FLUXLIST: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:42:56 +0200 From: boek861 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: *boek861 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE A//ESPAÑOL B// ENGLISH C//CATALAN [anilina] MailArt Convo: Stop Genocidio Mapuche Fecha: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:12:50 -1300 De: "sobaculcha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amigos: Les hago llegar una nueva convocatoria de mailart que, como podrán ver en el cuerpo del mail, requiere de la solidaridad inmediata de todos nosotros. Como siempre confío en vuestra respuesta. Un fuerte abrazo, Txalo Toloza-Fernández Autoediciones AnilinA RED POSTAL xvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvx Español/// Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra El pueblo mapuche es uno de los pueblos indígenas originarios de SurAmérica, ubicado básicamente en el sur de Chile y Argentina. Desde la colonización española (1536) empieza su historia de opresión, aculturación y usurpación de territorios. En la actualidad representan el 10% del total de habitantes de Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.). En Argentina esta proporción es mucho menor. El gobierno chileno, en el marco de la globalización económica que prioriza la ley del dinero y beneficios por encima de todo, sigue destruyendo las relaciones de l@s mapuche con la tierra. En estos momentos, la empresa transnacional española ENDESA, lleva a cabo un megaproyecto hidroeléctrico en el río Bio Bio, que provocará la destrucción de la cultura mapuche, inundando las tierras, casas, cementerios y bosques de un centenar de familias de las comunidades indígenas. Desde el colectivo Marrichiweu y AutoEdiciones AnilinA denunciamos esta injusticia con el pueblo Mapuche- Pehuenche del Alto BioBio, y responsabilizamos el gobierno chileno y a Martín Villa, presidente de Endesa España como causantes directos de esta agresión. Llamamos a tod@s l@s artistas, estudiantes, colectivos, organizaciones y personas que se sientan motivad@s para expresarse en contra de la violencia del neoliberalismo que extermina al pueblo mapuche. Tema: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop Genocidio Mapuche! Tamaño: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms) No selección / No devolución / Documentación a todos Exposición por medio de página web y en salas de España y Chile Fecha Límite: 30 de Marzo de 2001 Envíos a:Stop Genocidio Mapuche / AutoEdiciones AnilinA c/Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª 08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat Barcelona / España Contacto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Más información convocatoria y pueblo Mapuche: http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu Copia y pasa xvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvx B// English/// Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra Mapuche are one of the indigenous original groups in South America. They are mainly located in South Chile and Argentina. From the Spanish Colonisation (1536), there begins their story about oppression, acculturation and lands usurpation. At the moment, they represent 10% of the population in Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 Hab.). In Argentina, this number is much lesser. The Chile government, in the times of economical globalisation that gives priority to money and profits above all, goes on destroying the natural links between mapuche people and the earth. En these moments, the Spanish transnational enterprise ENDESA is carrying out a hydroelectric megaproject in Bio Bio River. It will cause the mapuche culture destruction and it will cover with water all lands, woods, cemeteries and houses where live a hundred of families. From our association, Marrichiweu Group, and AutoEdiciones AnilinA we denounce this unfair situation in Mapuche-Pehuenche lands from the Alto Bio Bio, and we want to make the Chile government and Martín Villa (who is the president of Endesa España) responsible. They both are the direct casuists of this aggression. We call to all artists, students, organizations, collectives and people around the world that feel they want to express their repugnance on the violence of the neoliberalism that extermines