Re: [flexcoders] Re: Training Courses
I'm an Adobe Certified Instructor and I can tell you that the instructor makes all of the difference. I'm not sure where you took your class but my former employer Fig Leaf Software is one of the best providers of onsite and hands-on training. I think self paced training is good, but it lacks the interaction with an instructor. If you can afford training I suggest something like lynda.com to augment the class. You should read and watch videos so you can challenge your instructor... Just my two cents. -Jason On Oct 9, 2009, at 1:31 PM, valdhor wrote: Just as an aside, I don't think much of the Adobe Certified Training companies. Our company purchased training for ten people here and I sat in on it (I had about six months of self taught Flex at the time). Basically the course consisted of running through the Flex 3 Training from the Source book. You could have gotten just as much at a lot less cost by reading that book. As far as the trainer; I knew way more than he did. The online video's and reference are a much better learning material than any other I have seen. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dan Pride danielpr...@... wrote: The Lynda.com courses are basic but quite good. There is also a wealth of free video training on adobe such as http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/ If your department needs some on line help getting started there are a number of people up here who would be interested (including me :)) Dan Pride http://www.danielpride.com --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... wrote: From: Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... Subject: [flexcoders] Training Courses To: flexcoders flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:43 PM Hi, My boss was wondering if there are any recommended training courses for flex. We are based in Gibraltar but I don't think traveling is an issue. Personally I'd like to see some kind of certification out of it. Any recommended courses? I know its vague because I haven't specified a level however the flex abilities of my department are very mixed. Regards, Wes __ Jason Michael Perry ja...@jasonmperry.com www.jasonmperry.com tel: 504-383-FLEX
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Training Courses
Okay some good advise here. Speaking about my own level rather then the others I think I'm pretty competitent, although its hard to be objective about oneself. I've created a few item renderers. I'm pretty happy diving into the framework to try to find more information. Sure I'm not graphic designer but then again thats not my job. So I guess thats an intermediate level? My worry about going somewhere for training is that I wouldn't learn enough to be worth the cost. Regards, Wes On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Jason Michael Perry ja...@jasonmperry.comwrote: I'm an Adobe Certified Instructor and I can tell you that the instructor makes all of the difference. I'm not sure where you took your class but my former employer Fig Leaf Software is one of the best providers of onsite and hands-on training. I think self paced training is good, but it lacks the interaction with an instructor. If you can afford training I suggest something like lynda.comto augment the class. You should read and watch videos so you can challenge your instructor... Just my two cents. -Jason On Oct 9, 2009, at 1:31 PM, valdhor wrote: Just as an aside, I don't think much of the Adobe Certified Training companies. Our company purchased training for ten people here and I sat in on it (I had about six months of self taught Flex at the time). Basically the course consisted of running through the Flex 3 Training from the Source book. You could have gotten just as much at a lot less cost by reading that book. As far as the trainer; I knew way more than he did. The online video's and reference are a much better learning material than any other I have seen. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Dan Pride danielpr...@... wrote: The Lynda.com courses are basic but quite good. There is also a wealth of free video training on adobe such as http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/ If your department needs some on line help getting started there are a number of people up here who would be interested (including me :)) Dan Pride http://www.danielpride.com --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... wrote: From: Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... Subject: [flexcoders] Training Courses To: flexcoders flexcoders@yahoogroups.comflexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:43 PM Hi, My boss was wondering if there are any recommended training courses for flex. We are based in Gibraltar but I don't think traveling is an issue. Personally I'd like to see some kind of certification out of it. Any recommended courses? I know its vague because I haven't specified a level however the flex abilities of my department are very mixed. Regards, Wes __ Jason Michael Perry ja...@jasonmperry.com www.jasonmperry.com tel: 504-383-FLEX
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Training Courses
Well training and books are meant for beginners and intermediate users. As you get more advanced its harder to taylor training classes and books to the specific needs of advanced developers. Someone who is a beginner or intermediate typically wants to learn on a very broad topic. Advanced and upper intermediate folks have very very specific things they want to learn (i.e. Programatic Skins)... That said the Certified Adobe classes are very good. The two main classes are great for newbie to intermediate. The styling class is one of my favorite to teach and delves into more complex topics for advanced and intermediate users. All that said if you look through the outlines and you know everything in the material you probably won't get a ton from hands-on training unless you have a great instructor who knows his stuff Hope this helps... On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@gmail.comwrote: Okay some good advise here. Speaking about my own level rather then the others I think I'm pretty competitent, although its hard to be objective about oneself. I've created a few item renderers. I'm pretty happy diving into the framework to try to find more information. Sure I'm not graphic designer but then again thats not my job. So I guess thats an intermediate level? My worry about going somewhere for training is that I wouldn't learn enough to be worth the cost. Regards, Wes On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Jason Michael Perry ja...@jasonmperry.com wrote: I'm an Adobe Certified Instructor and I can tell you that the instructor makes all of the difference. I'm not sure where you took your class but my former employer Fig Leaf Software is one of the best providers of onsite and hands-on training. I think self paced training is good, but it lacks the interaction with an instructor. If you can afford training I suggest something like lynda.com to augment the class. You should read and watch videos so you can challenge your instructor... Just my two cents. -Jason On Oct 9, 2009, at 1:31 PM, valdhor wrote: Just as an aside, I don't think much of the Adobe Certified Training companies. Our company purchased training for ten people here and I sat in on it (I had about six months of self taught Flex at the time). Basically the course consisted of running through the Flex 3 Training from the Source book. You could have gotten just as much at a lot less cost by reading that book. As far as the trainer; I knew way more than he did. The online video's and reference are a much better learning material than any other I have seen. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Dan Pride danielpr...@... wrote: The Lynda.com courses are basic but quite good. There is also a wealth of free video training on adobe such as http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/videotraining/ If your department needs some on line help getting started there are a number of people up here who would be interested (including me :)) Dan Pride http://www.danielpride.com --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... wrote: From: Wesley Acheson wesley.ache...@... Subject: [flexcoders] Training Courses To: flexcoders flexcoders@yahoogroups.comflexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:43 PM Hi, My boss was wondering if there are any recommended training courses for flex. We are based in Gibraltar but I don't think traveling is an issue. Personally I'd like to see some kind of certification out of it. Any recommended courses? I know its vague because I haven't specified a level however the flex abilities of my department are very mixed. Regards, Wes __ Jason Michael Perry ja...@jasonmperry.com www.jasonmperry.com tel: 504-383-FLEX
