Re: [Flightgear-devel] various databases +- ground truth ;
John Denker wrote: FWIW I have a prog that reads apt.dat and writes kml, which can then be imported into your favorite GIS such as GRASS or google-earth. The idea is to make it easy to compare apt.dat to the ground truth. Like this ? http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-122.3749lat=37.61897zoom=15layers=B00TT Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] too many scenery objects
Hi After converting Suisse04 fgfs hangs while loading lszg. But I can position aircraft on ground and it seems to load objects only after looking at. Therefore i suspect too many objects and is also the same for other big airports alike TNCM etc. Qtcreator gets slower and slower before and stops completely before outputting any infos. So how should i approach this? Thanks-- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Shutting server down for maintenance
It should be back up in a day or two. I need to configure some things on the box itself. Thanks, - sabin -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
Le 17/09/2011 20:26, Vivian Meazza a écrit : Cedric wrote I hope this is the last time we will have to discuss this topic, since over the last months it seemed that everyone agreed with that FGDATA - has to be split sometime - should be split a.s.a.p. We agreed that after the current release of 2.4 would be a good point to get the project on the way. As I offered and it still stands, I will take care of writing the bash script which splits the current FGDATA repository into multiple repositories and leaves an FGDATA repository which holds merely the bare essentials which supplement the core binary of fgfs. One could classify the contents of the new FGDATA by saying that it's data which provides the technical backbone - the common denominator everything is based upon. I'd like to cease this opportunity to give everyone the chance to utter their possible disagreement with the project or their respective opinions and discuss the very details of the split, which have not yet been determined. The general boundary conditions of the splitting process are the following: - FGDATA shall consist of everything which is essential for the binary to run and shall not hold any data which is specific to certain airports or airplanes. Those should be provided in separate repositories the structure of which is not of current interest and might possibly be chosen by the respective authors. - The change shall not require restructuring of the architecture, including the directory structure. Solely the repositories in which the data is contained shall change. Informatively, I'd like to supply a sensible suggestion for how a final structure might look and how, either as a developer or user might use it. Particularily, because some of you might wonder how we can strip FGDATA of KSFO and the 172p, leaving nothing to fly with - isn't that a bad decision? Definitly not. One has to distinguish between a proper, dedicated development structure which is aligned to and substructred into independent development units and a way of deployment. As a developer, you will clone the base fgfs SC repository and you will clone the FGDATA repository. Then, depending on your field of interest you will clone the aircrafts, airports etc. you are planning to work on. You can do so with the git submodule, which will integrate the specific aircraft/airport/etc repository into the existing FGDATA repository, while keeping the commits separate. For deployment, you either manually or programatically git-submodule all data required for shipping into a branch for deployment. This includes, for instance, the KSFO tile and the c172p. It's apparent that one, among many advantages of that approach is, that the confusing redundancy between the default KSFO and the scenery KSFO, as it currently exists, will go. While the planes are the primary concern of the splitting and will bring a relief of a tremendous 4.5 Gigabytes to every user of FGDATA and rectify a lot of redundancies and confusion, other things might also be considered, say, ./Traffic (just a lucky guess). Practically everything which is orthogonal to the core and without which FG (assuming a plane and a tile) can properly run, should migrate. I think this is an offer we can't refuse. I think these proposals are as good as any, and are in line with what Tim Moore was doing. Perhaps we should go for a phased approach. In the fist phase, we could split out the aircraft, then further restructuring could form subsequent phases. Cedric might like to start work on his script as soon as possible. Vivian Yup ! -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cmake
I'm uninstall OSG-3.0.1, SG-git and FG-git. Then make fresh folder for each of them, succesfully compile OSG and SG with ~[OSG/SG]/build$ ccmake .. configure, generate, ~[OSG/SG]/build$ make install but FG, with same commands, fails: http://pastebin.com/2V0AL0nY -- --- WBR, Vadym. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
