Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Thanks, I've been looking for a good DATCOM+ example to help me understand the program. Yep, datcom is not really self explanatory :-( I learned a lot by using the examples from Bill's page http://www.holycows.net/datcom/ together with the users's manual USAF_DATCOM_UM.pdf, also linked on Bill's page. Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Very nice! Can you fix this link though? I get a 403 error. http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/SenecaII.dcm fixed - sorry. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Torsten Dreyer wrote: Hi, I spent some time on the Seneca II model. The update is available here Very nice! Can you fix this link though? I get a 403 error. http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/SenecaII.dcm Josh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Keep up the good work - can we expect to see this in CVS soon? I'm lazy and much prefer cvs up to faffing about with tarballs... I am not in the position to put this into CVS but I like the idea to have it there. May I kindly ask for a volunteer CVS janitor to check it in? Thanks, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
* Torsten Dreyer -- Thursday 01 June 2006 09:07: May I kindly ask for a volunteer CVS janitor to check it in? Done, thanks! Very nice aircraft. :-) m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi, here is my version 0.3 of the PA34-200T Seneca II. http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: Added structural icing Added Dave Perry's wonderful prop-disc animation Animated and clickable circuitbreaker panel (still electrical nonfunction) Switchpanel: magneto switches operational (and required!) Annunciator panel updated, fuelpump light ok, testbutton working Awful hack to propeller to throttle RPM to 1000 on idle Switchpanel: fuel pump switches and primer working Fuel selectors: clickable and animated Screenshots, details about the icing implementation and a checklist can be found at the mentioned URL. What's next? - I am preparing a more detailed HOWTO about flying this Seneca - some kind of virtual typerating - On my next flight, I will pick some sound samples (gear warning, stall warning, circuit breaker popping, electric fuelpumps etc.) - Add some ice animations to the wings, windshield glass etc. Happy landings, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
If you want do see and feel the ice in action: disable real weather fetch, goto Menu-Weather Conditions and create a nasty november day in Hamburg/EDDH/HAM: on ground 1degc, dewpoint 0degc at 3000ft -6degc, dewpoint -6degc at 6000ft -10degc, dewpoint -10degc at 9000ft -15degc, dewpoint -15degc goto Menu-Clouds Layer 0: 500ft broken, thickness 500ft Layer 1: 1000ft overcast, thickness 7000ft climb and maintain 6000ft, fly some of your favorite holdings. Watch the temperature probe in the upper right corner of your front window. It will show a growing white layer (yes, its ice). And watch your Airspeed indicator. When airspeed drops below 100knots, hit the Surface Deice button for a second (green control light goes on for 6 seconds and boots are infated) and see the airspeed increase again. Enjoy, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Frederic Bouvier wrote: And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. Now that the isses appear to be sorted out you could also send some some of these to me, if you like, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Torsten Dreyer schrieb: Hi, I spent some time on the Seneca II model. The update is available here http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: ... Torsten Hi Torsten, thank you for the latest update of your Seneca II. It is not only a wonderful artwork with many details outside and inside (like the headphone on the right seat :-) ) and a wonderful 3d-panel but also very valuable from the real pilot proven aspect. If I am not wrong - I just did one landing with the new Seneca II - you also fixed the flap setting behaviour problem. Alone to fly this aircraft is a big joy but when I combined it with the new outstanding really unbelievable *Paris* scenery (screenshots on the German FG forum) I got a very strong simulated flying experience. This just as a little feedback from a Seneca II fan :-) Regards Georg EDDW --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi Georg thank you for the latest update of your Seneca II. It is not only a wonderful artwork with many details outside and inside (like the headphone on the right seat :-) ) and a wonderful 3d-panel but also very valuable from the real pilot proven aspect. Thanks If I am not wrong - I just did one landing with the new Seneca II - you also fixed the flap setting behaviour problem. Correct, my first attempt to get the fdm config was feeding datcom+ with the geometric dimensions of the aircraft without validating the output of datcom. Now I used this output and merged it with some calculated values for drag and lift coefficients and some experience with the real thing. For example I removed the pitch due to flaps factor and adjusted lift due to flaps and drag due to flaps. When setting flaps now with a trimmed aircraft, you may notice a little nose up for a few seconds before you go straight again. Oh and when you fly, don't forget to close the cowl flaps (use the menu Seneca-Open/Close cowl flaps) after your climb. You will get approx. 10 knots more cruise speed. Alone to fly this aircraft is a big joy but when I combined it with the new outstanding really unbelievable *Paris* scenery (screenshots on the German FG forum) I got a very strong simulated flying experience. Got a URL? This just as a little feedback from a Seneca II fan :-) Very appreciated! Happy landings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Georg Vollnhals wrote: Alone to fly this aircraft is a big joy but when I combined it with the new outstanding really unbelievable *Paris* scenery (screenshots on the German FG forum) [...] Unfortunately you have to be a registered user if you want to look at the pictures. Posting references to external locations makes it easier for everyone. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Quoting Martin Spott : Georg Vollnhals wrote: Alone to fly this aircraft is a big joy but when I combined it with the new outstanding really unbelievable *Paris* scenery (screenshots on the German FG forum) [...] Unfortunately you have to be a registered user if you want to look at the pictures. Posting references to external locations makes it easier for everyone. http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Torsten Dreyer schrieb: Got a URL? Torsten, I know that this answer is too detailed for you. But there may be some other people reading this: All objects are in Stockill's model database (and the terrain has to be downloaded from the FG scenery server, if not already installed). http://fgfsdb.stockill.org/models.php German FlightGear Forum (Torsten you are a member, but all the other interested may see the pictures only if logged in - a pity!) http://www.flight-gear.de/index.php?option=com_wrapperItemid=20 Regards Georg EDDW --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Frederic Bouvier wrote: http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm This is really impressing - does anyone have a recommendation which graphics card to use in order to run FlightGear with so many textured objects at a reasonable frame rate - without disabling any other visual effects ? Does FlightGear actually re-use the textures for all the identical buildings in Paris or are the textures being loaded one copy for each object ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Quoting Martin Spott : Frederic Bouvier wrote: http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm This is really impressing - does anyone have a recommendation which graphics card to use in order to run FlightGear with so many textured objects at a reasonable frame rate - without disabling any other visual effects ? Does FlightGear actually re-use the textures for all the identical buildings in Paris or are the textures being loaded one copy for each object ? The author of the conversion said that it is reasonably fast with a GeForce 440 MX, that has a GeForce2 core. In fact, the placement of object has been optimised to group these models with the same texture. Jon changed his export procedure for that. And objects are shared, that means there is only one occurence in memory for each, and with recent texture management improvement made by Melchior, Erik and me, there is only one texture change to display all 2400+ models in the tile. So it is equivalent to a single big model. And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Frederic Bouvier wrote: The author of the conversion said that it is reasonably fast with a GeForce 440 MX, that has a GeForce2 core. In fact, the placement of object has been optimised to group these models with the same texture. Jon changed his export procedure for that. And objects are shared, that means there is only one occurence in memory for each, and with recent texture management improvement made by Melchior, Erik and me, there is only one texture change to display all 2400+ models in the tile. So it is equivalent to a single big model. The export script needed changing anyway - it had reached the stage where it wouldn't run. It now exports shared and static models in 2 seperate stages, each optimised for the type being processed (treating shared models in the same way as static ones ate LOTS of ram, and made the script fall over). And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. Keep them coming :-) Jon --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:28:54 +0200 Frederic Bouvier wrote: And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. Hey Fred, are the procedures that you and Emmanuel have had to go through to convert the X-Plane scenery fairly straightforward? Is it something that other people can just jump in and do fairly easily, and thus get a lot of stuff converted over? (in cases where licensing issues aren't a roadblock) -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi Chris, Quoting Chris Metzler : On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:28:54 +0200 Frederic Bouvier wrote: And the Paris scenery is not finished. I have a whole bunch of models to send to Jon. Hey Fred, are the procedures that you and Emmanuel have had to go through to convert the X-Plane scenery fairly straightforward? Is it something that other people can just jump in and do fairly easily, and thus get a lot of stuff converted over? (in cases where licensing issues aren't a roadblock) First thing is to get the X-Plane to Blender plugin ( a python script ) available on the net. After, you import OBJ models and export to .AC. You'll also have to convert textures from .png to .rgb and reassign them in Blender ( coordinates are good, only names are wrong ). Then you have to extract object placement. I didn't practise myself but I know that there is a tool to export ENV files to text. I also know that X-Plane 8 uses another binary format but I don't have the name handy. Orientations must be converted with the formulae : fg_heading = 90 - xp_heading If you want animations, LOD or night lighting as currently ( did you try flying over Paris at night ? ) you also must provide an XML file. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Quoting Frederic Bouvier : Then you have to extract object placement. I didn't practise myself but I know that there is a tool to export ENV files to text. I also know that X-Plane 8 uses another binary format but I don't have the name handy. http://www.xsquawkbox.net/scenery/tools.php http://www.marginal.org.uk/x-planescenery/ -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
snip First thing is to get the X-Plane to Blender plugin ( a python script ) available on the net. After, you import OBJ models and export to .AC. You'll also have to convert textures from .png to .rgb and reassign them in Blender ( coordinates are good, only names are wrong ). snip Is there no way to use .png files as textures in FG? Richard This e-mail has been scanned for Bede Scientific Instruments for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi, I spent some time on the Seneca II model. The update is available here http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: - improved JSBSim FDM, performance data are now close to the POH data - made the engines supercharged - minor changes to airframe 3d model (doors may be opened, cowlings remodeled etc.) - added fuel flow gauge - added piper style OAT gauge (you need to pitch up your view to see it) - added circuit breaker panel (3d model only, still not clickable and not yet animated) - added propeller-feather when rpm control is below 0.1 (but propeller is not yet feathering) - added functionality to gma340 audio panel - started lighting of instruments for night flying - things I don't remember I hope you like it! enjoy and happy landings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
