FLUXLIST: No long posts filled HTML and geek code, please

2000-03-30 Thread Ken Friedman

Is there some reason why posts are filled with long blocks of HTML and geek
code ?
Can't we just get plain vanilla text messages in ascii ?

Pleaaase ... be careful with drfault settings and with forwards
from the web.
This stuff is a pain in the eye, and it clutters up the list.

Ken

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Re: FLUXLIST: Doors of Perception. Court Rules (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

I didnt see this html stuff at the end of the message, I though I had cut
it away.




FLUXLIST: Show about ... (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

Just to show you my context, slightly edited, no d-words etc:

-- Forwarded message --
I just received a telephone call from somebody and Time-Warner, on the
Warner side.  Seems the want to do a show about a web site that promotes
... , which turns out to be ...org.

The plan to have some feminists and the web page owne, and suggested
that I might do as a representative of the First Amendment.

I explained that I am not photogenic and that I think the site
is an example of sophmoric humour (I now think that it is more
like satire, but at the time I had never actually seen the site.),
and that I was uncomfortable about the strong feelings that the site
arouses so that I would explain that the first amendment problems would
be the same if the site were ``shoplifting.org.''

At that point there was no longer any interest in me.

I thought, however, that I should alert you all to the fact that this
show is on the way apparently, and that its slant will obviously be
that  org is seriously advocating ... .

I have to go to class now, but if any of you more photogenic types
want to see if can get a slot on the show to represent the fista
amendment, send me e-mail, and I can give you the phonenumber of
the producer, or whatever his title is, in a couple of hours.

In haste,





Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 The nature of e-mail is one of high ambiguity and that is worth remembering

Media in general. But I suspect easter bunnies are less sensitiv. Or what
?

Has Fluxus ever been so harmless ?

No. 




Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

2000-03-30 Thread Roger Stevens



Maybe we could try a list, make a game.

I am sensitive for:

The Easter Bunny



R





Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Lord Hasenpfeffer

Trout Mask Replica
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection.
I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several years now as well.

Myke



Re: FLUXLIST: Beefheart

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 The Graham Bond Organisation and Julie Driscoll were both well known in
 Britain in the seventies
 (or possibly late sixties - my memory is hazy there)
 I wouldn't have thought they had much to do with fluxicity or the art scene

Graham Bond was a strange person. Clean art for clean museums. How was
Hanson ?






Re: FLUXLIST: Sun Ra

2000-03-30 Thread Lord Hasenpfeffer

 Don Van Vliet.

How exactly is "Vliet" pronounced?

Myke



Re: FLUXLIST: Sun Ra

2000-03-30 Thread Carol Starr

listening to stuff i haven't thought of in years. this place is really
dusty 
c, :)

carol starr
taos, new mexico, usa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







FLUXLIST: Re: circular breathing

2000-03-30 Thread Steve Schultz

Anyone ever heard of Rhashan Roland Kirk? I always liked his music a
 
 Didnt he invent this:

  (circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg.

 (Without the leg.)

 H.

The aborigines have done circular breathing since forever, that's how a
didgeridoo is played.



Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Reed Altemus

"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my
opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout
Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.

RA

Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:

 Trout Mask Replica
 Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

 Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection.
 I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several years now as well.

 Myke




Re: FLUXLIST: query/ Graham Bond Organisation/Julie Driscoll

2000-03-30 Thread Reed Altemus



Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

 Yes, I know of John McLaughlin if you mean the guitarist who studied Eastern music 
and

  did jazz fusion. Same guy?

 Yep ! From England. He did some nice music in 69 with Tony Williams
 Lifetime. "Emergency" was one of my favourite music some years ago.

Yeah, have heard of Tony Williams too, the drummer. I never really spent much time
listening to fusion. It has sort of a bad reputation among more purist jazz musicians. 
More
of a post-bop man myself: Monk, Ornette Coleman etc. then all the New York 
improvisational
stuff (80's). Then Fred Frith and his sort of idiosyncratic activities and projects. 
But
that was a couple of years ago and I've lost track of it all at this point.

RA





Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Lord Hasenpfeffer

 "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my
 opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout
 Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.

That's pretty much in line with the things I've read about it in the past.
I think there is a review of the CD in an old Rolling Stone somewhere in
my collection from when it first came out.

Myke



Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my
 opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout
 Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.

I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible
String Band ?




Re: FLUXLIST: query/ Graham Bond Organisation/Julie Driscoll

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 Yeah, have heard of Tony Williams too, the drummer. I never 

Fred Frith etc, music with shaver. Its difficult to say that Lifetime is
fusion. He was the drummer of...and its a trio, John Mc, and Organ. What
later became "fusion" wasnt yet developed. The other tape I heard those
day was the soundtrack of Blow Up, definitely fluxus, isnt it ;-)




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: circular breathing

2000-03-30 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 The aborigines have done circular breathing since forever, that's how a
 didgeridoo is played.

