[Flightgear-devel] Scenery
Hi all, Just few questions about original scenery (0.9.10): All tiles of the world was made with the same definition ? and what is this definition (30' , 3' or 1' arc). I wanted to known the input file for the 0.9.10 release too. (to prevent tile conexion problems) thanks in advance. Didier. -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery
Didier Fabert wrote: I just want to rebuild a tile (e000n40) with new airport. But I want to make this properly (without any offset), so if current version was build with vpr and my rebuild tile is making with data found at ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/TGShapes/, i will have a lot of offsets. You're talking about landcover data now, this is different from the elevation data which is available in different solutions (30/3/1). The current 'official' Scenery was already made from the Shapefiles you mention - but in fact these Shapefiles are supposed to contain the same information as the 'raw' VMap0 data does, just in a nicely repackaged outfit and ready for further development, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alpha
--- Martin Spott wrote: Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan wrote: I didn't have any expectation that I might solo, just that I'd get a couple of hours flying in. After two hours of circuit-bashing and EFIC training (engine failure in the circuit) it was 4:30pm and George (my instructor) suggested we wait for half and hour to see if the wind would die down. I realize that flying such a small beast must be a very special experience - and I guess that once you got used to the beast you'd probably won't care that much about those 6 kt crosswind any more :-) Possibly - but remember that I don't have a rudder, so the only way to land in a crosswind is the crab into wind, touch down on one wheel and let that drag you the correct way round. It is quite normal to take-off or land diagonally across the runway to reduce the cross-wind component. This is quite easy on our runway, which is part of an old WWI and WWII airfield, so has plenty of width available. Thank you for posting the report. You've been starting your solo pretty late in the day, I wonder if you already hit the SS+30 line ? Sunset was 6pm, and I was down by 6:10pm, so I was just inside the time limits. It was a pretty full day of flying - I lost count of the number of circuits we did, but it must have been at least 20! -Stuart ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alpha microlight
--- Georg Vollnhals wrote: Hi Stuart, first congratulations for your first solo flight. This is a very interesting report, I liked to read it :-) Thank you. I was still grinning to myself days later. snip THe FDM still requires some work, but should give an idea of what flying a flexwing is like. I'll write some pilot notes for it in the future. This would be nice, I was just guessing how the landing speed could be and I think I was too fast. And to learn to handle it similar to the real world flying (as far as possible in a sim) is something many of us want to do. The approach speed for a glide approach is 55 - 60mph - really a dive. The current biggest inaccuracy in the flight model is that there isn't enough drag (particularly at high speed), so it floats down the runway far too much. The real aircraft bleeds off speed very fast. I've hacked the drag_due_to_mach, but I suspect that is the wrong answer. If anyone has JSBSim experience and can suggest improvements, I'd be very pleased to hear them. BTW: do you know that it is only usable with FG-OSG? With FG-PLIB (latest CVS) I get these errors: WARNING: ac_to_gl: Can't parse this MATERIAL: WARNING: ac_to_gl: MATERIAL Pink Fairing rgb 1 0.27451 0.65098 amb 0.5 0.5 0.5 emis 0 0 0 spec 0.601071 0.601071 0.601071 shi 32 trans 0 I will investigate. I wonder if the cause is the whitespace in the material name. -Stuart ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alphamicrolight
THe FDM still requires some work, but should give an idea of what flying a flexwing is like. I'll write some pilot notes for it in the future. This would be nice, I was just guessing how the landing speed could be and I think I was too fast. And to learn to handle it similar to the real world flying (as far as possible in a sim) is something many of us want to do. The approach speed for a glide approach is 55 - 60mph - really a dive. The current biggest inaccuracy in the flight model is that there isn't enough drag (particularly at high speed), so it floats down the runway far too much. The real aircraft bleeds off speed very fast. I've hacked the drag_due_to_mach, but I suspect that is the wrong answer. If anyone has JSBSim experience and can suggest improvements, I'd be very pleased to hear them. Where can the flight model be found online? Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alphamicrolight
--- Jon S. Berndt wrote: snip If anyone has JSBSim experience and can suggest improvements, I'd be very pleased to hear them. Where can the flight model be found online? It's available in http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/flash2a.tar.gz. See flash2a.xml in the root directory. I should warn you that it isn't pretty at all - I've been tuning it based on my personal experience, and being doing so in a hacky way. I've also aliased some of the coefficients into the property tree so I could modify them in the simulator - see flasha2a-set.xml for the current settings. The induced drag is too low as well - the stall speed in normal flight should be around 35mph, but that is less of an issue at present. Thanks -Stuart ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alpha microlight
Hi Stuart, Congratulations! It is indeed the whitespace. I've been dealing with that too. Just change it to an underscore, and it will be fine. Stewart Stuart Buchanan wrote: BTW: do you know that it is only usable with FG-OSG? With FG-PLIB (latest CVS) I get these errors: WARNING: ac_to_gl: Can't parse this MATERIAL: WARNING: ac_to_gl: MATERIAL Pink Fairing rgb 1 0.27451 0.65098 amb 0.5 0.5 0.5 emis 0 0 0 spec 0.601071 0.601071 0.601071 shi 32 trans 0 I will investigate. I wonder if the cause is the whitespace in the material name. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRL Solo flight and Mainair Flash 2 Alpha microlight