mapuche. Theme: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop Mapuche Genocide! Size: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms) No selection / No devolution / Documentación for all Exhibition on website and room galleries in Spain and Chili Dead Line: March, 30, 2001 Send to:Stop Genocidio Mapuche / AutoEdiciones AnilinA c/ Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª 08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat Barcelona - España Contact:[EMAIL PROTECTED] More info convo Mapuches people: http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu.htm Copy pass xvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvx C// Català// Mapuche: Gent de la Terra El poble mapuche és un dels pobles indígenes originaris de SudAmèrica, ubicat bàsicament al sud de Xile i Argentina. Des de la colonització espanyola (1536) comença la seva història d'opressió, aculturació i usurpació de territoris. En l'actualitat representen el 10% del total d'habitants de Xile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.). A Argentina aquesta proporció és molt menor. El govern xilè, en el marc de la
Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
Can use acetone to do the transfers from xeroxes--so xerox images from newspaper etc and then transfer w/ acetone, a relatively benign solvent (much less deadly than some others). Also, since the advent of soy inks, the old solvent-transfer from newspaper thing doesn't work as well. This circumvents that. AK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
dear ak: my gawd! many THANKS for your info! does indeed turn out BY CHANCE (?--"meant to be")-- do have huge lovely metal can of acetone here still "bran-nu" as never opened can't recall why have it may be like abt 85% or so of my work materials "found" "while in the line of duty"--i.e. walking abt or at a sale of art supplies figured some day of use --and NOW IS! have found though for my purposes--ie. love of the corroded, cracked, fragmented, "if it's broke don't fix it"-- (much like myself any more) that much like effects though "poor" (arte povera/art brut?) of the old method--makes interesting forms/traces of words/worlds so--shall "sally forth" (always wondered who she is) and try acetone! funny you look at it and is: ace tone sounds like a Fifties rock and roll singer but say it is "ass-ah-tone" "adventures with language" as old school books wd call it! again many many thanks! yet another thing of use in the world! (or my corner of it--) --dave baptiste On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, ann klefstad wrote: Can use acetone to do the transfers from xeroxes--so xerox images from newspaper etc and then transfer w/ acetone, a relatively benign solvent (much less deadly than some others). Also, since the advent of soy inks, the old solvent-transfer from newspaper thing doesn't work as well. This circumvents that. AK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
Re: FLUXLIST: alison knowles
this book from Granary arrived on my doorstep today --- Footnotes: collage journal 30 years Patricia -- it fits in so well to the idea of the time pieces! torn from 5x7 notebooks and taped onto a larger page, the tape itself now "highlighted" one way or the other as arranged, "an artistic artifice as well as an homage to Diter Rot and his SEP book 246 Little Clouds" everyother page has one of these notebook pages, with facing page/text of poetic notations, sometimes quite minimalist or sounding like mini scores for performance the pieces have the quick at-the-scene feel of Dave Baptiste Chirot's pages for the fluxlist timepiece, giving the sense that almost you are watching thoughts/impressions as they appear blur and disappear, ideas nearly wiggling as they become visual in pencilled scribbles, mind in action introduction by JRothenberg is good, ending with AK quote "It is important to remember that we are free to make art and poetry out of anything: a loaf of bread, some beans, a hasty jotting on the train." I ordered the Footnotes not having seen a page, just so hopeful that it'd touch my obsessions with calendars/days/collage/found poetry and I love it. I'm sorry I can't do a more appropriately articulate review - now I have to go spend some time with this book! NBB
Re: FLUXLIST: Tired of Fluxus?
