Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p 3D Turn-Coordinator
Hi Joe, In case anybody is still working on the C172p-3D: Heiko and I currently maintain it, so we're interested in any bugs/suggestions. While trying to describe how to fly turns with the c172p 3D-model I noticed problems with the there used 3D-Turn-Coordinator/Indicator (as well in the old version 1.9 as in the new version 2): 1) In the 3D-model there is used the very old style Turn Indicator while in the 2D-model there is the modern Turn Coordinator. In my old Pilots Operating Handbooks of 172M (1976) and 172K (1977) there is always shown the new style (like in the 2D-model). (See also e.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendezeiger Sorry: That old, outdated style I found only in the German WIKI - seems all other nations forgot about that old stuff already!) I'll do a bit of research to check if there is a particular reason we used a turn indicator rather than a turn coordinator. 2) In addition the Turn-Indicator-Markings on that old style 3D-model are mis-adjusted: The marks for a Standard-2min-Turn with 20° banking are at 15° - in the 2D that is correctly centered at 20° banking. That sounds like a straight bug. I'll investigate and fix when I get the chance. Thanks, -Stuart -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues with compiling on Gentoo 64
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, Jason Cox wrote: Thanks for that. I have just been using a git clone and letting it decide on what was the working copy. I think it used v2.0.0-r4 or something. All 3 were done the same, I will change them to next. The following instructions are for the FlightGear and SimGear soource repositories. In the fgdata repository the branch you want to track is called master. Changing to the 'next' branch for the first time would be two commands (in your clone): git branch -t -l next origin/next git checkout next Where git branch ... give you a local branch named 'next' that tracks the 'next' branch in the master repository. git checkout next switches the work directory of your local repository to your new 'next' branch. To update your local 'next' you do (assuming that that is your currenty checkedout branch - check with git branch) git pull (which fetches the latest commits from origin/next and merges them intoyour next branch); or if you have local commits that you want to keep on top of the official ones git fetch git rebase origin/next (where the first fetches the latest commits to the origin/next branch in your local repository and the second updates your next branch to be like origin/next but with your local commits on top. NOTE: Do not rebase commits that you have pushed to a public repository!) Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p 3D Turn-Coordinator
Hi, Heiko and I currently maintain it, so we're interested in any bugs/suggestions. As I can remember I used the old one it because it was the only good 3d-model I found. But I must admit that this type is never used on c172p and I missed that fact, so we indeed should use the right one. I just had look into ircraft/Instruments-3d and found the right one, but the qualitity of the textures seems to be less, but with using the 2d-instrument-textures that should be easily changed. Currently I don't find the time to fix this issue, maybe Stuart has more time. Kind Regards Heiko -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: new autopilot subsystem implementation
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From: Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:24 PM
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: new autopilot subsystem implementation
Hi all,
I have just commited a pretty large commit for a new implementation of the
autopilot subsystem(group). The reason for that was that the old way of
having
everything stuffed into one single source file of 1360 lines and a header
file
of 514 lines made working on this piece of code allways a little
challenging.
While at it, I replaced some design patterns to look a little more OO-ish
and
added some doxygen compatible comments to the class definition.
snip
Because I touched at least 90% of all code lines, it is very likely that I
introduced a new bug. Especially the build process was tested on linux
only. I
have no chance to test the build on Windows on OS/X.
snip
Torsten
Now that the config.h file is sorted (many thanks for the commit) I have
again been able to make an MSCV09 from the next branch.
However it was not without problems ;-)
In the autopilot logic.cx was failing due to NOMINMAX not being set. There
were also several problems due to SGvec3 and SGvec4 not being defined.
These I have sorted by re-arranging the order of include file calls. There
may be a better solution, and perhaps my solution will not work on other
platforms.
The changes are all at the beginning of files:-
in analogcomponenet.hxx...
#ifndef __ANALOGCOMPONENT_HXX
#define __ANALOGCOMPONENT_HXX 1
#include component.hxx
#include inputvalue.hxx
namespace FGXMLAutopilot {
in inputvalue.cxx
// Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA
02110-1301, USA.
