Re: FLUXLIST: Events for Allen Bukoff
I'm going to crawl out from under my rock to give my take on the Allen quitting thing. Allen obviously felt that his dedication was going unappecriated by the artists he revered, and to maintain/pay for/be associated with an online compendium of these artists would indeed be a bitter pill to swallow, with the already bad taste that Fluxus appears to have left in his mouth. Still, I wish the sites were still up, since I found them invaluable and lively and informative. But online publishing is an ongoing, often thankless, effort. Unlike beling able to disavaow a book one wrote earlier in one's career, sites disappear if you don't keep them going. It sucks it came to this, but he is perfectly entited to let the whole affair go if the love is gone for him. I have a good hippy friend who corresponded with the Allman Brothers fan club. offering his services to them in whatever they needed, eventually uprooting and moving to Macon, GA just to be more involved. He helped promote concerts, lick envelopes, etc etc, happily being involved in something he loved until one day, one of the band members came through the fan club headquartes and proceeded to make fun of the hippy pants he was wearing, and make fun of him in general, souring him on the whole deal. It was devistating to him that people who he spent a lot of his free time devoted to would callously disregard him like that, enough to make him wahnt nothing to do with the band and their music. So, though this is not the exact same situation, I can see how Allen felt. Granted, the artists are under no obligation to history or the fans, but basically the flowers in your garden you ignore, tend to shrivel up. Alex V. Cook From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have to say that the more I think about it all I really feel that Allen Bukoff has done by withdraw his Fluxus websites is penalise members of Fluxlist and students interested in Fluxus. Those Fluxus artists he addresses more than likely don't care one way or the other whether fluxus.org or fluxlist exists...certainly they've never taken part so the only people that have taken part in collaborative Fluxus works on the web now get to see their work disappear (e.g Shoe Days etc.). I can appreciate Allen's point of view but don't really feel that anything has been achieved by closing the websites. As to the future of Fluxlist - I think it's as healthy as ever, interestingly the number of members is around the same as it was 5 years ago. The list will still provide the virtual forum it always has done. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: dub in dub by Prince Alex the Dub Organizer
spinalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal lethal hush trouble (ushushushushushushushushush ker-ACK dink-dinck) stickingkingkingking fax cursor lethalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal double loather voter cab ab ab ab ababab AB AB AB ker-ACK dink-dinck (drop out) ab ab ab ab ab ABB mesh mesh meshesheshesheshesheshesheshesh edge mesh fort leatherr ker-ACK dink-dinck minute worldly hush troubleblebleblebleblebleblebleblebleble mosh luddite OSHOSHOSHOSHoshoshoshoshosh clubbishishishishishishish club ker-ACK dink-dinck-inkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkinkink (fade) Alex V. Cook (225) 205-5662 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Revich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: dub, the remix Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:43:31 -0500 dub, remixed dub spinal hat fort leather fox liquor lap double loather ford hut ruby dredge metal worserlegal sport strapping fresh rubbish diction sticking fax spot knot copy spinning hash edge mesh trash cursor lethal minute worldly sword voter cab hedge hush trouble tax stopping clubbish club mosh luddite AllanR dub, remixed; remixed spinal lethal hush trouble sticking fax cursor lethal double loather voter cab edge mesh fort leather minute worldly hush trouble mosh luddite clubbish club AllanR, Allan Revich - Original Message - From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: dub dub dub minute sticking fax cab spinal lap double loather ford hut ruby dredge metal worser hash edge legal fresh rubbish stopping spot mosh luddite knot copy clubbish mesh sport strapping trash cursor lethal hedge hush worldly sword voter trouble hat fort leather tax diction spinning club fox liquor Jim Leftwich John M. Bennett __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-3029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.johnmbennett.net ___
FLUXLIST: fluxlister finds fame on FARK.com
My team at work made it into one of Fark's photoshop contests the other day http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=566691 I'm the one on the left in the original picture Alex NP: Pere Ubu - Dub Housing _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
FLUXLIST: fluxbox 2
I apologize in advance for my lameness is it too late to send in my contribution to flux box 2? 50 copies to what address again? and how much for postage? Yours lame, Alex _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: FLUXLIST: object and location
robot, Tokyo Alex NP: Jim O'Rourke - I am happy, and I'm singing and a 1,2,3,4 _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2
y'know I thought about that myself. I usually have a couple of them sitting around. Alex NP: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:35:38 -0400 what about a huggies (unscented) 80 wipes box? ...p _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: FLUXLIST: request
F11 and F11 F11 and F11 F11 and F11 F11 and F11 Alex, using loaded dice NP: The Clean - Billy Two - Original Message - From: alan bowman Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: request the freeformfreakout organisation 'desperately scrabbling about for ideas for the fluxlist box II project division' kindly request that anyone interested sends by return e-mail, the following: 1.a letter between A G (upper case) 2.the number 1 or 2 3.a number between 1 and 4 e.g.B, 2, 3 and 1.a letter between a g (lower case) 2.the number 1 or 2 3.a number between 1 and 4 e.g.a,1,1 the above processes may be repeated up to 4 times each. the resulting e-mails, on recieving, will be translated into the basis for a sound piece for the fluxlist box project. those people either not on fluxlist or not participating in the project, but who would still like to here the piece they contributed to, just let us know! erm, ooh that's far too much concentrating for one morning, is it coffee time yet? yours Anna Wombal FFFO dsafiftfbIIp div. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
then there's always ziploc freezer bags. you can get 50 for about $5, Holds a gallon of art with no spills and you can affix a sticker lable to the outside. in fact it seems rather fluxus to make our second box a plastic bag. Alex NP: Cat Power - Moon Pix From: cecil touchon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:42:19 -0800 Fluxlist in tomatillo crates, i like it. . . . yes that's a cool idea too: agriflux. Freshdot.com Web Hosting Service Host 10 domains on one account for 12.95mo (USD) Freshdot Domain Name Registrations transfers $7.75 for .com, .net and .org - 8.75 for new .biz and .info http://web-hosting.freshdot.com/ Cecil Touchon: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Owen Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico? cecil Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and costs of such a venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there be some wooden boxes made for some other use that we can creatively reuse? Fluxlist in tomatillo crates, i like it. . . . Owen _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: FLUXLIST: printing question
I'll try the monotype. However my eunichs won't go anywhere near the press.understandable issues with things that can pinch things off and all Alex NP: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] you need to build a mat frame that is level with your stamp and make it bigger than your paper-its generally faster and cleaner to use a rubber brayer-softer rubber is probably better than harder--this is true with brayers only-. If you are interested in a clean way to print (monotype) I can give you tips on a simple fun method I invented (stole and changed) take a small piece of plexiglass - scuff it up with sandpaper - paint on it with watercolor and aquapasto (winsornewton makes it in a tube) slap a piece of paper on it-rub with wooden spoon although a beautiful 3 foot press with naked eunichs fanning you is better. and rubrubrub love madawg painter of dark _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
FLUXLIST: printing question
I know a lot of you here are printmakers and rubber stamp artists, so I pose this. I made my first block print from one of those speedball easy cut slabs of eraser material. I like the print but I haven't quite got the printing process down, it comes out really messy. I ink up the print using a brush and black block printing ink and try to place it centered face down on the paper. the transfer works, but I end up with a bunch of smudges around it. How do you get away from this? do you make a sort of mat frame around the printing area with another sheet. the stamp pad is too flimy to put the paper on top an d apply pressure with the rollers. My print comes out all distorted. Any advice would be appreciated. Alex NP: _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: printing question
thanks! that makes perfect sense. I'll give it a shot and post results once I get it done. Alex NP: linton kwesi johnson - Reality Poem - Forces of Nature From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Alex, Have never used speedball but have made a lot of rubber stamp print in the past. What I recommend as with most block printing is that you mount your rubber stamp onto a piece of plywood (using a non-destructive glue) that is thick enough to handle so that you can ink up your block then stamp with it easily applying a gentle even pressure with your hands alone. Unless I've misunderstood you're placing a thin inked block of rubber on paper to make your print then trying to take it off again without smudges. Other tips:.don't use a brush to ink the block, the ink will be uneven, use a brayer: spread your ink evenly on a sheet of glass then roll over the ink with the brayer then roll the ink onto your stamp and all should be well. I used to make lots of rubber stamps but wound it down a little bit over the last couple of yearsif you want to see one of my old carvings ( 1995, I think) look at http://pages.map.com/rclark/tabloid_trash/carvgal3.htm that was in the original print version of tabloid trash which Rusty scanned on to the web some years ago. If you get into Eraser Carving I recommend Mick Mather's zine Eraser Carver's Quarterly unfortunately I don't have Mick's address to hand but I'm sure someone on the list will have it. cheers, Sol. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: FLUXLIST: Chess with Badger
