[Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005  22:07 +, Martin Spott a crit : 
 Gerard Robin wrote:
 
  Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access  to CVS
  respective changelog entry,
 
   http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/
 
 Look at the recent changes made by Erik,
   Martin.

Because the shorter Jokes are the best we will stop now . 
The game is OVER.

Starting: Wed Jun 1 22:01:09 CDT 2005
Ending: Sat Jun 11 10:26:34 CDT 2005

are the dates of the last cvslogs.

It was saidin an other message
/sim/pause-on-crash to true, then the sim will pause on crash, which
is the same behavior Yasim has, so this should be the default for
FlightGear.  If the user sets the property /sim/reset-on-crash to
true, then the sim will reset on crash.

that does not give any good result on my side.

did you try ???

Good Night

Thanks

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-10 Thread Erik Hofman

Dave Culp wrote:
Just checked in a JSBSim.hxx and JSBSim.cxx to JSBSim CVS that makes crash 
handling user-configurable.  The default behavior is the current 
subterranean flying behavior.  If the user sets the property 
/sim/pause-on-crash to true, then the sim will pause on crash, which is the 
same behavior Yasim has, so this should be the default for FlightGear.  If 
the user sets the property /sim/reset-on-crash to true, then the sim will 
reset on crash.


Personally I would like to see just one property (/sim/reset-on-crash) 
which could be true or false (default for FlightGear). If you update 
JSBSim then I'll update FlightGear accordingly.


Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-10 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005  20:52 -0500, Dave Culp a crit :

 
 As for the /fdm/jsbsim property cloning problem, this has been around for 
 some time now.  Any reset of FlightGear while using a JSBSim aircraft will 
 cause another /fdm/jsbsim node to be created.  I've tried stopping that but 
 have had no luck.  There are several people using properties from 
 /fdm/jsbsim to drive instruments and they are possibly used in some nasal 
 scripts, so this problem breaks some of their panels, and maybe more things.  
 
 
That is not new it is exactly the same error in fgfs-9.8.
An other exemple of consequence:
we cannot start a turbine Engine (737 aircraft).
we can do it the first time after loading==  ignition+n2+starter
 

 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-10 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le vendredi 10 juin 2005  12:33 +0200, Gerard ROBIN a crit : 
 Le jeudi 09 juin 2005  20:52 -0500, Dave Culp a crit :
 
  
  As for the /fdm/jsbsim property cloning problem, this has been around for 
  some time now.  Any reset of FlightGear while using a JSBSim aircraft will 
  cause another /fdm/jsbsim node to be created.  I've tried stopping that 
  but 
  have had no luck.  There are several people using properties from 
  /fdm/jsbsim to drive instruments and they are possibly used in some nasal 
  scripts, so this problem breaks some of their panels, and maybe more 
  things.  
  
  
 That is not new it is exactly the same error in fgfs-9.8.
 An other exemple of consequence:
 we cannot start a turbine Engine (737 aircraft).
 we can do it the first time after loading==  ignition+n2+starter
  
 
Sorry only one part of my message has been sent I repeat.

That is not new it is exactly the same error in fgfs-9.8.
An other exemple of consequence:
we cannot start a turbine Engine (737 aircraft).
we can do it the first time after loading==  ignition+n2+starter

AND, before trying to include a new property that BUG should be solved
Without, the effort to improve the crash-handling in JSB, will be
USELESSLY.




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-10 Thread Andy Ross
Erik Hofman wrote:
 Dave Culp wrote:
  If the user sets the property /sim/pause-on-crash to true, then
  the sim will pause on crash, which is the same behavior Yasim has,
  so this should be the default for FlightGear.  If the user sets the
  property /sim/reset-on-crash to true, then the sim will reset on
  crash.

 Personally I would like to see just one property (/sim/reset-on-crash)
 which could be true or false (default for FlightGear). If you update
 JSBSim then I'll update FlightGear accordingly.

Or /sim/crash-behavior = {none|reset|pause} ?

Andy



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[Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear]

2005-06-10 Thread Gerard Robin
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:13:21 +0200
Le vendredi 10 juin 2005  14:59 -0500, Dave Culp a crit :
 It seems like I misunderstood someone's complaint about JSBSim crash 
 handling.  
 Nobody wants subterranean flying.  This will make the crash handling much 
 cleaner.  We can make pause the default behavior and reset the optional 
 behavior, based on a property reset-on-crash.
 
 Everyone agreed on this?
 
 
 Dave
 
 
 I would not discuss longer and longer about that property.
None of my JSB Aircrafts (including these coming from the community) fly
underground. I have defined the contact points in the Undercarriage,
every one can do it.
It look like the Geometry Yasim definition  with more flexibility.
I am testing the management of crash  by specific animations (clone of
the impressive bo105).

In addition to: 
the JSB contact points definition is very useful for SeaPlane which have
float and landing gear equipment.  (walrus, catalina, goose...)

In that case the float are contact points on which the seaplane stand
when it is on the water (you must have the gears up)
On land the landing gear are down.


I hope that new property will not delete these functionality

 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear]

2005-06-10 Thread Gerard Robin

   
  Nobody wants subterranean flying.  This will make the crash handling much 
  cleaner.  We can make pause the default behavior and reset the optional 
  behavior, based on a property reset-on-crash.
  
  Everyone agreed on this?
  
  
  Dave
  
  

 
 In that case the float are contact points on which the seaplane stand
 when it is on the water (you must have the gears up)
 On land the landing gear are down.
 
 
 I hope that new property will not delete these functionality
 
May i add an other remark? yes ! thank you

With the contact points definitions you can do an emergency landing.
just define the belly  , and you can land gears up in the field of
your choice, your aircraft is on the ground, and, so, you have to wait
for help during that time... a cow is wondering your performance.. 

  
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[Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Culp
Just checked in a JSBSim.hxx and JSBSim.cxx to JSBSim CVS that makes crash 
handling user-configurable.  The default behavior is the current 
subterranean flying behavior.  If the user sets the property 
/sim/pause-on-crash to true, then the sim will pause on crash, which is the 
same behavior Yasim has, so this should be the default for FlightGear.  If 
the user sets the property /sim/reset-on-crash to true, then the sim will 
reset on crash.

As for the /fdm/jsbsim property cloning problem, this has been around for 
some time now.  Any reset of FlightGear while using a JSBSim aircraft will 
cause another /fdm/jsbsim node to be created.  I've tried stopping that but 
have had no luck.  There are several people using properties from 
/fdm/jsbsim to drive instruments and they are possibly used in some nasal 
scripts, so this problem breaks some of their panels, and maybe more things.  


I'm copying this to the flightgear-devel list.


Dave

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