//
#include Main/fg_props.hxx
#include inputvalue.hxx
using namespace FGXMLAutopilot;
in logic.hxx...
#ifndef __LOGICCOMPONENT_HXX
#define __LOGICCOMPONENT_HXX 1
#include analogcomponent.hxx
#include digitalcomponent.hxx
namespace FGXMLAutopilot {
Once it all compiled there were some undefined variables.
To solve these fdm_shell.cxx/.hxx and flightProperties.cxx/.hxx needed to be
added to Lib_Flight.
This produced another compilation error:-
The correction in flightProperties.cxx is
#include Main/globals.hxx
#include FDM/flightProperties.hxx
#include simgear/props/props.hxx
#include simgear/math/SGMath.hxx
#include Main/globals.hxx
FlightProperties::FlightProperties(SGPropertyNode* root) :
Also note that fdm_shell.cxx/.hxx and flightProperties.cxx/.hxx do not have
the usual copyright header.
All compiles and links now. I have not tested to see if it runs OK.
Thanks for all the continuing work by all concerned.
Alan
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw not running correctly on Mac 10.4
Yes, I have that version on my computer as well. But, I am wanting to do some work on AI networks, and the wiki says that there are necessary code changes in TaxiDraw that went in after that build was done. I was able to get the code from cvs and build everything, but it isn't running correctly. Thanks Andrew On 25/06/2010, at 7:00 AM, James Turner wrote: On 24 Jun 2010, at 17:04, HB-GRAL wrote: I am running the Tiger binaries (v0.32) from James Turner: http://homepage.mac.com/zakalawe/.Public/taxidraw-0.3.2.dmg Wow, those still exist?! I guess I should do an updated build - I had long forgotten those binaries existed! James -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] IRC Chat not working
Hi All Have been trying to get onto IRC for a couple of hours each time I get a timed out message is there a problem.Other IRC sites seem to be working fine. Cheers Innis _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/-- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRC Chat not working
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Innis Cunningham inn...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All Have been trying to get onto IRC for a couple of hours each time I get a timed out message is there a problem.Other IRC sites seem to be working fine. Cheers Innis If you are referring to irc.flightgear.org, you are not the only one to notice. I think the server is down, no news on how long for, or if it will be back. As a alternative, try freenode or the flightgear node alternative at mpserver12.flightgear.org Regards George -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: new autopilot subsystem implementation
These I have sorted by re-arranging the order of include file calls. There may be a better solution, and perhaps my solution will not work on other platforms. This was due to the missing include of config.h. A very common pitfall for linux developers. Should be fixed now. Once it all compiled there were some undefined variables. To solve these fdm_shell.cxx/.hxx and flightProperties.cxx/.hxx needed to be added to Lib_Flight. They are added to the vcproj file. Also note that fdm_shell.cxx/.hxx and flightProperties.cxx/.hxx do not have the usual copyright header. I'll leave it to James who is the author of these files to add a copyright and license statement. All compiles and links now. I have not tested to see if it runs OK. Please check, if this is still the case after my commits or if I broke anything new. Thanks for all the continuing work by all concerned. Thanks for testing and reporting! Torsten -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: new autopilot subsystem implementation
On 27 Jun 2010, at 14:12, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Also note that fdm_shell.cxx/.hxx and flightProperties.cxx/.hxx do not have the usual copyright header. I'll leave it to James who is the author of these files to add a copyright and license statement. Good point, I'll add these. James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRC Chat not working
Thanks George Hi All Have been trying to get onto IRC for a couple of hours each time I get a timed out message is there a problem.Other IRC sites seem to be working fine. Cheers Innis If you are referring to irc.flightgear.org, you are not the only one to notice. I think the server is down, no news on how long for, or if it will be back. As a alternative, try freenode or the flightgear node alternative at mpserver12.flightgear.org Regards George _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/-- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Official
