Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 20 December 2004 17:04, Dave Martin wrote:
 On Monday 20 Dec 2004 09:58, Martin Spott wrote:
  Dave Martin wrote:
   Here we are: (screenshots)
 
  Well, after looking at the first shot:
   http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p1.jpg
 
   I thought: Oh, how nice, someone added a C150 to the
  hangar, but
 
  after looking at the last one:
   http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p7.jpg
 
   I am pretty much pleased  ;-)
 
  Thanks,
   Martin.

 As it happens I'd quite like to make a 150/152 model from
 scratch as a fairly high-poly example which would be
 'comfortably' realistic.

 However, I'm watching the development of the PA28-161 for now
 so I can get some tips on setting up 3d panels etc.

I have a very good 3-view for a C-185, if anyone wants to do one 
of those.

LeeE

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote:

 Here we are: (screenshots)

Well, after looking at the first shot:

 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p1.jpg

 I thought: Oh, how nice, someone added a C150 to the hangar, but
after looking at the last one:

 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p7.jpg

 I am pretty much pleased  ;-)

Thanks,
Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-20 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 20 Dec 2004 09:58, Martin Spott wrote:
 Dave Martin wrote:
  Here we are: (screenshots)

 Well, after looking at the first shot:
  http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p1.jpg

  I thought: Oh, how nice, someone added a C150 to the hangar, but

 after looking at the last one:
  http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p7.jpg

  I am pretty much pleased  ;-)

 Thanks,
   Martin.

As it happens I'd quite like to make a 150/152 model from scratch as a fairly 
high-poly example which would be 'comfortably' realistic.

However, I'm watching the development of the PA28-161 for now so I can get 
some tips on setting up 3d panels etc.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Dave Martin
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 20:54, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
 On Sunday 19 December 2004 19:46, Dave Martin wrote:
  Any feedback you can give me is greatly appreciated :-)

 The Compass is invisible from outside. You can fix this by adding a name
 tag to the part where the compass model gets included, and then adding it
 to the bottom of the InteriorGroup group, around line 330 in
 Models/c172p.xml. When you can see the compass from the outside you will
 see that it floats in mid air over the glareshield, so you might want to
 move it down a bit.

 Also the instruments are floating a few cm from the panel, this is evident
 when you look at it at an angle. You can remove the PanelInstruments and
 ControlsGroup warnings if you remove all references to PanelInstruments in
 Models/c172p.xml.

 It is still possible to see the instruments through the nav- and
 beacon-lights. But I guess this is something that has to be fixed in the
 code.

Cheers, I'll have a look at those points. I noticed the instrument lights 
showing through but they don't have a texture so my trick with the panel wont 
work. :(

Also of note; the panel being too far out means that I've totally mucked up my 
geometries :-S Oh well, my own fault ;)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 19 December 2004 22:32, Dave Martin wrote:
 Also of note; the panel being too far out means that I've totally mucked up
 my geometries :-S Oh well, my own fault ;)

Note that I'm talking about the 2d instrument panel that is included, _not_ 
the panel in the 3d model. It should be quite easy to get the x-coordinate 
right for the 2d instrument panel. Simply set it to the same as the 
x-coordinate for any vertex on the panel face.

-- 
Roy Vegard Ovesen

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Jon Berndt
Screen shot? :-)

Jon

 
 If you'd like to try the c172p you can grab it here: 
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p.tar.gz (extract in your /data/Aircraft 
 folder but back-up your existing 172p first! ;) )
 
 Any feedback you can give me is greatly appreciated :-)
 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Dave Martin
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 21:36, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
 On Sunday 19 December 2004 22:32, Dave Martin wrote:
  Also of note; the panel being too far out means that I've totally mucked
  up my geometries :-S Oh well, my own fault ;)

 Note that I'm talking about the 2d instrument panel that is included, _not_
 the panel in the 3d model. It should be quite easy to get the x-coordinate
 right for the 2d instrument panel. Simply set it to the same as the
 x-coordinate for any vertex on the panel face.

I follow you; but the reason that the geometry is wrong is due to the 
instrument sizes (ie: they appeared larger when closer to you). So I've 
repositioned them all anyway - looks better to my eye now and a comparison 
with my large-scale photo of my friends 'P' cockpit looks pretty 
accurate. :-)

I've changed the wingtips slightly now (the nav-lights will need totally 
re-doing but that can wait till the landing+taxi lights get started).

I've uploaded the fixes: http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p.tar.gz

On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 22:03, Jon Berndt wrote:
 Screen shot? :-)

 Jon

Coming up shortly :)


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Dave Martin
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 22:03, Jon Berndt wrote:
 Screen shot? :-)

 Jon

Here we are: (screenshots)

http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p1.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p2.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p3.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p4.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p5.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p6.jpg
http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p7.jpg

But you really need to try the model to see how I've really changed it.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Dave Martin

On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 21:36, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
  On Sunday 19 December 2004 22:32, Dave Martin wrote:
   Also of note; the panel being too far out means that I've totally
   mucked up my geometries :-S Oh well, my own fault ;)
 
  Note that I'm talking about the 2d instrument panel that is included,
  _not_ the panel in the 3d model. It should be quite easy to get the
  x-coordinate right for the 2d instrument panel. Simply set it to the same
  as the x-coordinate for any vertex on the panel face.


Mean to say that I also made the compass visible; you're instructions were 
great, I'd never have figured out how to do it ;)

I've also slightly embedded to compass into the dash as it looks quite 
realistic like that as if it is sat on the fairing.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Jon Berndt
Pretty!

Jon

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 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 22:03, Jon Berndt wrote:
  Screen shot? :-)
 
  Jon
 
 Here we are: (screenshots)
 
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p1.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p2.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p3.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p4.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p5.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p6.jpg
 http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p7.jpg
 
 But you really need to try the model to see how I've really changed it.
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] My 172P work for appraisal

2004-12-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
That will be nice.

Ampere

On December 19, 2004 05:03 pm, Jon Berndt wrote:
 Screen shot? :-)

 Jon

  If you'd like to try the c172p you can grab it here:
  http://www.cyfinity.com/fgfs/c172p.tar.gz (extract in your /data/Aircraft
  folder but back-up your existing 172p first! ;) )
 
  Any feedback you can give me is greatly appreciated :-)

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