Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:29:20 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or I have to wait for the next relese of FGLive... ..Unless Pigeon beats me to it, about 2 more weeks. He used Morphix as the base, I'm checking ParallelKnoppix, but with grub, is _made_ for formation flight. ;o) Well, releasing a new FGLive with a newer version of FG is a no brainer. But then I haven't thought of when to make another release yet. Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fully automated, ..url? (Yeah I know it's all pre-alpha etc ideas.) Some of my, Dene, Roberto and Georg's stuff is at http://80.239.32.252/ ..did you chk out Ralf's ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_rag/fgfs-build.tgz and ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_rag/new_builder.tar.gz Me, I was about to piece together a bash script doing something similar. and also anyone can build their own customizable FGLive at mimimium effort. Hopefully the same framework could be used for FG installation in general, too. .. :o) I wanted to setup an autobuild system to build FG binaries, as well as packages. Along with this we can have a build script which you could easily select what to be included. ..debs from cvs too? I too prefer the aptitude route myself, over stuffing things in /opt or /usr/local, one of those I like to share across clusters. So hopefully one day you could pick a version of FG from a list, pick some aircraft you want to be included, pick some sceneries, then ...scenarios ;o) and... build FGLive or install on my machine. We could have a GUI aircraft/sceneries picker/installer which uses the same info/framework. All these are pretty much in the thinking stage, I could be just day dreaming with all this sounded-good ideas. We'll see. P.S. Arnt: You and your GRUB :P ..aye. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:29:20 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fully automated, ..url? (Yeah I know it's all pre-alpha etc ideas.) Arnt, would you please, PLEASE stop permanently annoying people by the request of download-URL's ? If I were Pigeon, I wouldn't even THINK of posting such an URL on this list because I'd certainly have to fear that you'll bomb me with support questions, deliberately crossing the line where 'good taste' (TM) ends. Do you know that people already share a noticeable amount of developer information off-list, simply because they're fed up getting annoyed by you with requests to explain every single step for stuff that's still being worked on - information that _usually_ would show up on such a developer list. Please keep in mind that this is still the FlightGear Developers Mailing List, not the Arnt Karlsen's Private FlightGear Support List. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:26:58 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..with Reply-To set to both himself and the list, so I honor it. Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:29:20 +1000, Pigeon wrote in message Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fully automated, ..url? (Yeah I know it's all pre-alpha etc ideas.) Arnt, would you please, PLEASE stop permanently annoying people by the request of download-URL's ? If I were Pigeon, I wouldn't even THINK of posting such an URL on this list because I'd certainly have to fear that you'll bomb me with support questions, deliberately crossing the line where 'good taste' (TM) ends. ..this was meant as an invitation to share ideas and help make a few better LiveCD's. ..I have done a few custom Knoppix and Damnsmalllinux live cd's and Pigeon initially disagreed to make one for AirVenture, so I decided to do it myself, even if he beats me to it again. ;o) This far we 4 people contributing on my KOSH cd. ..our approaches on the LiveCD's are different to warrant both, he wants to keep it simple stupid(KISS) for dimwit windroids, I also wanna attract new developers (say to do EAA planes) adding some tools and making transition to Debian GNU/Linux, _easy_, and potent, to satisfy the Show me! and Show us!, with enough authority so they stay with us. ..the best way I see doing this, is show the procedures in this years AirVenture NOTAM in FG scenarios in a new Scenery showing KOSH as it is set up during AirVenture, and simply show'em. Do you know that people already share a noticeable amount of developer information off-list, simply because they're fed up getting annoyed by you with requests to explain every single step for stuff that's still being worked on - information that _usually_ would show up on such a developer list. ..pity. I apologise, I usually manage to build stuff out of source code, on TerraGear I assumed _I_ did something wrong, rather than assume TerraGear was broken. ..I'm trying Ralf's Makefiles this weekend and he asked me to give feedback and I like what I've seen this far, so we'll see this or next weekend, there's http://energex2006.com/ too on my list. ..chances are I may have learn to use these CXXFLAGS etc to point builds to specific plib etc installs for TG etc builds, so pointers to learn this is welcome. Please keep in mind that this is still the FlightGear Developers Mailing List, not the Arnt Karlsen's Private FlightGear Support List. ..aye. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
Not too late to join our happy band, plenty of work for all ;-D :-D ene From: Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:02:01 +1000 ..I have done a few custom Knoppix and Damnsmalllinux live cd's and Pigeon initially disagreed to make one for AirVenture, so I decided to do it myself, even if he beats me to it again. ;o) This far we 4 people contributing on my KOSH cd. Whoops, sorry, did I? I must have missed/misunderstood you at some point. I didn't realized I have rejected such a request. I think I did disagree on what you've suggested in terms of approach of doing FGLive (and your GRUB thing :). Perhaps there was a time that I didn't know what AirVenture is :( (Re-reading your e-mail now, and yes, I didn't go to your link to airventure.org :( ) My apologies. Pigeon. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Shop til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
Or I have to wait for the next relese of FGLive... ..Unless Pigeon beats me to it, about 2 more weeks. He used Morphix as the base, I'm checking ParallelKnoppix, but with grub, is _made_ for formation flight. ;o) Well, releasing a new FGLive with a newer version of FG is a no brainer. But then I haven't thought of when to make another release yet. Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fully automated, and also anyone can build their own customizable FGLive at mimimium effort. Hopefully the same framework could be used for FG installation in general, too. I wanted to setup an autobuild system to build FG binaries, as well as packages. Along with this we can have a build script which you could easily select what to be included. So hopefully one day you could pick a version of FG from a list, pick some aircraft you want to be included, pick some sceneries, then build FGLive or install on my machine. We could have a GUI aircraft/sceneries picker/installer which uses the same info/framework. All these are pretty much in the thinking stage, I could be just day dreaming with all this sounded-good ideas. We'll see. P.S. Arnt: You and your GRUB :P Pigeon. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive, etc (was configurable HUD colors)
I'm more of a guy who like to click on, let's say, "FGLive Now !" option to get all the aircrafts, sceneries and the features.Kind of like fast-food-drive-thru-combo-list deal.But then, we might be able to use that combo list as a starting point for furthur fine tuning of what's to be included.My 2 cents.IsaoPigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or I have to wait for the next relese of FGLive... ..Unless Pigeon beats me to it, about 2 more weeks. He used Morphix as the base, I'm checking ParallelKnoppix, but with grub, "is _made_ for formation flight". ;o)Well, releasing a new FGLive with a newer version of FG is a nobrainer. But then I haven't thought of when to make another release yet.Currently I'm revising the building process so that it can be fullyautomated, and also anyone can build their own customizable FGLive atmimimium effort. Hopefully the same framework could be used for FGinstallation in general, too.I wanted to setup an autobuild system to build FG binaries, as wellas packages. Along with this we can have a build script which you couldeasily select what to be included.So hopefully one day you could pick a version of FG from a list,pick some aircraft you want to be included, pick some sceneries, then"build FGLive" or "install on my machine". We could have a GUIaircraft/sceneries picker/installer which uses the same info/framework.All these are pretty much in the "thinking" stage, I could be justday dreaming with all this sounded-good ideas. We'll see.P.S. Arnt: You and your GRUB :PPigeon.___Flightgear-devel mailing listFlightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