Hello everybody, I'll keep this message as short as I can for some reason: We have built a script which will extract all Aircraft/* apart from Generic, Instruments and Instruments-3d into separate, cleaned up repositories and also extract the clean fgdata. The script is attached. Now we need to ask you the following: The problem we have is that this script cannot be ran on Gitorious directly. For one, because we don't have the required shell access there and second, because the operations required to perform the split put a tremendous load on I/O and CPU. With the size of FGDATA it would be impossible to perform the operation on the Gitorious servers. We need someone to run this script locally and then clone the result(s) onto gitorious. For that you require - Linux and root access (in order to mount a tmpfs) - A good amount of RAM (at least 6 Gigabytes) - A decent CPU - Patience - A stable PC - and finally a stable internet connection to be able to clone the results into Gitorious - And possibly patience if the script fails to have me make the necessary adjustments. The script does not perform any irreversible operations and will certainly not cause any damage (it is very simple and linear, you might look at it yourself), however, I can of course make no guarantee for anything so you best don't run it on a repository which has pending commits to be pushed. If you are willing to do this (I cannot do this for I fall short of a stable inet connection), you must read the following. Some preps are in place: You need to mount /tmp/fgsplit as a tmpfs with at least 6 gigabytes ram. This is not strictly required but otherwise you would have to straing your HDD with an enourmous amount of IO. After you mounted that, navigate to your fgdata directory (as user, you only need root for mounting the tmpfs) and run the script from there. possibly press Ctrl-C on the first run to read the message that comes up. Make sure you run the script on a fully committed working copy. If everything succeeds as planned, which could take many hours, the results can be found one directory up (as described in the message) and your current fgdata will have a bunch of new branches which you can delete, which will return your repo to the old state. You may eventually delete your old (then untouched) fgdata and clone the results to gitorious. The script itsself uses just basic git commands to extract the various parts into the target directories and leaves master of your current FGDATA unaffected. any questions feel free to ask or join on IRC (I'be there arround 1800 GMT) The principle of the script has been tested on a small scale repository and it should therefore work. Failure is absolutly possible, if not likely, but the worst thing that may happen is that it doesnt start properly for one or another reason. best thing you can do is look at the script yourself and see what it does. I'd be glad if we could eventually get this done. Thank you, regards, ManDay -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
... And here is the script
#!/bin/bash
echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!'
echo ' WARNING '
echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository'
echo 'Running this script in a wrong repository will have unpredictable'
echo 'results!'
echo ' NOTE '
echo '_NO_ irreversible changes will be made to your local repository'
echo 'The resulting split repositories after the spit can be found in'
echo ' ../split_fgdata_result/'
echo 'and'
echo ' ../split_airplanes_result/'
echo 'If satisfied with the results you can then delete this very repo'
echo 'Which will, of course, seal the deal and make it irreversible'
sleep 10;
if ! git status ; then
echo ERROR - Please navigate into the root of the FGDATA repository
exit
fi
final_ac=../split_airplanes_result/
final_fg=../split_fgdata_result/
mkdir $final_ac
mkdir $final_fg
origin=$(pwd)
sleep 1
echo Bringing up to date
git pull
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Creating branches for all aircrafts, hang on
for acf in ./Aircraft/* ; do
ac=${acf#./Aircraft/}
if [[ $ac == Generic || $ac == Instruments || $ac ==
Instruments-3d ]] ; then
continue ;
fi
echo Going onto canonical master
#git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for $ac ;
acbn=SPLIT-$ac
git branch $acbn
echo Switching...;
git checkout $acbn
echo Isolating...;
git filter-branch --subdirectory-filter /Aircraft/$ac
(
echo Creating new (bare) repository for $ac...
cd $final_ac
mkdir $ac
cd $ac
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin $acbn
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
done
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for reduced FGDATA
git branch SPLIT-CORE
echo Reducing...
git filter-branch --index-filter 'git rm --cached --ignore-unmatch /Aircraft/*'
(
cd $final_fg
echo Creating new (bare) repository for fgdata
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin SPLIT-CORE
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
echo DONE
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
I'm afraid I attached the wrong version, here is the correct one.