Am Montag, den 12.03.2007, 11:48 + schrieb Stuart Buchanan: --- Georg Vollnhals wrote: Hi Stuart, first congratulations for your first solo flight. This is a very interesting report, I liked to read it :-) Thank you. I was still grinning to myself days later. ... and you will YEARS later. I do too and my solo (for aerodynamically controled microlight) is nearly ten years ago. snip THe FDM still requires some work, but should give an idea of what flying a flexwing is like. I'll write some pilot notes for it in the future. This would be nice, I was just guessing how the landing speed could be and I think I was too fast. And to learn to handle it similar to the real world flying (as far as possible in a sim) is something many of us want to do. The approach speed for a glide approach is 55 - 60mph - really a dive. The current biggest inaccuracy in the flight model is that there isn't enough drag (particularly at high speed), so it floats down the runway far too much. The real aircraft bleeds off speed very fast. I've hacked the drag_due_to_mach, but I suspect that is the wrong answer. If anyone has JSBSim experience and can suggest improvements, I'd be very pleased to hear them. I'd suggest that the control input should be reversed, because that is the biggest problem a fixed wing pilot encounters when transiting to this kind of flying. Pushing the stick to gain height is very unusual to us. A very pleasant aircraft! Greetings Detlef - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Title: FlightGear presentation I'll be presenting an overview of FlightGear and JSBSim on Wednesday. I have some good screen shots, but if someone can point me towards some more good eye candy and movies of FlightGear in action, that would be appreciated. Note that requested screen shots are not limited to showing JSBSim aircraft in action - the FlightGear portion of the presentation will encompass - albeit briefly - all aspects of FlightGear). Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berndt, Jon S Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:20 AM To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation I'll be presenting an overview of FlightGear and JSBSim on Wednesday. I have some good screen shots, but if someone can point me towards some more good eye candy and movies of FlightGear in action, that would be appreciated. Note that requested screen shots are not limited to showing JSBSim aircraft in action - the FlightGear portion of the presentation will encompass - albeit briefly - all aspects of FlightGear). Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An2 problems
On Mon 12 March 2007 15:18, Gene Buckle wrote: What's frustrating is that the aircraft doesn't seem to want to move. That should be a generic bug for all piston aircraft - if not all aircraft. I've created a script for testing the AN2. I have modified the engine file (as described). I can start it. I can see the engine generating a thrust. I can see the total forces acting on the aircraft at about 1900 lbf. Yet, the aircraft remains still. However, if I kick up the power of the engine (as described last night), then I can get the aircraft to take off. This may be the first thing that everyone looked at, but are the brakes set? (does it have brakes?) g. He Gene the problem has been solved by Jon look at thiis On Sat 10 March 2007 15:11, Jon S. Berndt wrote: How are the brakes ? -Fred The brakes (using JSBSim in standalone mode) must be intentionally set. I've checked the gear forces. They are as expected. Jon OK, I think I have a solution. It *does* have to something to do with the new gear features. Also, there was a problem in the aircraft specification file for the TAIL landing gear: max_steer unit=DEG -10.00 /max_steer This should not be negative. I don't know if this had any effect, but I changed it to: max_steer unit=DEG 10.00 /max_steer Also, for *each* landing gear BOGEY, I added this line near the bottom of the spec for the left, right, and tail bogey's: relaxation_velocity rolling unit=FT/SEC 0 /rolling side unit=FT/SEC 0 /side /relaxation_velocity This turns off the fade-in/out for forces at near-zero or zero velocity. Turning it off is probably too harsh, but it should result in getting the aircraft flying again. I can tweak the relaxation velocity to reduce jitter and to allow the aircraft to fly normally. I'll try that later. Feel free to play with that. Here's the engine definition I'm using: piston_engine name=ASH-62IR minmp unit=INHG 6.0 /minmp maxmp unit=INHG 41.4 /maxmp displacement unit=IN3 1823.00 /displacement maxhp1000.00 /maxhp cycles 2.0 /cycles idlerpm 400.0 /idlerpm maxthrottle1.0 /maxthrottle minthrottle0.2 /minthrottle /piston_engine Yes, I agree that our engine specification and some features are not optimal. For right now, I hope this helps until we can look at that problem. Let me know how you this works for you guys. Jon -- Gérard - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An2 problems
On Mon 12 March 2007 16:16, gh.robin wrote: SNIP This may be the first thing that everyone looked at, but are the brakes set? (does it have brakes?) g. He Gene the problem has been solved by Jon look at thiis AND we only need from Yurik V. Nikiforoff A CVS update for *each* landing gear BOGEY, I added this line near the bottom of the spec for the left, right, and tail bogey's: relaxation_velocity rolling unit=FT/SEC 0 /rolling side unit=FT/SEC 0 /side /relaxation_velocity Like was suggested by Jon Regards -- Gérard - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An2 problems
This may be the first thing that everyone looked at, but are the brakes set? (does it have brakes?) g. He Gene the problem has been solved by Jon Yep. I spotted that about 3 messages after I posted my suggestion. I guess that's what I get for not reading mail all weekend. :) g. -- I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal! Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
