Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
At Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:18:00 -0500 Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote: Probably best to just post on his Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure he monitors that. I have pinged Yuri on russian FG forum (http://www.flightgear.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9t=139p=6421#p6421) http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing any NaN issues with the TU154b. Hmm, could be on my end, you never know. Did you try a few times, at some different airports though? I can load a couple times out of a dozen, but mostly just crashes out with NAN stuff. I frequent LOWI, EDDF, LIMC, LSZS, etc...and have trouble at those as recently as a few hours ago. I will do more testing soon, need to make sure (again) build is clean and also do a new debug build. Though I'm not able to start it - well, not within 10 minutes at least. :) If your using newest version or svn then just press the 's' key and then wait until it is finished. ;) There is a minor issue with incorrect property name though. I've attached a patch. Anyone in contact with the TU154b designers? There's no email in the README. Maybe s.o. can forward the patch. Probably best to just post in the Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure Yurik keeps an eye on that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel --- Regards, Alexey. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
At Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:45:54 +0200 Alexey Varjat var...@gmail.com wrote: At Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:18:00 -0500 Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote: Probably best to just post on his Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure he monitors that. I have pinged Yuri on russian FG forum (http://www.flightgear.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9t=139p=6421#p6421) Yuri has answered on russian FG forum: - I have no access to mail until tomorrow, but guys can perform update from svn hlserver.lin.irk.ru/trunk/TU154B for last revision with changed model properties (it's again dash-underline issue in JSBSim's API) http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing any NaN issues with the TU154b. Hmm, could be on my end, you never know. Did you try a few times, at some different airports though? I can load a couple times out of a dozen, but mostly just crashes out with NAN stuff. I frequent LOWI, EDDF, LIMC, LSZS, etc...and have trouble at those as recently as a few hours ago. I will do more testing soon, need to make sure (again) build is clean and also do a new debug build. Though I'm not able to start it - well, not within 10 minutes at least. :) If your using newest version or svn then just press the 's' key and then wait until it is finished. ;) There is a minor issue with incorrect property name though. I've attached a patch. Anyone in contact with the TU154b designers? There's no email in the README. Maybe s.o. can forward the patch. Probably best to just post in the Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure Yurik keeps an eye on that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel --- Regards, Alexey. --- Regards, Alexey. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
I successfully flew the TU154b now at KSFO, LOWI and EDDF - but experienced no NaNs and no crash (neither did the sim, nor the plane - I'm especially proud of the latter :) ). But yes, I needed to use the chicken's auto start to get anything working at all. Absolutely amazing cockpit, incredible detail, incredible number of switches... Anyone else seeing these issues? cheers, Thorsten On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote: Probably best to just post on his Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure he monitors that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing any NaN issues with the TU154b. Hmm, could be on my end, you never know. Did you try a few times, at some different airports though? I can load a couple times out of a dozen, but mostly just crashes out with NAN stuff. I frequent LOWI, EDDF, LIMC, LSZS, etc...and have trouble at those as recently as a few hours ago. I will do more testing soon, need to make sure (again) build is clean and also do a new debug build. Though I'm not able to start it - well, not within 10 minutes at least. :) If your using newest version or svn then just press the 's' key and then wait until it is finished. ;) There is a minor issue with incorrect property name though. I've attached a patch. Anyone in contact with the TU154b designers? There's no email in the README. Maybe s.o. can forward the patch. Probably best to just post in the Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure Yurik keeps an eye on that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:46 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: I successfully flew the TU154b now at KSFO, LOWI and EDDF - but experienced no NaNs and no crash (neither did the sim, nor the plane - I'm especially proud of the latter :) ). But yes, I needed to use the chicken's auto start to get anything working at all. Absolutely amazing cockpit, incredible detail, incredible number of switches... Anyone else seeing these issues? Thanks for testing Thorsten. Unfortunately I'm still getting the same issue here with completely fresh builds of both the next and 2.2.0 branches. I really seem to have a knack for finding off the wall errors other don't see. I will try to debug soon and see if I can find anything meaningful about what is triggering it. cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
