Re: [Flightgear-devel] Howto download aircraft - impressions on a new PC
Did a fresh install and needed all day to get ~7GB of aircrafts only to find that my most loved the IAR 80 has gone.- Who was ridden by hell to remove the best airplane? The author himself. But you've downloaded 7 GB of GIT repository, not 7 GB of aircraft, and the GIT repository contains all the commit history, so you can restore the IAR 80 from there if you like. * Thorsten -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear and VoiceOver
hi, actually he will not need voiceover inside of flight gear, And his french language should most definitely be installed by default, if not it is pretty easy to do. The way it works if he is blind and is on a mac, can also work on linux is to take all of the variables and pass the numbers along too a synth, and he will get his information that way. Installing it so it works is a little hairy but i can write a short how to if needed :) best Sandi On 9/9/13, Olivier acom...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Elise, De : Élise Carvalho carvalho.el...@gmail.com À : flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé le : Lundi 9 septembre 2013 14h23 Objet : [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear and VoiceOver VoiceOver can read menues but not submenues. Will it be repared in the new release coming soon? ( I'm sorry for my english but it's not easy for me to explain this problem ( i'm french ), as i don't use yet flightgear, This is surely due to the fact that the main menu items are translated into French but not the submenus, at least not yet - it's the same for all languages. So as they are in English, the voice recognition systems probably doesn't get them right. He probably has to install some kind of English language data. Glad to hear some more French users over here. Olivier -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Howto download aircraft - impressions on a new PC
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Michael wrote: Git never worked easily for me...any simple instructions somewhere? Thanks The author in question might not thank me for this, but this is how it can be done: # git log -- Aircraft/IAR80 Copy the commit id of the version you want. (Probably the scond most recent one). # git checkout commit id -- Aircraft/IAR80 Get that version of the Aircraft/IAR80 directory. However, note: the aircraft might have bit rotted due to developments in the rest of FlightGear. Additionally, your fgdata work directory is now unclean (contains uncommitted changes) so to update it in the future you either need to commit these changes locally or run # git stash to hide these changes from the work directory before updating and # git stash pop afterwards to get them back. Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://gitorious.org/anders-hangar http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Howto download aircraft - impressions on a new PC
Probably he was p* by some new incompatabilities. Also the Citation X has no more a startup sequence...what p* me off. So we move one step forward and two backwards, hmm? From: Renk Thorsten thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Howto download aircraft - impressions on a new PC Did a fresh install and needed all day to get ~7GB of aircrafts only to find that my most loved the IAR 80 has gone.- Who was ridden by hell to remove the best airplane? The author himself. But you've downloaded 7 GB of GIT repository, not 7 GB of aircraft, and the GIT repository contains all the commit history, so you can restore the IAR 80 from there if you like. * Thorsten -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel-- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Howto download aircraft - impressions on a new PC
It wasn't that the IAR80 was inactive. The main developer removed the aircraft from the repo due to conflicts about weather rendering (or something along those lines). Saikrishna Arcot On Tue 10 Sep 2013 01:58:19 AM EDT, Michael wrote: +1 Thanks. Did a fresh install and needed all day to get ~7GB of aircrafts only to find that my most loved the IAR 80 has gone.- Who was ridden by hell to remove the best airplane? 90% off all aircrafts could be moved to inactive as they didn't see more than a added gauge for the last years.- GPL doesn't need to be removed but rather we need a category inactive or so. Also a search by name, as I needed scrolling aircrafts for 10 minutes. Even on my new Haswell with a GTX 770 I only get 9FPS on a deserted airport.- But with that machine I can even max out FSX. Also no 850 apt.dat integration and I didn't use fgfs for a year or so. Cheers Michael On 09/03/2013 03:28 PM, James Turner wrote: For 3.0 I will be making FGData significantly smaller, since the size of the Git repo is indeed a big problem. A huge +1 with my packager's hat on. Regards -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and 3d cloud switch
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:42:06 +0200, Erik wrote in message 522db40e.5050...@ehofman.com: On 09/09/2013 12:59 PM, Renk Thorsten wrote: A report of performance dramatically improving for advanced weather when 3d clouds are switched off in the rendering menu (you still get to see 3d clouds) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=69t=16630start=30#p189983 I've played around with this, and I can't reproduce any significant framerate difference. It is true that the cloud effect file doesn't condition on the 3d cloud switch at all, so Advanced Weather generates 3d clouds no matter what you select here (it can't do 2d clouds at all) - which may be a little confusing, but I have no good idea how to handle this gracefully. Maybe the switch should go away from rendering to the Basic Weather GUI? But that's a side issue. I have no idea where any performance increase might be coming from though - as far as I know, the shaders are completely unaware of this. Can anyone reproduce the finding? Stuart, any idea where this could come from? I was testing anyhow so I did a quick test. I don't see any improvement either. What (I think) can happen is that older (fgrun) config files could cause bad behaviour, especially when properties change function between FlightGear versions (for instance the effects level slider). ..another test case suggestion: if you have a radeon card, pop that in and see how it looks with that, if you don't have a radeon card, try swap out nvidea for nouveau in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and install your distro's nouveau and libdrm-nouveau2 etc drivers alongside your nvidea drivers and chk framerates etc there: arnt@celsius:~$ dpkg -l |grep nouveau |fmt -tu ii libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-2 amd64 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver arnt@celsius:~$ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and 3d cloud switch
..another test case suggestion: if you have a radeon card, pop that in and see how it looks with that, if you don't have a radeon card, try swap out nvidea for nouveau in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and install your distro's nouveau and libdrm-nouveau2 etc drivers alongside your nvidea drivers and chk framerates etc there: arnt@celsius:~$ dpkg -l |grep nouveau |fmt -tu ii libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-2 amd64 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver Point being? It's well known that the noveau driver doesn't reach the performance of the proprietary driver (and I have a laptop - pretty hard to change the cards...). In any case, that doesn't have anything to do with the observation made by the forum user. * Thorsten -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt and FXAA on Linux
sorry must be said FXAA + Rembrandt On 10 September 2013 17:04, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: FSAA + Rembrandt with Linux x86-64 NVidia driver right now 325.15 and others previous ones built against OpenSUSE is working well . It should be the same with any others Linux distributions BTW: for some reasons AA cannot work with Rembrandt Ahmad On 10 September 2013 16:51, Michael scrat_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Still broken. Anyone got Rembrandt working with FXAA or AA on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit? http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=16943start=15 -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt and FXAA on Linux
Still broken. Anyone got Rembrandt working with FXAA or AA on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit? http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=16943start=15-- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt and FXAA on Linux
FSAA + Rembrandt with Linux x86-64 NVidia driver right now 325.15 and others previous ones built against OpenSUSE is working well . It should be the same with any others Linux distributions BTW: for some reasons AA cannot work with Rembrandt Ahmad On 10 September 2013 16:51, Michael scrat_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Still broken. Anyone got Rembrandt working with FXAA or AA on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit? http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=16943start=15 -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt and FXAA on Linux
Yes, updating the driver helped. Thanks From: grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com To: Michael scrat_h...@yahoo.com; FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt and FXAA on Linux sorry must be said FXAA + Rembrandt On 10 September 2013 17:04, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: FSAA + Rembrandt with Linux x86-64 NVidia driver right now 325.15 and others previous ones built against OpenSUSE is working well . It should be the same with any others Linux distributions BTW: for some reasons AA cannot work with Rembrandt Ahmad On 10 September 2013 16:51, Michael scrat_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Still broken. Anyone got Rembrandt working with FXAA or AA on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit? http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=16943start=15 -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and 3d cloud switch
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:55:19 +, Renk wrote in message e495a106ff5f31448739e79d34138c192a958...@mbs2.ad.jyu.fi: ..another test case suggestion: if you have a radeon card, pop that in and see how it looks with that, if you don't have a radeon card, try swap out nvidea for nouveau in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and install your distro's nouveau and libdrm-nouveau2 etc drivers alongside your nvidea drivers and chk framerates etc there: arnt@celsius:~$ dpkg -l |grep nouveau |fmt -tu ii libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-2 amd64 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver Point being? It's well known that the noveau driver doesn't reach the performance of the proprietary driver ..still? My only Nvidea experience is a coupla weeks now in August on XTX Geforge GTS 260 card on the nouveau driver, while waiting for a new PSU for my 4890. FG frame rates was 15-20ish and I was able to bog it down once I started piling up on eye candy. The big surprise was how the 4890 was decent, but not much faster. (and I have a laptop - pretty hard to change the cards...). ...and pretty easy to swap out nvidea for nouveau in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf once you have the driver installed, you may have to reboot to get kms going right, though. In any case, that doesn't have anything to do with the observation made by the forum user. ..easy now, I haven't tried the nvidea driver yet, I got an XTX Geforge GTS 260 card along with my 4890 radeon card, the 4890 was too tough on my PSU, so I tried the GTS 260 on the nouveau driver and the darn thing just worked, not much slower than the 4890 on the radeon driver, the _only_ thing I did to get it working, was swap out radeon for nouveau and reboot. Easy. ;o) ..the interesting part in this thread here, is I see precisely the same psycedelic rendering errors with the 4890 on the radeon driver, as I see with GTS 260 on the nouveau driver, hence my suggestion you nvidea guys take a nouveau look if you don't have a radeon card handy. (No bug yet, RL issues.) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=5127iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