On 3/12/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. Here are a few that I posted to youtube (apologies to those people running systems that youtube doesn't support.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIcDDPTDtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYFn0U9KVc If you search youtube for flightgear you will find several more interesting videos. In case I didn't post these there, I have some videos uploaded of my uav project (under manual control.) See the Feb 20, 07 entry here: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick issue - peculiar
Hi Stewart, On Sunday 11 March 2007 15:33:17 Stewart Andreason wrote: Hi Nick, I had forgotten about the jstest utility. Ok, it does give the range from -32767 to 32767. And my joystick does warble on axis 1: 337, 675, 337, 0, 337, 1013, 337, 0, 337 etc. I think the answer to your question is, that 337 is the smallest sensitivity or level of precision. It is a normal hardware issue. 32767 divide by 100 = 328 32767 / 337 = 97.2 (not an exact coorelation, I admit) Thus, make sure a dead-band is set that covers 1 to 4 % of the axis. Yes, that makes sense indeed - and in IRC yesterday and with the help of Melchior, we found the solution. For some reason, although when I plug in my JS it all reads 'spot on' it really isn't. Running jscal and calibrating the JS then makes it all work perfectly in js_demo and FG. So perhaps as nothing has used the JS when I plug it in, it doesn't show up as being out of calibration. I also stated that it doesn't affect FG - well, I lied :-) It did do and I didn't notice. I was always fighting the JS a little in keeping the aircraft straight/level etc., but now it is not so imposing and I can fly better with less effect! Also, by using the -p option of jscal, it produces commandline data that can be read back with the -s option, so all I need do is run that little script at startx (or when I plug my JS in) for it to be sorted. So resolved! Thanks for interest and help. Nick Nick Warne wrote: OK, this isn't FG xml issue. js_demo reports correct (-1.0 - 1.0 etc.) But as soon as I either start js_demo or fgfs, when I check joystick in KDE or use the jstest utilty, X Y Z at rest are set to '337'. So something recalibrates the stick to that. Why 337? I am stumped. Nick - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Can the YouTube videos be saved to disk? I haven't been able to do that so far. Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curtis Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:10 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation On 3/12/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. Here are a few that I posted to youtube (apologies to those people running systems that youtube doesn't support.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIcDDPTDtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYFn0U9KVc If you search youtube for flightgear you will find several more interesting videos. In case I didn't post these there, I have some videos uploaded of my uav project (under manual control.) See the Feb 20, 07 entry here: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
I'm not aware of a way to do that. The trick would be for me to find the original files ... which might be a trick. What's the deadline? Curt. On 3/12/07, Jon S. Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the YouTube videos be saved to disk? I haven't been able to do that so far. Jon -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Curtis Olson *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2007 11:10 AM *To:* FlightGear developers discussions *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation On 3/12/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. Here are a few that I posted to youtube (apologies to those people running systems that youtube doesn't support.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIcDDPTDtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYFn0U9KVc If you search youtube for flightgear you will find several more interesting videos. In case I didn't post these there, I have some videos uploaded of my uav project (under manual control.) See the Feb 20, 07 entry here: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
On Monday 12 March 2007 22:48, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Can the YouTube videos be saved to disk? I haven't been able to do that so far. Try this, for example; http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php Though there were several other options that came up in a brief google. I've downloaded several interesting a/c videos from youtube in the past... Cheers, AJ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Olson wrote: I'm not aware of a way to do that. The trick would be for me to find the original files ... which might be a trick. What's the deadline? Of course it's possible and very easy, too. http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/ works very well for me. The .flv files can be played for example in mplayer and converted to a nicer video format with mencoder. Nine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9duj1QuEJQQMVrgRAnZLAJ45A2WzVKuXHkBBASrpB+a8EpDsaQCeOX5m Vx/PR+lzkCmFR5WtuL9MEwY= =vNVV -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Tomorrow evening. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curtis Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:56 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation I'm not aware of a way to do that. The trick would be for me to find the original files ... which might be a trick. What's the deadline? Curt. On 3/12/07, Jon S. Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the YouTube videos be saved to disk? I haven't been able to do that so far. Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curtis Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:10 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation On 3/12/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. Here are a few that I posted to youtube (apologies to those people running systems that youtube doesn't support.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIcDDPTDtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYFn0U9KVc If you search youtube for flightgear you will find several more interesting videos. In case I didn't post these there, I have some videos uploaded of my uav project (under manual control.) See the Feb 20, 07 entry here: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDE V ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