Here's my move black robot to sandwich 4 Alex, never learned to play chess NP: From: Roger STEVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Chess with Badger Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:17:40 - nice move queen scratch arm to king's flea four _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: Chess with Badger
Cool! we can be partners, like in bridge (which I never learned to play either) Yellow dog to elevator! King me! Alex NP: From: Carol Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] knight's darkened to bishops main squeeze. i never learned to play either. bests, carol ;) Alex Cook wrote: Here's my move black robot to sandwich 4 Alex, never learned to play chess NP: From: Roger STEVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Chess with Badger Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:17:40 - nice move queen scratch arm to king's flea four _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: I wish Bush was a tree event
Platform Announcement Event Ask an underling what their platform is, and immediately present it as your own. Repeat until you run out of underlings. Alex V. Cook, 2002 Alex, Dressed as a Hawaiian Fire God for Halloween NP: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] announcing a new fluxus event please submit ideas now _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
FLUXLIST: Incredible stuff I (he) made
Its not fluxus per se, but it is inspiring http://www.cockeyed.com/incredible/incredible.html Alex NP: Sebadoh - Harmacy _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
FLUXLIST: LiveJournal invite
Yo, I started a live Journal out there, so if anyone would like to sign on and be my friend, post me off list or just comment on one of the things on my journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/cookalexv Alex NP: _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: using ebay as a gallery
I am in the process of trying sell my art on eBay, since I don't have a gallery representing me, and don't really have the desire, time, or energy to scout one out and do the necessary schmoozing. Has anyone here had experience selling their work that way? The work I would be selling is mostly paintings, but possibly some conceptaul/multiple kind of stuff. My outdated art website is, in case anyone is interested http://alexvcook.homestead.com Thanks, Alex NP: Radiohead - Amnesiac - Life in a Glass House _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Inspiration
Yes. My advice is do something (non-art) new to get your juices flowing. I get artist head when I'm in a slump where I feel guity or mad taht I'm not making art, and then channel my ennergies into that instead of, uh, making some art. Doing something else entirely can light the spark. Go bowling, or to the track or something. do something out of character. I've had a hard time making any art ever since Maya was born (13 months) At first it was time restraints and then inertia took over. but right now, I am shopping around for scooters and I think I'm going to get a Honda Metropolitan (any scooter people here who can advise me on matters, plese reply off-list) and the resulting giddiness is really recharging me. Don't force it, you turn art into a chore then Alex From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have, in recent weeks/months felt that artistic inspiration has departed from my head...don't seem to do much at all...has anyone got any exercises/tips for what they do to re-inspire themselves? cheers, Sol. Alex NP: _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: forgotten NP
Nice work, if you can get it, I suppose. NP: Jackie-O Motherf*cker - somewhat misleading band name for some really delightful pastoral acoustic psyche rambling music. Makes one want to get out rollerblades and a walkman and make a day of it Alex Sol Nte wrote: I just read in some essay the bit, masturbation, the vice of the self-employed . . .. Although Perhaps the Hand of Leisure is doing something else, hey NP The Blackened Air, Nina Nastasia Cheerily, the SelfEmployed AK _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: FLUXLIST:Update 6/4/02
I'm giving up the carillon, it seems a no-bell deed. Meryl wrote: I'm taking up neon, it seems a noble gas. Sol wrote: I'm taking up suffering, it seems a noble truth. Sez me: I'm taking up peace, it seems a Nobel Prize. Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: untitled
I found that I often give my paintings flowery titles I really like at the time, and embarassed of after, so I usually call them The little yellow one or The big new one I've considered just titling new works things like The big blue one but that seems like I'm trying to be ironic. Besides, aren't Friends episodes title that same way? Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: untitled Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:38:54 EDT I was just discussing this with a friend the other day. One, I think that your answer carol is one part. Untitled gives the viewer no preconcieved framework from which to view the piece. Also, sometimes the artist is too close to the work emotionally and doesn't want to reveal what they were feeling, or perhaps aren't sure what they are feeling so aren't sure how to express it in words. What I hate is when it seems lazy. Like the artist just didn't feel like coming up with something. That signifies that they don't care enough. Benjamin _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST.SWIKI
I would tend to agree. I've been involved in a number of painting projects like this, and we ended up generally obliterating each other's work. I got accused of colonizing other's work, to which I replied taht I'd rather colonization that makes someone happy rather than a compromise that pleases no-one. It does however work for music. I think because coming up with/ realizing a piece of music is usually a more collaborative activity unlike painting or writing. but I'm still for it, and if I ever get any time, I'll jump in and offer my contributions. Alex NP: Johnny Cash/June Carter Cash/Statler Brothers - Louisiana Hayride Archives - It ain't me, baby. Brilliant version. From: Don Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST.SWIKI Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:53:19 -0400 I haven't had time to look at the swiki pages but in principle I think having members edit one another's work will not work out in the long run. In the late 1970's or early 80's a poet friend of mine invited me and some of my students to paint a large mural on the side of his building. I opted for each of us taking a section. (There were four of us) No, they wanted to mix work and paint all over. We ended up editing each others work all day long and as a result nothing satisfied any one of us. Crispin, Jason and I have been doing similar work this year but again, these do not end up as satisfying to me becuase we overpaint or overdraw each other's work. -Don _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: FLUXLIST: Scanners
I think that sounds brilliant. Didn't Beuys do some kind of documented trip to Iceland? I have that We Go This Way book packed away somewhere, and I seem to remember something about Iceland in it. You could do it as a reaction to that, replacing teaching with boxing as the means to make a social sculpture. Female boxers are the coolest bad-asses going, BTW. Good luck on your training. np: Pixies - Come on Pilgrim - 06 - Holiday Song y'know EP's are the way to go. Bands seem to find a lot freedom in them, a couple of catchy trcks, a couple of out-there experiments that they wouldn't release on a proper album, cover tunes etc. Pavement in particular has prefected the fine art of making an EP. From: ann klefstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Scanners Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:40:30 -0700 Sol Nte wrote: well, that's it for me, I'm off to do some kung fu fighting http://www.uncarved.demon.co.uk/mp3/kungfu.mp3 Dear Fluxabbies, So I've been going to the fights lately, a new boxing gym in town right near where my dad used to box, and finding that I love it. Folding chairs around a ring on the 3rd floor of an old warehouse. Really adorable ring-card girls. Both men and women serious boxers. I like it because, being an artist and a critic, I get sick of judgment, mine, other peoples', carping, etc. In boxing there's no arguments. You win or you lose depending upon a couple of real clear parameters that you can't fake or charm or imply. You just have to do it. So that's nice. So I hear that Horton, the promoter here, wants to put together a team of boxers to go to Iceland, where boxing is illegal, and put on exhibition matches there sort of in aid of the beleagered Icelandic boxing world (because yes there are boxers in Iceland) which feels like it needs liberation. So I'm wondering if a document of my training, boxing, and trip to iceland would be a good Fluxproject? I'm actually not in bad shape--I can still do my 200 situps and my 30 pushups, and run a few miles--and so it isn't too much of a stretch. I'd probably get creamed though because I'm small and so my reach isn't great. What do you think? Is the absurdity of the project ample reward for a few shots to the head? AK By the way, re an earlier project proposal, I've recently been asked to join VACUM, the Visual Art Critics Union of Minnesota (a new group) and will try to persuade them to start a softball team, the Pariahs. So maybe that's how I can get the TShirts up and paid for. We'll see. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: FLUXLIST: Scanners
That's right! who was against though? Like a musuem curator, wasn't it? What art folk would you like to see in a boxing match, and who would win? Like Damien Hirst vs. Martin Creed. Martin would come on strong, being leaner and on more stable footing, but Hirst ultimately wins (crowd favorite, plus the match was fixed) Alex, closet DH fan From: St.Auby Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Scanners Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:35:04 +0200 (Central Europe Daylight Time) H, On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Alex Cook wrote: (...) reaction to that, replacing teaching with boxing as the means to make a social sculpture. Beuys fought a Boxing Match for Direct Democracy. H, a _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: np?
np = now playing Alex np: Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St - Tumbling Dice From: ch 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: np? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:33:18 + what's np? but I'm listening to nathaniel merriweather presents: lovage req: sketch book, various kraftwerk albums, autobahn mainly, beta band, aphex and 'the cosmic forces of mu'... pete ps if anyone has not been to the art pound shop and would like some art for a quid. follow the url... http://www.spacetowns.com/ch2/poundshop _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
FLUXLIST: np
just to revive the NP thing NP: Massive attack vs. Mad Professor - No Protetction - Trinity Dub (Three) Sol: I know you like the dub. you ever heard this? I prefer the old skule dub, but this is fun listen _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
FLUXLIST: Fluxus Nietchze event
Fluxus Nietzsche Event That which does not kill us makes us Fluxus Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorermsncom/intlasp;
FLUXLIST: Fluxus Sartre Event
Fluxus Sartre Event Fluxus is other people Alex _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photosmsncom/support/worldwideaspx
Re: FLUXLIST: Pop quiz...
I'd opt out on both and wait until the stop/start time package is available. Alex From: aliceklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Pop quiz... Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:02:13 -0800 (PST) invisible, man. definitely invisible. then i'd hop on the back of one of you all who could fly --- Pedro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you rather be invisible or able to fly? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Hooray for Captain Spalding
I'm in. but my address is about to change in two weeks, so I'll send that when I get it. Is there a deadline on this? Alex From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Hooray for Captain Spalding Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:48:41 - the idea of participants sending a cover really appeals to me. about the size: no larger than 2.5x4 inches or credit card size which is slightly smaller: 2 1/8 x 3 3/8 inches the idea being that the book would fit in one's pocket and mail art could be sent from wherever you are or...it would be easy to find fluxfriends when traveling ie. your trip to taos in 2000. probably be a good idea to include email address in the book. Sounds great Carol. The project's really coming on. cheers, Sol. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: NPs
dunno, Can, Amon Duuland Barry White all in tha same day. I say that's 3 out of the four essential foodgroups are you on Fallnet by any chance? Alex NP: Faust - IV - 04 - Just a Second (Starts Like That!) From: Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: NPs Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:37:13 -0800 (PST) Alex Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that is the coolest NP: I've seen yet Alex NP: The Fall - He Pep! Now, wait a minute, Alex... You're listening to the greatest rock band of all time - with two dozen albums out - and you're saying that MY np is the coolest. N way... np: Can: All Gates Open - Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctionsfor all of your holiday gifts! _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST:true life advent/confession
true life confession #1.1 I have too, and having just emailed NBBurr offlist for something else, I felt compelled to share my admission of said desire in the spirit of solidarity Alex NP: some Scottish movie on Sundance Channel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] true life confession #1 i've been wanting to write one of these true-life-adventures since the very first one was written np: joan la barbara /singing through / cage _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: URL for fffo new york red wine incident!!!!!!!!!
