira.com __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