I'm not seeing any NaN issues with the TU154b. Though I'm not able to start it - well, not within 10 minutes at least. :) There is a minor issue with incorrect property name though. I've attached a patch. Anyone in contact with the TU154b designers? There's no email in the README. Maybe s.o. can forward the patch. cheers, Thorsten --- a/TU154B/engines.nas 2009-05-14 21:11:09.0 +0200 +++ b/TU154B/engines.nas 2011-01-09 17:42:10.0 +0100 @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ var eng_1_handler = func{ settimer( eng_1_handler, ENGINE_UPDATE_PERIOD ); -if( getprop( engines/engine[0]/egt_degf ) == nil ) return; +if( getprop( engines/engine[0]/egt-degf ) == nil ) return; if( getprop( controls/engines/engine[0]/cutoff ) == nil ) return; if( getprop( engines/engine[0]/n2 ) == nil ) return; var pwr = getprop(tu154/systems/electrical/buses/DC27-bus-L/volts); @@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ # EGT delivery to fdm property tree setprop( fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/engine[0]/egt-degc, - getprop( engines/engine[0]/egt_degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); + getprop( engines/engine[0]/egt-degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); if( getprop( tu154/switches/startpanel-cold ) == nil ) return; @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ if( getprop( engines/engine[1]/n2 ) == nil ) return; # EGT delivery to fdm property tree setprop( fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/engine[1]/egt-degc, - getprop( engines/engine[1]/egt_degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); + getprop( engines/engine[1]/egt-degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); if( getprop( tu154/switches/startpanel-cold ) == nil ) return; var pwr = getprop(tu154/systems/electrical/buses/DC27-bus-L/volts); @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ if( getprop( engines/engine[2]/n2 ) == nil ) return; # EGT delivery to fdm property tree setprop( fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/engine[2]/egt-degc, - getprop( engines/engine[2]/egt_degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); + getprop( engines/engine[2]/egt-degf ) * 0.55 - 17 ); if( getprop( tu154/switches/startpanel-cold ) == nil ) return; var pwr = getprop(tu154/systems/electrical/buses/DC27-bus-L/volts); -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
Probably best to just post on his Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure he monitors that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing any NaN issues with the TU154b. Hmm, could be on my end, you never know. Did you try a few times, at some different airports though? I can load a couple times out of a dozen, but mostly just crashes out with NAN stuff. I frequent LOWI, EDDF, LIMC, LSZS, etc...and have trouble at those as recently as a few hours ago. I will do more testing soon, need to make sure (again) build is clean and also do a new debug build. Though I'm not able to start it - well, not within 10 minutes at least. :) If your using newest version or svn then just press the 's' key and then wait until it is finished. ;) There is a minor issue with incorrect property name though. I've attached a patch. Anyone in contact with the TU154b designers? There's no email in the README. Maybe s.o. can forward the patch. Probably best to just post in the Tu154 thread on the forum, pretty sure Yurik keeps an eye on that. http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=4925 cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
Hi Jacob, The tu154 appears to be working fine for me here with the latest git as of Saturday morning. You might try doing a make clean and rebuild for simgear/flightgear just to rule out that there isn't any weirdness that has crept into your local tree, or maybe something got out of sync between system updates and flightgear/simgear code updates. Regards, Curt. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jacob Burbach wrote: Updated my copy yesterday and now I cannot load flightgear with the Tu154B anymore. Trying just results in massive amounts of NAN errors and crash. Looks like the entire property tree and everything else got NaNifiedsee log. Anyone have any clues what may have changed to cause this? Aircraft hasn't changed in months and has always worked perfectly with git until this fresh build yesterday. log is here http://pastebin.com/utrUVmeu (would attach but got rejected by list mod) cheers -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jacob, The tu154 appears to be working fine for me here with the latest git as of Saturday morning. You might try doing a make clean and rebuild for simgear/flightgear just to rule out that there isn't any weirdness that has crept into your local tree, or maybe something got out of sync between system updates and flightgear/simgear code updates. Regards, Curt. Hmm, I'll try again to be sure, but I always do a make clean make install whenever dealing with simgear/flightgear because of issues in past. Also just to be clear I am referring to the Tu154B from Yurik, not the old Tu154 in the flightgear repository. http://yurik.flightgear.ru/tu154b-release/tu154b-1.0_jun2010.tar.gz svn://hlserver.lin.irk.ru/trunk/TU154B cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jacob Burbach wrote: Hmm, I'll try again to be sure, but I always do a make clean make install whenever dealing with simgear/flightgear because of issues in past. Also just to be clear I am referring to the Tu154B from Yurik, not the old Tu154 in the flightgear repository. http://yurik.flightgear.ru/tu154b-release/tu154b-1.0_jun2010.tar.gz svn://hlserver.lin.irk.ru/trunk/TU154B Oh, then I don't know ... I've always lived in the world of our git aircraft and haven't gone out and tried any of the 3rd party aircraft. (And sorry to waste a message saying I don't know ...) Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, then I don't know ... I've always lived in the world of our git aircraft and haven't gone out and tried any of the 3rd party aircraft. (And sorry to waste a message saying I don't know ...) Regards, Curt. Too bad, if that's true your missing out on a few of the best aircraft flightgear has to offer. ;-) Well, I know others fly it, and links are there for anyone else who wants to take ten minutes to test it out. Personally I'd be concerned about the possibility that something has changed that could trigger such a massive nan breakage with a release nearing, regardless of the aircraft origin...but to each his own. cheers -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
No worries Curt, certainly wasn't trying to say you personally have to look into it or make it a priority or anything..I know your a busy guy like the rest of us. Was just saying the links are there if anyone else is interested in giving it a try. I've never seen nan errors like this before myself, and whatever may have changed I don't think it could be more than a week or two old as it was working fine with git builds back then. cheers! -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Latest git results in massive NAN errors with Tu154B
Updated my copy yesterday and now I cannot load flightgear with the Tu154B anymore. Trying just results in massive amounts of NAN errors and crash. Looks like the entire property tree and everything else got NaNifiedsee log. Anyone have any clues what may have changed to cause this? Aircraft hasn't changed in months and has always worked perfectly with git until this fresh build yesterday. log is here http://pastebin.com/utrUVmeu (would attach but got rejected by list mod) cheers -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel