Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
May be is it possible to make program like wellknown Signs, which will take data not from $FG_ROOT/Local/signs/data/, but from airport datafile, and draw arrows instead name of town? I'm not programmer, just suggest... :) -- ---WBR, Vadym. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
Hi Tim, On Tuesday 14 November 2006 15:28, Tim Moore wrote: > Chris Metzler wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:20:38 +0100 > > > > Tim Moore wrote: > >> Durk, > >> Do you have any thoughts on representing some of the AI ground net > >> features -- specifically parking spaces and hold points -- visually in > >> the scene? Not to mention making intersection of taxiways a bit more > >> attractive... > > > > Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? > > > > -c > > I'd like to see markings on the tarmac for aircraft parking, as well as > the taxi centerlines that lead to them. I'd like to see runway > hold-short points on the tarmac. I'd like to see taxiways and runways > that have nice fillets where they intersect as well as proper > intersecting centerlines. > > I'm not saying that this is all trivial :), but if there is going to be > more information about the airport ground network available, it would be > nice to draw a representation of it too. > This is something that would indeed be very nice to have in the long run, but indeed as you suggested, this is not trivial. Currently this isn't possible yet, because TaxiDraw (the program that creates the ground networks) doesn't support the graphical representations you mention. David Luff, the main author of taxidraw, has recently expressed his interest in upgrading taxidraw to support the new airport layout file format of X-plane, which would be a good first step in the right direction. Cheers, Durk - SF.net email is sponsored by: A Better Job is Waiting for You - Find it Now. Check out Slashdot's new job board. Browse through tons of technical jobs posted by companies looking to hire people just like you. http://jobs.slashdot.org/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Metzler wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:20:38 +0100 > Tim Moore wrote: >> Durk, >> Do you have any thoughts on representing some of the AI ground net >> features -- specifically parking spaces and hold points -- visually in >> the scene? Not to mention making intersection of taxiways a bit more >> attractive... > > Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? > > -c I'd like to see markings on the tarmac for aircraft parking, as well as the taxi centerlines that lead to them. I'd like to see runway hold-short points on the tarmac. I'd like to see taxiways and runways that have nice fillets where they intersect as well as proper intersecting centerlines. I'm not saying that this is all trivial :), but if there is going to be more information about the airport ground network available, it would be nice to draw a representation of it too. Tim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFWdKbeDhWHdXrDRURAq2yAJ9TBJCZZ4zIKIj9sx9vQFQHy6vSLwCeMFF9 OnMm7DpMQ8faWY+5KnIjMSk= =VVje -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:28:44 +0100 Tim Moore wrote: > > I'd like to see markings on the tarmac for aircraft parking, as well as > the taxi centerlines that lead to them. I'd like to see runway > hold-short points on the tarmac. I'd like to see taxiways and runways > that have nice fillets where they intersect as well as proper > intersecting centerlines. > > I'm not saying that this is all trivial :), but if there is going to be > more information about the airport ground network available, it would be > nice to draw a representation of it too. That's what I thought you meant, but I wanted to make sure before I started writing about something that would then turn out to have nothing to do with your question. In the future, someone may write code that produces this stuff, and writes it onto the textured ground at the appropriate locations (IIRC, writing graphics onto the texturing is a fairly recent addition to fgfs). But in the meantime, it's worth noting that you can do these things right now in a less elegant fashion, by creating "3d" objects in e.g. Blender (or AC3D or 3DMax or the software of your choice) which are one-sided planes, have texturing on their one side, and are placed so that they lie flat upon the ground. To get an idea of how to go about it, take a look at this nice tutorial on the Wiki from Roberto Inzerillo: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Blender_Ground_Signs_Tutorial Like I said, this isn't the most elegant way to do these things; but it works right now. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:20:38 +0100 Tim Moore wrote: > > Durk, > Do you have any thoughts on representing some of the AI ground net > features -- specifically parking spaces and hold points -- visually in > the scene? Not to mention making intersection of taxiways a bit more > attractive... Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I finally had some time today to place the AI traffic related user > documentation in the wiki: > > http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Interactive_Traffic Durk, Do you have any thoughts on representing some of the AI ground net features -- specifically parking spaces and hold points -- visually in the scene? Not to mention making intersection of taxiways a bit more attractive... Tim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFWXxWeDhWHdXrDRURAo+IAJ4nrQdFCUwLhza6tVvgJ/kintMCLwCg17hI Wwm9Z1ffBD/ivi1uKm7Ajtg= =hBuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
Hi Folks, I finally had some time today to place the AI traffic related user documentation in the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Interactive_Traffic The current version is still a bit of a rough cut, as I've been learning wiki formatting pretty much as I was typing. The traffic pattern documentation originates from my original pdf/latex document, and the ground network documentation is largely based on an email message to flightgear-users, which I sent a few weeks earlier. Cheers, Durk - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Traffic Documentation
Hi, Durk Talsma wrote: > I finally had some time today to place the AI traffic related user > documentation in the wiki: Great! This clarifies why I don't get AI traffic on EDNY although I created a taxiway network ;-) Cheers, Ralf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel