Re: [Flightgear-devel] Running Flightgear on Mac OS X
On 10 Mar 2005, at 05:02, Josh Babcock wrote: I've successfully compiled Flightgear from CVS (thanks for the help), but for some reason it won't run. FlightGear loads and all i see is a Black screen with a white box in the middle (where the splash screen should be). The CPU usage goes to 100% and stays there until i kill fgfs. Sounds like it is using software rendering. Do you have a 3D card and the appropriate driver installed? It would help to know what OS, driver and 3D card you are using. It is pretty much impossible for any recent Mac to use software rendering - even a G3 iBook has some kind of Radeon in it as standard. What this could be is something that caught me ought the first few times - FG is now taking an looong to startup on OS-X, something on the order of 90 seconds on my PowerBook G4 1GHz. The first few times I assumed it had hung, but then I waited and it actually got as far as showing the splash screen. I have spent some time doing some profiling and spot timing of startup, and unfortunately there are no really obviously bad things happening; there's just an awful lot of work to be done, much of it greedily, and it takes a while. If you run with the logging level put back up (as it used to be), you can see all the work that's going on. Of course, your problem could be something completely unrelated - you could run under gdb and ctrl-c once it seems to have stopped, to find out where. HH James -- The lack of planning on your part does not constitute to an emergency on mine ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Running Flightgear on Mac OS X
James Turner wrote: It is pretty much impossible for any recent Mac to use software rendering - even a G3 iBook has some kind of Radeon in it as standard. What this could be is something that caught me ought the first few times - FG is now taking an looong to startup on OS-X, something on the order of 90 seconds on my PowerBook G4 1GHz. The first few times I assumed it had hung, but then I waited and it actually got as far as showing the splash screen. I have spent some time doing some profiling and spot timing of startup, and unfortunately there are no really obviously bad things happening; there's just an awful lot of work to be done, much of it greedily, and it takes a while. If you run with the logging level put back up (as it used to be), you can see all the work that's going on. I've committed a patch from Ima Sudonim against SimGear (sound) that should take care of this. I've had this patch in my inbox for some time, but I'm rather busy lately. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery
jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). We have the model in the database for some days - does anyone bother refining a bit ? Please look here for a thumbnail: http://fgfsdb.stockill.org/modeledit.php?id=161 Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Running Flightgear on Mac OS X
Felix, Erik put into CVS a few hours ago a simgear/sound fix that will fix your problem. You will still see a white box on a black background, but this time it will eventually end with one of the fg startup pictures being shown. The problem was an infinite loop specific to mac os x that only showed up (I think) with gcc 3.3 and greater compilers (which is in the latest dev tools for mac os x) I think. Earlier compilers didn't seem to have this problem (at least for me they didn't 8-)). You can see which version of the compiler you have with gcc --version Mine is: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1671) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. I don't know why it's taking so long to put up a picture on the white box. It will need looking into on one of my better days (darned weather)! 8-) It would definitely be calmer for users (at least THIS user) to see a picture on the splash screen as soon as possible after the white box (or hold displaying the white box until the picture is ready, but then users might think FlightGear is not responding). Perhaps someone could figure out how to display a text message like loading FlightGear-required components. Please wait. in the white box until the picture is ready for display. (All the pictures are cool, but I especially like the triplane picture, BTW). Thanks to Eric for putting this in, and thanks to all the developers for the great flightsim AND for supporting Mac OS X! TTFN (ta-ta for now) Best regards, Ima ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Running Flightgear on Mac OS X
That did it! Rebuilt SimGear and FlightGear and fgfs fired right up...Loaded quickly too. Very nice!!! Thank you guys! Felix On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:53:47 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felix, Erik put into CVS a few hours ago a simgear/sound fix that will fix your problem. You will still see a white box on a black background, but this time it will eventually end with one of the fg startup pictures being shown. The problem was an infinite loop specific to mac os x that only showed up (I think) with gcc 3.3 and greater compilers (which is in the latest dev tools for mac os x) I think. Earlier compilers didn't seem to have this problem (at least for me they didn't 8-)). You can see which version of the compiler you have with gcc --version Mine is: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1671) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. I don't know why it's taking so long to put up a picture on the white box. It will need looking into on one of my better days (darned weather)! 8-) It would definitely be calmer for users (at least THIS user) to see a picture on the splash screen as soon as possible after the white box (or hold displaying the white box until the picture is ready, but then users might think FlightGear is not responding). Perhaps someone could figure out how to display a text message like loading FlightGear-required components. Please wait. in the white box until the picture is ready for display. (All the pictures are cool, but I especially like the triplane picture, BTW). Thanks to Eric for putting this in, and thanks to all the developers for the great flightsim AND for supporting Mac OS X! TTFN (ta-ta for now) Best regards, Ima ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