#!/bin/bash
iodir=/tmp/fgsplit
echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!'
echo ' WARNING '
echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository'
echo 'Running this script in a wrong repository will have unpredictable'
echo 'results! FURTHERMORE make sure to have'
echo $iodir
echo 'mounted as tmpfs with all the storage that you can spare'
echo ' NOTE '
echo '_NO_ irreversible changes will be made to your local repository'
echo 'The resulting split repositories after the spit can be found in'
echo ' ../split_fgdata_result/'
echo 'and'
echo ' ../split_airplanes_result/'
echo 'If satisfied with the results you can then delete this very repo'
echo 'Which will, of course, seal the deal and make it irreversible'
sleep 10;
if ! git status ; then
echo ERROR - Please navigate into the root of the FGDATA repository
exit
fi
final_ac=../split_airplanes_result/
final_fg=../split_fgdata_result/
mkdir $final_ac
mkdir $final_fg
origin=$(pwd)
sleep 1
echo Bringing up to date
git pull
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Creating branches for all aircrafts, hang on
for acf in ./Aircraft/* ; do
ac=${acf#./Aircraft/}
if [[ $ac == Generic || $ac == Instruments || $ac ==
Instruments-3d ]] ; then
continue ;
fi
echo Going onto canonical master
#git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for $ac ;
acbn=SPLIT-$ac
git branch $acbn
echo Switching...;
git checkout $acbn
echo Isolating...;
git filter-branch --subdirectory-filter /Aircraft/$ac
(
echo Creating new (bare) repository for $ac...
cd $final_ac
mkdir $ac
cd $ac
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin $acbn
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
done
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for reduced FGDATA
git branch SPLIT-CORE
echo Reducing...
git filter-branch --index-filter 'git rm --cached --ignore-unmatch /Aircraft/*'
(
cd $final_fg
echo Creating new (bare) repository for fgdata
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin SPLIT-CORE
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
echo DONE
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
Hopefully the right version now. Had to add something.
#!/bin/bash
iodir=/tmp/fgsplit
echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!'
echo ' WARNING '
echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository'
echo 'Running this script in a wrong repository will have unpredictable'
echo 'results! FURTHERMORE make sure to have'
echo $iodir
echo 'mounted as tmpfs with all the storage that you can spare'
echo ' NOTE '
echo '_NO_ irreversible changes will be made to your local repository'
echo 'The resulting split repositories after the spit can be found in'
echo ' ../split_fgdata_result/'
echo 'and'
echo ' ../split_airplanes_result/'
echo 'If satisfied with the results you can then delete this very repo'
echo 'Which will, of course, seal the deal and make it irreversible'
sleep 10;
if ! git status ; then
echo ERROR - Please navigate into the root of the FGDATA repository
exit
fi
final_ac=../split_airplanes_result/
final_fg=../split_fgdata_result/
mkdir $final_ac
mkdir $final_fg
origin=$(pwd)
sleep 1
echo Bringing up to date
git pull
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Creating branches for all aircrafts, hang on
for acf in ./Aircraft/* ; do
ac=${acf#./Aircraft/}
if [[ $ac == Generic || $ac == Instruments || $ac ==
Instruments-3d ]] ; then
continue ;
fi
echo Going onto canonical master
#git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for $ac ;
acbn=SPLIT-$ac
git branch $acbn
echo Switching...;
git checkout $acbn
echo Isolating...;
git filter-branch -d $iodir --subdirectory-filter /Aircraft/$ac
(
echo Creating new (bare) repository for $ac...
cd $final_ac
mkdir $ac
cd $ac
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin $acbn
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
done
echo Going onto canonical master
git checkout origin/master
echo Branching for reduced FGDATA
git branch SPLIT-CORE
echo Reducing...
git filter-branch -d $iodir --index-filter 'git rm --cached --ignore-unmatch
/Aircraft/*'
(
cd $final_fg
echo Creating new (bare) repository for fgdata
git init --bare
echo Extracting...
git fetch $origin SPLIT-CORE
git branch master FETCH_HEAD
)
echo DONE
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] An extension to --parkpos
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:23:57 +0200, Durk wrote in message f2886125-96b7-40ff-a334-f92932287...@gmail.com: Hi Stuart, On 17 Sep 2011, at 21:45, Stuart Buchanan wrote: However, I think that the properties you've defined have a use beyond just ATC, so hiding them under /sim/atc and only loading them as additional config feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity to me. Thanks for your comments. Just to expand a little on my previous mail: Your quote is exactly the reason why I wrote in my commit log that I'm only providing two sample preset files. I expect things to change considerably, but just provided these two presets as a test case. I also think that radius should get into the aircraft file, because it essentially is a physical property. ..that can also be calculated from e.g. each aircraft's minimum taxiing turn radius. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [OT] A day at the museum
Hi all, Today, by way of celebrating my father's 85th birhday, we spend an afternoon at the Aviodrome aviation musuem at Lelystad Airport (EHLE). The museum that is known in the FlightGear community as the location were FSWeekend is taking place. I came from Belgium, and my father, my sister and her husband all live in the Northern parts of the netherlands, so we decided to organize something halfway, and settled on the aviodrome, which was actually my sister's idea. Arriving just before noon, we were in for a big chunk of rain as a rather big thunderstorm was passing close by, but we managed to stay dry for the better part. Despite the rain, the conditions for flying were pretty good, so there was quite a lot of activity at the airport itself, and the museum had two Dakota flights scheduled for the day. We watched the departure of one of them, which was a little delayed by the rain. After spending about 4 hours in the museum, both indoors and outdoors, we decided to go out for dinner in nearby flatuna's restaurant, a place that is also famous among the FSWeekend booth staff. This little restaurant is located along the runway, and we were in for a another few surprises. One of them was the take-off of a fouga-magister, for which you can apparently book a short flight @2000 euros per 20 minutes. But, the highlight of the day was undoubtedly the arrival of second Dakota. not expecting, it I noticed it arrive, as we were finishing dinner. The aircraft was given an escort of ground vehicles back to the museum, and was given a water salute by the fire brigade. By that time, the wether had cleared and the sun was already reaching for the horizon. As the DC-3 was nearing the end of the taxiway, a rainbow seemed to touch it. As it turned out, this was the final flight of the captain, before retiring. All in all a very nice ending of a great day. Some pictures are here: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7455889/1/A-Day-At-the-Museum?h=d9972f Cheers, Durk -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:07:48 +0200, Cedric wrote in message 20110918210742.GA11631@engine: We need someone to run this script locally and then clone the result(s) onto gitorious. For that you require - Linux and root access (in order to mount a tmpfs) ..some of your script echo statements are unquoted, some single quoted and some double quoted. Probably works ok on GNU/Linux, (I'm on the road with a wee ass eeepc looking for a new home for my gasifier and my FG igloo) but I dunno about the other platforms, maybe play it safe and use double quoted echo statements? - A good amount of RAM (at least 6 Gigabytes) - A decent CPU - Patience - A stable PC - and finally a stable internet connection to be able to clone the results into Gitorious -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure
Right. I've been a bit sloppy when I wrote this yesterday. I'll rewrite it in a more proper and failsafe manner today. You might want to want to wait until then. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:21:40AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:07:48 +0200, Cedric wrote in message 20110918210742.GA11631@engine: We need someone to run this script locally and then clone the result(s) onto gitorious. For that you require - Linux and root access (in order to mount a tmpfs) ..some of your script echo statements are unquoted, some single quoted and some double quoted. Probably works ok on GNU/Linux, (I'm on the road with a wee ass eeepc looking for a new home for my gasifier and my FG igloo) but I dunno about the other platforms, maybe play it safe and use double quoted echo statements? - A good amount of RAM (at least 6 Gigabytes) - A decent CPU - Patience - A stable PC - and finally a stable internet connection to be able to clone the results into Gitorious -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA Learn about the latest advances in developing for the BlackBerryreg; mobile platform with sessions, labs more. See new tools and technologies. Register for BlackBerryreg; DevCon today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