Maybe he used it exessively, in jAZZ, dont know. 




RE: FLUXLIST: No long posts filled HTML and geek code, please

2000-03-30 Thread Potter, Nick (Worley - Spotswood)

Ken,

I think your post may confuse people who don't see the long blocks of HTML
and geek code that you do. I believe you're referring to Heiko Recktenwald's
post titled "Doors of Perception. Court Rules (fwd)" Which contains an
attachment. I see the attachment, but I don't see the code you refer to. I
don't know what mail reader you're using, but most email progs will
interpret this code as an attachment. I have no opinion on the ethics of
attachments on this lists. 

nick

--this has been a fluxus performance titled "geek code prt. 2 act. 23"--

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Friedman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 30 March 2000 17:55
 To:   Fluxlist
 Subject:  FLUXLIST: No long posts filled HTML and geek code, please
 
 Is there some reason why posts are filled with long blocks of HTML and
 geek
 code ?
 Can't we just get plain vanilla text messages in ascii ?
 
 Pleaaase ... be careful with drfault settings and with forwards
 from the web.
 This stuff is a pain in the eye, and it clutters up the list.
 
 Ken
 



Re: FLUXLIST: Biennial Internet Art

2000-03-30 Thread narvis ...pez

At 08:56 am -0700 30/3/00, Carol Starr wrote:
The Whitney Biennial includes Internet Art this year--

the smell of newness?

as a dog does when it scents a hare??

?? isaac babel (use to said)

...pez
ps: 25 years ago
we had the video for first time
at the same biennal





RE: FLUXLIST: No long posts filled HTML and geek code, please

2000-03-30 Thread narvis ...pez

At 07:20 am +0800 31/3/00, Potter, Nick (Worley - Spotswood) wrote:

nick

--this has been a fluxus performance titled "geek code prt. 2 act. 23"--

wrong
this is the act. 25 or 27
in my personnal account.

takealookatthearchives

...pez
ps: did someone remember the mahavihsnu orchestra?
(revelation
no more my heart shall sob or grieve.
my days and nights dissolve in god's own light.
above the toil of life my soul
is a bird of fire winging the infinite)=
sri chinmoy
© 1972

ps2: the manavishnu orchestra: john mclaughlin (guitar), rick laird (bass),
billy cobham (percussion),, jerry goodman (violin), jan hammer (keyboard
moog)
i'm hearing now "celestial terrestrial commuters"
maybe some shudder here





Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

2000-03-30 Thread George Free




 I think most people here find the posting of such material witout some
 contextualising statement somewhat offensive to say the least.

This is a point of view I dont accept. Contextualisation...



Is it possible not to have a context? I don't see how it could be.
"Contextualization" would only be making the context explicit. In this case,
analyzing and stating motives.

cheers,
George





Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Ann Klefstad

All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums?

AK

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 From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query
 Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM
 
  "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In
my
  opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like
Trout
  Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.
 
 I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of
Incredible
 String Band ?
 



Re: FLUXLIST: zappa/beefheart

2000-03-30 Thread narvis ...pez

At 07:43 pm -0700 30/3/00, Carol Starr wrote:
isn't it just too bad the armadillo closed, it was great fun.
music certainly takes one down memory lane.there is vinyl all over the
studio since this thread started.
c, :)

so do still in vinyl times
with ten boxes of 33 rpm's
including zappas  several mclaughlins
ready to become mp3s, cds, dvds, or tapes
to share with the "fluxlisttribe"
on similar* true taste-resonance

...pez
*or diffrent





Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread Kathy Forer

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
   More on pop music: has anybody "U" of
Incredible
   String Band ?

center
Yeah, I got that.
/center

In fact it's about the only thing I've gotten lately: all these 
invisible jim-beam zen fluxbunnies, spasmodically original coding 
artifacts and idiosyncratic mechanization circular breathing I 
just don't get it. Harumph. Hari, hare, hear truth. Take a right at 
the next star, then straight on 'til moonshine.

I'll do a tape trade of "I"/"thou"/-"U" for anything I've probably 
never heard, even in the distant past.

Birthday yesterday: I told my cousin who should know better that I 
was ten years younger than I was, just for the hell of it. Funny, she 
about believed me. I went on to tell other people and no one seemed 
to object. I think they're offended to think I'm really ten years 
older than they'd like to think I am; but there, that's it, that's 
the way it is.



Re: FLUXLIST: query

2000-03-30 Thread primate _

I do I do! I have there pop album and I have access to a couple more...

Nick




All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums?

AK

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  From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query
  Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM
 
   "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In
my
   opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like
Trout
   Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.
 
  I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of
Incredible
  String Band ?
 

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