Do you do anything on this list besides trash Ken Friedman? Sincerely. I'm curious. Or art for that matter? Are you still making art? Seems you have a lot of time on your hands, to be so dedicated to trashing Ken Friedman. I'm more fluxus than you or ken. My name is eryk salvaggio. I am sick of people who do nothing but bitch and moan all day. -e. Eric Andersen wrote: One of the problems with the Fluxlist is that it is so much based on mythology and ignorance. E.g Bertrand wrote: "The ridiculous way that Eric Andersen still say that Ken Friedman came to late to be a truly Fluxus artist." I never said that. What I did was to inform the list that none of the artists initially associated with Fluxus ever saw Ken Friedman as an artist. To us he seemed to be an agent and promoter. And that most of us would have preferred that he promoted something else. Also with some satire I pointed to the fact that he claims to have made Fluxus work i 1956, being 6 years old and 6 years before the first festivals in 1962. Be kind enough to quote me correctly. Eric Andersen
Re: FLUXLIST: alison knowles
NB, An erudite and visual review it is - well done!!! In fact, so compelling a review, I have just interrupted this post to whip out the well rubbed Visa card and order it. Add to your timepiece reference the fact that I have been collecting feet fotos for a feetsheet, and, voila - kismet - karma. Whatever. Also, I am admittedly an Alison Knowles groupie. On the timepiece reference, Count Vladimir de Mews Russian Blue has chosen Roger "Radio" Stevens as the next victim, and I shall begin manipulation on him this very weekend. I mean, embellishments to his visage (she said, chortling and rubbing her hands with glee). Bless, PK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this book from Granary arrived on my doorstep today --- Footnotes: collage journal 30 years Patricia -- it fits in so well to the idea of the time pieces! torn from 5x7 notebooks and taped onto a larger page, the tape itself now "highlighted" one way or the other as arranged, "an artistic artifice as well as an homage to Diter Rot and his SEP book 246 Little Clouds" everyother page has one of these notebook pages, with facing page/text of poetic notations, sometimes quite minimalist or sounding like mini scores for performance the pieces have the quick at-the-scene feel of Dave Baptiste Chirot's pages for the fluxlist timepiece, giving the sense that almost you are watching thoughts/impressions as they appear blur and disappear, ideas nearly wiggling as they become visual in pencilled scribbles, mind in action introduction by JRothenberg is good, ending with AK quote "It is important to remember that we are free to make art and poetry out of anything: a loaf of bread, some beans, a hasty jotting on the train." I ordered the Footnotes not having seen a page, just so hopeful that it'd touch my obsessions with calendars/days/collage/found poetry and I love it. I'm sorry I can't do a more appropriately articulate review - now I have to go spend some time with this book! NBB
Re: FLUXLIST: Tired?
good for Eryk Salvaggio right on! oh, and I was wondering if you have ever found yourself in an argument that goes a little something like this I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?... Eryk Salvaggio wrote: Do you do anything on this list besides trash Ken Friedman? Sincerely. I'm curious. Or art for that matter? Are you still making art? Seems you have a lot of time on your hands, to be so dedicated to trashing Ken Friedman. I'm more fluxus than you or ken. My name is eryk salvaggio. I am sick of people who do nothing but bitch and moan all day. -e. Eric Andersen wrote: One of the problems with the Fluxlist is that it is so much based on mythology and ignorance. E.g Bertrand wrote: "The ridiculous way that Eric Andersen still say that Ken Friedman came to late to be a truly Fluxus artist." I never said that. What I did was to inform the list that none of the artists initially associated with Fluxus ever saw Ken Friedman as an artist. To us he seemed to be an agent and promoter. And that most of us would have preferred that he promoted something else. Also with some satire I pointed to the fact that he claims to have made Fluxus work i 1956, being 6 years old and 6 years before the first festivals in 1962. Be kind enough to quote me correctly. Eric Andersen
Re: FLUXLIST: Tired of Fluxus?
Good point. What are you up to, artwise or fluxwise, Eric? Btw, what is your definition of fluxus? I'm collecting these (definitions). PK Eryk Salvaggio wrote: Do you do anything on this list besides trash Ken Friedman? Sincerely. I'm curious. Or art for that matter? Are you still making art? Seems you have a lot of time on your hands, to be so dedicated to trashing Ken Friedman. I'm more fluxus than you or ken. My name is eryk salvaggio. I am sick of people who do nothing but bitch and moan all day. -e. Eric Andersen wrote: One of the problems with the Fluxlist is that it is so much based on mythology and ignorance. E.g Bertrand wrote: "The ridiculous way that Eric Andersen still say that Ken Friedman came to late to be a truly Fluxus artist." I never said that. What I did was to inform the list that none of the artists initially associated with Fluxus ever saw Ken Friedman as an artist. To us he seemed to be an agent and promoter. And that most of us would have preferred that he promoted something else. Also with some satire I pointed to the fact that he claims to have made Fluxus work i 1956, being 6 years old and 6 years before the first festivals in 1962. Be kind enough to quote me correctly. Eric Andersen
Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
Interesting, I viewed a televised special on the recent Rauchenberg exhibit and commmitted to memory the fact that they taped him making monoprints on wet watercolor paper from an inkjet print. It's in the P.K. memory but I have yet to try it. I've done the acetone method, but I have developed an aversion to chemicals, so, if I use chemicals for any type of process, I use them outdoors. Re the timepiece work - Dave, I was disappointed that the texture of your pieces was lost in the scan process, but I like the different dimension it brings through the loss of dimension, if that makes any sense. This digital/internet business has no end of visual fascination. Btw, I will send them back to you, honest. Best, PK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
Re: FLUXLIST: Tired?
