[Flightgear-devel] Re: PA24-250 model under development
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 December 2005 10:13: Blender is clever, but almost impossible to use. Oh, sure. That must be why the Concorde, the Bo105 and several others were done with Blender. This opinion is common under people who didn't have the patience to learn a new interface. Yes, it's overwhelming at first, but it's *very* efficient once you understood it. Reading one or two tutorials (plenty available on the net) and asking a few questions here or in our IRC channel should be enough to grok Blender. Blender is literally a professional tool, not only in the buzzword sense. It was written and used by a graphics studio that did commercial animations for advertisement purposes and such. Then it was freed and is now GPL'ed. It is fully scriptable in Python and there are scripts available for specific FlightGear development purposes. This here[1] writes FlightGear animation XML fragments and whole XML animation files. There are many other scripts available, too. You can directly ray-trace your model if you like, import/export numerous formats, and do lots of other fancy things with it. To get going quickly, while getting acceptable results I would recommend AC3D. The $40 or so it costs is money well spent I reckon. Could be. But didn't the ac3d author already screw some paying customers over? I remember the discussion here on the devel list. I don't really care who uses what, as long as I can use Blender. AC3D may be a nice application and is certainly good enough for FlightGear modeling, but Blender is far from almost impossible to use. m. Disclaimer: I'm biased. :-) [1] http://members.aon.at/mfranz/flightgear/blender-textured-lights.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Creating a PA34-Seneca (which FDM to choose?)
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Fein Bietet Ihr vielleicht auch verguenstigt Type-Ratings fuer FlightGear-Aktivisten an !? ;-) Oh, please excuse, this was meant to be private EMail, But now I want to know the answer :-) Erik --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Erik Hofman wrote: 1. $FG_ROOT should be a global value 2. ~/.fgfsrc should be a personal preference 3. fgfs --fg-root should be a one time option overriding the defaults Does anybody have any objection to reversing the order? _I_ don't object, to my impression you proposal is the only one that makes sense but my voice is not deciding, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Martin Spott Erik Hofman wrote: 1. $FG_ROOT should be a global value 2. ~/.fgfsrc should be a personal preference 3. fgfs --fg-root should be a one time option overriding the defaults Does anybody have any objection to reversing the order? _I_ don't object, to my impression you proposal is the only one that makes sense but my voice is not deciding, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- Just to add that it doesn't work properly under my Cygwin, but then my home directory is home/vivian meazza/. That's automatically generated by Cygwin and I'm not changing it. I note, however that XP users will install FG in C:\program files\FlightGear. Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Is there an option to disable this facility? In its current state I don't want it on my system. Vivian --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Vivian Meazza wrote: Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Just delete the generated preferences.xml? Nine --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next world scenery build
Hello Jon, I hope you didn't get me wrong: Martin Spott wrote: I see that SWBD might have slightly more detail in certain areas as it follows even small quay walls but the staircase mode in SWBD makes it insuitable for creating FlightGear shorelines right out of the box. It may well be recommended to use SWBD as a reference for those who intend to modify scenery around coastal sites. I didn't mean to be harsh about your proposal. I just think we have to realize that there's still much to be done before we can profit from SWBD for our purpose: 1.) We need to to find out how to smoothen the shoreline in a manner that is suitable for the whole planet. This probably has already been tackled by someone else, but we have to find out. 2.) We need a means to fill the gaps in SWBD. As it is based on SRTM it does not cover the areas 'behind' the polar circles (I don't have the exact numbers at hand). 3.) We need to have this done within just a few days because Curt wants to start generating the new scenery RSN. Under these circumstances I prefer to rely on the work of those people who have much more experience in fine-tuning shoreline data, especially now as there's a shapefile release that clearly and cleanly separates between the different types of shore-/coastline. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Vivian Meazza wrote: Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Is there an option to disable this facility? In its current state I don't want it on my system. This has been the intention from the start, hold on. Erik --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should also point out that I received an error message when the new system couldn't load my preferences if they didn't exist. We should see an error message in this case. You received an error message and you should see an error message? Seems to me like that's the same? Nine --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Stefan Seifert wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should also point out that I received an error message when the new system couldn't load my preferences if they didn't exist. We should see an error message in this case. You received an error message and you should see an error message? Seems to me like that's the same? Sorry, pre-caffeine typo ... I meant that I *don't* think we should see an error message if this optional options file doesn't yet exist. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence
Erik Hofman Vivian Meazza wrote: Just to add that it doesn't work properly under my Cygwin, but then my home directory is home/vivian meazza/. That's automatically generated by Cygwin and I'm not changing it. I note, however that XP users will install FG in C:\program files\FlightGear. Could you test the CVS version again? Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Is there an option to disable this facility? In its current state I don't want it on my system. I've added --enable-save-on-exit and --disable-save-on-exit. This is a bit of an odd puppy since I've implemented the suggestion from Vassilii and this particular property is saved inside the user preferences.xml file, so you should only have the specify --disable-save-on-exit once. Look like what we want, thanks - I'm busy right now, but I'll test it later. V. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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