Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Hofman
Mike Rawlins wrote:
A google search on flightgear and frame rate gave me a
posting that suggested trying these options that have
been shown to increase frame rate by ~300% (over
default settings, as tested on SGI):
--control=mouse
--disable-intro-music
--disable-random-objects
--disable-sound
--disable-hud-3d
--disable-specular-highlight
--fog-fastest
--model-hz=60
--geometry=800x600
--visibility=1.0
--fov=50
--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/detailed=500
--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/rough=5000
--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/bare=15000
--prop:/environment/clouds/layer[1]/coverage=clear
--log-level=alert
After doing some testing on the first group above, I
note that the geometry seems to be the only parameter
that increases frame rate for me.  I had been using
--geometry=1400x1020 on my Dell laptop (1.4 GHz
processor, 2 GB RAM, NVIDIA card), giving about 7 fps
on runway. Using 800x600 increases rate to just over
20 fps.  I'm wondering if the other ones
(specular-highlight, random-objects, model-hz) are
known to cause big differences in frame rate.
A difference in framerate due to Specular highlight and/or random 
objects depends on the Video chipset (GPU) whether it makes a difference 
or not.

A difference in framerate due to changes in the model-hz depends on the 
main processor (CPU). I would not recommend using this option unless it 
_really_ makes a difference.

Also, what about the second group (--prop:)?  I really
don't understand them too much.
It specifies the complexity of static scenery models at three different 
stages (Level Of Detail; LOD). Setting them to lower numbers should 
increase the framerate and setting the numbers higher would improve 
visible accuracy.

The last of those specify not to display any cloud cover.
Lastly, should the following work to show frame rate
on startup?  Didn't work for me and gave no error:
--prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true
This is only for showing the framerate in the alternative HUD.
Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Rawlins

--- Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Lastly, should the following work to show frame
 rate
  on startup?  Didn't work for me and gave no error:
  
  --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true
 
 This is only for showing the framerate in the
 alternative HUD.
 
 Erik

Erik, 
Thanks for helpful rendering info. 

As for showing frame rate, it is a bit inconsistent,
IMO, that one can put frame rate in lower right corner
of normal c172 cockpit view by clicking File - Browse
Internal Properties - sim - hud - draw-fps[0] and
setting to true.  ^^^

Is there no way to get frame rate to appear (in normal
view, not HUD) on startup?

Mike




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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Jean-Christophe CHARRIER
Hi,

Le mercredi 04 mai 2005 à 06:31 -0700, Mike Rawlins a écrit :

 Is there no way to get frame rate to appear (in normal
 view, not HUD) on startup?

Just add in your preferences.xml file, between the sim /sim markups:

 hud
  draw-fpstrue/draw-fps
 /hud
   
 to have it by default

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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Rawlins

--- Jean-Christophe CHARRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Le mercredi 04 mai 2005 à 06:31 -0700, Mike Rawlins
 a écrit :
 
  Is there no way to get frame rate to appear (in
 normal
  view, not HUD) on startup?
 
 Just add in your preferences.xml file, between the
 sim /sim markups:
 
  hud
   draw-fpstrue/draw-fps
  /hud

  to have it by default
 
 -- 
 Jean-Christophe

That didn't work for me.  I added those lines toward
the end of the sim calls in
$FG_ROOT/preferences.xml, a few lines after the nimitz
scenario section:

  ai
   enabled type=booltrue/enabled
   !-- scenarionimitz_demo/scenario --
   !-- scenarioaircraft_demo/scenario --
  /ai

  !--to provide a default value that shows ALL
aircraft regardless of developme
nt status--
  aircraft-min-statusall/aircraft-min-status

   hud
draw-fpstrue/draw-fps
   /hud

 /sim

Also, I'm not seeing frame rate in HUD when setting

--prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true

in .fgfsrc file.

Mike


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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Andy Ross
Mike Rawlins wrote:
 That didn't work for me.  [...]
 Also, I'm not seeing frame rate in HUD when setting

 --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true

Are you sure you're looking in the right place?  The FPS is shown in
the bottom right side of the screen, not in the actual heads-up area.
The property is definitely correct; cutting and pasting exactly that
argument onto my command line shows the FPS clear as day.

Andy

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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Rawlins

--- Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike Rawlins wrote:
  That didn't work for me.  [...]
  Also, I'm not seeing frame rate in HUD when
 setting
 
  --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true
 
 Are you sure you're looking in the right place?  The
 FPS is shown in
 the bottom right side of the screen, not in the
 actual heads-up area.
 The property is definitely correct; cutting and
 pasting exactly that
 argument onto my command line shows the FPS clear as
 day.
 
 Andy

I just noticed the characters 'true' when I used the
menu to check the /sim/hud/draw-fps string.  So I
tried using

--prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true

without the double quotes on true and I got the frame
rate displayed in bottom right corner. Excellent! A
previous post mentioned that setting this property in
this way is only for showing the framerate in the
alternative HUD. Can't say I know what is the
alternative HUD.

Mike





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[Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-03 Thread Mike Rawlins
A google search on flightgear and frame rate gave me a
posting that suggested trying these options that have
been shown to increase frame rate by ~300% (over
default settings, as tested on SGI):

--control=mouse
--disable-intro-music
--disable-random-objects
--disable-sound
--disable-hud-3d
--disable-specular-highlight
--fog-fastest
--model-hz=60
--geometry=800x600
--visibility=1.0
--fov=50

--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/detailed=500
--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/rough=5000
--prop:/sim/rendering/static-lod/bare=15000
--prop:/environment/clouds/layer[1]/coverage=clear
--log-level=alert


After doing some testing on the first group above, I
note that the geometry seems to be the only parameter
that increases frame rate for me.  I had been using
--geometry=1400x1020 on my Dell laptop (1.4 GHz
processor, 2 GB RAM, NVIDIA card), giving about 7 fps
on runway. Using 800x600 increases rate to just over
20 fps.  I'm wondering if the other ones
(specular-highlight, random-objects, model-hz) are
known to cause big differences in frame rate.

Also, what about the second group (--prop:)?  I really
don't understand them too much.

Lastly, should the following work to show frame rate
on startup?  Didn't work for me and gave no error:

--prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true

Mike

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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 3, 2005 06:56 pm, Mike Rawlins wrote:
 After doing some testing on the first group above, I
 note that the geometry seems to be the only parameter
 that increases frame rate for me.  I had been using
 --geometry=1400x1020 on my Dell laptop (1.4 GHz
 processor, 2 GB RAM, NVIDIA card), giving about 7 fps
 on runway. Using 800x600 increases rate to just over
 20 fps.  I'm wondering if the other ones
 (specular-highlight, random-objects, model-hz) are
 known to cause big differences in frame rate.
hmm... should this be made a default parameter when FlightGear is launched?

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-users] frame rate lower at higher screen resolution (etc.)

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 4, 2005 12:31 am, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 hmm... should this be made a default parameter when FlightGear is launched?

 Ampere

Nevermind.  It just resizes the size of the window.

Ampere

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