I'll be presenting an overview of FlightGear and JSBSim on Wednesday. I have some good screen shots, but if someone can point me towards some more good eye candy and movies of FlightGear in action, http://pigeond.net/photos/flightgear/videos/ Most of them are rather old version of FG-plib. Pigeon. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Of course it's possible and very easy, too. http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/ works very well for me. The .flv files can be played for example in mplayer and converted to a nicer video format with mencoder. There are also many scripts for greasemonkey (a firefox plugin), to automatically add a link onto a youtube/googlevideo/etc page to download the .flv file directly. Pigeon. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
These have, sadly, never worked for me. They play in the latest Windows Media Player, but there's no picture. These crash Quicktime. Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pigeon Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:34 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation I'll be presenting an overview of FlightGear and JSBSim on Wednesday. I have some good screen shots, but if someone can point me towards some more good eye candy and movies of FlightGear in action, http://pigeond.net/photos/flightgear/videos/ Most of them are rather old version of FG-plib. Pigeon. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Jon, I've had success harvesting the files of the tanker chase videos out of my firefox cache directory. I just cd into there and look for the largest files and do a type on them until I find them. They show up as type Macromedia Flash Video. I can play them using mplayer. The file names are obscure and I haven't taken the time to match them up to the youtube name -- given the youtube name, what's the point. You can try to pick them out of your browser cache directory or we can somehow figure a way that I can get them to you. That's assuming you have something like mplayer to play them with. BTW, I found these videos to be quite disturbing not only in the choice of chase plane but the tanker flying wildly at tree top level with the boom out. Bet those boom operators were virtually puking their guts out on that one... ;-) Jon S. Berndt wrote: Tomorrow evening. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Curtis Olson *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2007 5:56 PM *To:* FlightGear developers discussions *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation I'm not aware of a way to do that. The trick would be for me to find the original files ... which might be a trick. What's the deadline? Curt. On 3/12/07, *Jon S. Berndt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the YouTube videos be saved to disk? I haven't been able to do that so far. Jon -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]*On Behalf Of *Curtis Olson *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2007 11:10 AM *To:* FlightGear developers discussions *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation On 3/12/07, *Bill Galbraith* wrote: There were some tanker chase videos that were pretty decent. I think they were Curt's. I have them, if you'd like me to send them to you. Here are a few that I posted to youtube (apologies to those people running systems that youtube doesn't support.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOqMoF-PRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIcDDPTDtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qhkWpcgbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYFn0U9KVc If you search youtube for flightgear you will find several more interesting videos. In case I didn't post these there, I have some videos uploaded of my uav project (under manual control.) See the Feb 20, 07 entry here: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/UAV/Rascal110_1/Instrumentation/ Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
I've had success harvesting the files of the tanker chase videos out of my firefox cache directory. I just cd into there and look for the largest files and do a type on them until I find them. They show up as type Macromedia Flash Video. I can play them using mplayer. The file names are obscure and I haven't taken the time to match them up to the youtube name -- given the youtube name, what's the point. Thanks. I have them now. Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
On 3/12/07, Russell Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I found these videos to be quite disturbing not only in the choice of chase plane but the tanker flying wildly at tree top level with the boom out. Bet those boom operators were virtually puking their guts out on that one... ;-) A couple places where the boom operator had to steer the boom between the trees. :-) I picked the Mig-15 because it was a recently updated model (and had very nice exterior.) I picked the tanker because that is what I'm using for the project that motivated me to write the scripts to control the lead and trailing aircraft ... I didn't think much about it beyond that. Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear presentation
Question: The flat panel displays in the 737 (and other aircraft?) are all defined via XML, correct? Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