No, cuz I know what I am. haha. The zen version: I know you, but are you also me? -e. John Lorenzini wrote: good for Eryk Salvaggio right on! oh, and I was wondering if you have ever found yourself in an argument that goes a little something like this I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?...
Re: FLUXLIST: Tristram Shandy
shore begins at the end of my garden. Yes Bretany is great. Corse is nice too ;-) U populu corsu.. Is there some place in the US, which is called like Lands End (in Cornwall) or Finisterre ? To be honest, I have to confess that I'm not in the Finisterre, but in the very beginning of the Bretagne, in Saint Nazaire (where there is a huge U-Boots Blockhaus left by the german in WWII: maybe one of my favorite place I never saw this, but a lot of the coast is covered by WWII architecture, in the summer rented to poor people, rather cheap holyday houses. In the Institut Francais, it was called monstrous, well, another story, but I think I wrote allready about this at Plogoff etc.. Maybe surrealistic, Best, H. in France).
Re: FLUXLIST: timepeace
On the timepiece reference, Count Vladimir de Mews Russian Blue has chosen Roger "Radio" Stevens as the next victim, and I shall begin manipulation on him this very weekend. I mean, embellishments to his visage (she said, chortling and rubbing her hands with glee). ooh er
FLUXLIST: artistic community experiment
The art may not be that good, but the community web tech is cool, I think. http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2000/9/19/2458/13427 collective art (Media) Posted by luap on Tue Sep 19th, 2000 at 09:27:27 AM EST I've begun an experiment in my free time. I want to see if I can create an online artistic community with people posting their own works as well as commenting on others, sort of a method for writers/poets to get their word out and maybe even make money bypassing the publisher. Can it be done? Will the produced fiction/art be more/less real? I haven't really seen the 'slashdot' for literature out there yet. Instead of using one of the OS solutions out there for community type sites, I've decided to program my own (php4 w/MySQL backend.) I'll be honest with you, though, in that I'm an English/Journalism major, a poet at heart. I've been fascinated with the web since '95 or so, recently delving into scripting with PERL and php. (Creating art, but in another language, that of the computer.) So... I guess I'm just looking for feedback on the concept and execution of open source literature. Thoughts/Suggestions/Comments appreciated...
Re: FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand
Bertrand What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? What do you think of Dick Higgins' theater pieces? What about the "Danger Music" series- interesting? RA Bertrand et Claudia CLAVEZ wrote: Reed Altemus wrote How about: yes, I have several books by Something Else: Anthology of Concrete Poetry, Annotated Topography of Chance, FOEW, and Jefferson's Birthday/Postface. I have just finished reading all of them, anyone else read any of these and would like to start a discussion about any of them? Reed I own myself some others: Games at the Cedilla, a primer of Happenings, Four suits, and some of the one you have (FOEW, Jefferson's birthday). My edition of annotated topography of chance is a french one (I think it's from Lebeer Hossman ed., so it's belgian, like my "ample food"). And yes, I would like to start a discussion about any of them (and particularly Postface, who is fascinating me) Bertrand
FLUXLIST: Fluxus registry mentioned on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=449489528 Hey, I've got an idea. Let's sell FLUXLIST on eBay.