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:17:23 -0500, Jim wrote in message aanlktimff3jaovv3funumvxh3cl-qpm5qf4uufw1b...@mail.gmail.com: Use of trademarked logos on liveries may possibly fall under nominative fair use, assuming they are accurate, as depiction of the trademarks are necessary to depict a publicly visible plane. To quote wikipedia with my own comments in brackets, and randomly using American Airlines as the example: The nominative use test essentially states that one party may use or refer to the trademark of another if: The product or service cannot be readily identified without using the trademark (e.g. trademark is descriptive of a person, place, or product attribute) [It is impossible to depict an American Airlines plane without an accurate AA livery] The user only uses so much of the mark as is necessary for the identification (e.g. the words but not the font or symbol) [The livery is accurate to what AA paints on their own planes, which are readily visible as a 'real-life' thing that anyone can see, and we simulate] The user does nothing to suggest sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. This applies even if the nominative use is commercial, and the same test applies for metatags. [Since FG has _many_ liveries and isn't just, say, an American Airlines simulator, no reasonable person would believe sponsorship or endorsement by the airlines whose liveries are recreated in the simulation] At any rate, that only applies to U.S. trademark laws, so mileage may vary. At any rate I'd think we have fair use of trademarks on airliner liveries, so long as they are accurate. I think you'd run into trouble if you made up an 'imaginary' AA livery. ..no, the fair use clause specifically allows satire, humor, news reporting, political mockery etc, as free speech, which makes it a nice good deterrent of big biz bullying. ;o) It appears I've been in such litigation for 5 years now. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw not running correctly on Mac 10.4
On 27 Jun 2010, at 13:07, Andrew Gillanders wrote: do some work on AI networks, and the wiki says that there are necessary code changes in TaxiDraw that went in after that build was done. I was able to get the code from cvs and build everything, but it isn't running correctly. I haven't tried to build TaxiDraw in years - can you remind me (given that I'm on Mac 10.6, and have FlightGear building), what I need to grab (and from where), the approximate build steps, and what does / doesn't work for you? Hopefully then I can make some more intelligent statements about where the problem might be. James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: new autopilot subsystemimplementation
Thanks for the update. One include file is still required in logic.hxx:- // Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. // #ifndef __LOGICCOMPONENT_HXX #define __LOGICCOMPONENT_HXX 1 #include inputvalue.hxx #include digitalcomponent.hxx #ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H In my previous post I suggested adding #include analogcomponent.hxx, but inputvalue.hxx is sufficient. Apart from this FG builds out of the box (as long as simgear/simgear/version.h is edited as per step 10 in mini-docs/README.MSVC) Alan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FGRUN: Compiling issues with MSVC9
Dear list, after I got managed to compile Simgear and FG sources from git without big trouble on my Win Vista x64 with VisualStudioC++ 2008 (MSVC9) with lots of appreciated help on irc I now try to compile fgrun from gitorious. I followed http://geoffmclane.com/fg/fgfs-048.htm#buildfgrun. Like stated there I added gettext runtime and libs but more actual version 0.14.4 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuwin32/files/gettext/0.14.4/ to fulfil (most of) fgrun's needs. I changed afxres.h to windows.h. I added additional includes of fltk_1.1.10. Like Allan Teeder stated today on dev mailling list I manually included inputvalue.hxx to fgrun's wizard_funcs.cxx to respect changes in Simgear because I discovered similar errors during compiling fgrun. Compiling works now without errors or warnings but linking fails with error LNK1181 as it complains about a missing libintl.lib which obviously should provided by gettext but is not or at least I can't find a source for it. Using the mentioned libintl.lib of gettext 0.13.1 (where it is provided) brings out 34 linking errors LNK2001 in simgear.lib (SGText.obj) complaining about unresolved symbols and warning LNK4098: defaultlib 'LIBCMT' conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library The same happens when I use runtime and libs of gettext 0.13.1 (MSVC9 complains now about a missing libintl.lib) and I give it the needed lib of gettext 0.14.4. Here's what MSVC9 spits out so far without mixing the libs. http://pastebin.ca/1890606 Any help is appreciated. Cheers Mike (aka D-SKY1) --- If you want to be understood, you first have to listen --- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