clever as usual, Alan. FFFO activities seems to be the real descendants of the OG Fluxus stuff. did FFFO's name come from the Red Krayola tracks of the same name? Alex NP: Yo La Tengo - Pablo and Andrea From: alan bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: URL for fffo new york red wine incident! Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:56:56 +0100 dear all, erm, pressed send by mistake here is the information again (with URL!) dear all, the freeformfreakoutorganisation is somewhat bemused to present the freeformfreakout organisation new york red wine incident http://digilander.iol.it/freeformfreakoutorg/newyork/ http://digilander.iol.it/freeformfreakoutorg/newyork/ http://digilander.iol.it/freeformfreakoutorg/newyork/ http://digilander.iol.it/freeformfreakoutorg/newyork/ this site contains a collection of scribbles and texts which go some way to showing the effect of 3 bottles of red wine and half a bottle of prosecco on the FFFO. They were produced in the last of George Maciunas' Fluxhouses, which, obviously didn't do anything to improve things! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Dirty Three, Darger
the file of Low + Dirthy Three is available at http://www.epitonic.com/artists/lowanddirtythree.html if'n you like Dirty Three also check out the Bonnie Prince Billy and Marquis de Tren album Get on Jolly which I believe is Will Oldham and Dirty THree Alex NP: Johnny Cash - Oh, Bury Me Not From: Jennifer Brunetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Dirty Three, Darger Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:03:55 -0800 on 11/14/01 10:31 PM, ann klefstad at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Cook wrote: You mean the band Low? They recently did a record with The Dirty Three that I highly reccommend The Dirty Three is one of my favorite bands! Warren (the violinist) and I were emailing each other for a while, he's very interesting and also very much into Henry Darger. I hear that the new folk museum in NYC is going to feature a huge Darger exhibit, and I personally find that very exciting. Jennifer _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: now playing
You mean the band Low? They recently did a record with The Dirty Three that I highly reccommend Alex NP: Los Lobos - Turn Around, but changing to the Dirty Three From: ann klefstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: now playing Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:21:32 -0800 And a plug: it is a cd, it is wierdly physiologically active sound/music that has a very interesting and almost indistinguishable relationship with something like lyricism, it is eponymous (called if thousands by if thousands eg) and is available if you write to Aaron Molina at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ann klefstad wrote: So I'll note my favorite band from a shockingly productive little city, home of Low: NP: If Thousands AK Sol Nte wrote: Hi Alex, You wrote: Speaking of CD's - on another list I'm on, everyone is adding a Now Playing listing to their posts like that below and I think that would be a cool thing to do here. I've discovered some really intersting music that So I'm posting purely to start this off and make sure that we include net radio. BTW - How's Fatherhood :-) cheers, Sol NP: http://live.basic.ch/ ak340set - latest archive _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: [Fwd: Neil Innes RECOLLECTIONS 3 Now Available]
Speaking of CD's - on another list I'm on, everyone is adding a Now Playing listing to their posts like that below and I think that would be a cool thing to do here. I've discovered some really intersting music that way. Alex NP: Motorhead - Eat the Rich From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fluxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: [Fwd: Neil Innes RECOLLECTIONS 3 Now Available] Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:56:18 -0800 message3.txt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Henry Flynt Publication Party at Emily Harvey Gallery tomorrow
What is his music like? I saw a cd of his used the other day and was tempted. Thanks, Alex From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Henry Flynt Publication Party at Emily Harvey Gallery tomorrow Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:49:52 -0500 Publication Party Henry Flynt Musical recordings released New American Ethnic Music Vol. 1 (Recorded) Graduation and Other New Country and Blues Music (Ampersand) forthcoming C Tune (Locust Music) Henry Flynt will demonstrate club dances to his pieces. 4 pm Sunday, November 4, 2001 Emily Harvey Gallery 537 Broadway, #2 New York, NY 212-925-765 henryflynt.org recorded.com ampersound.com locustmusic.com see the article on Henry Flynt by Marcus Boon in The Wire, October 2001 Henry Flynt. The radical avant garde hillbilly fusion of this American pioneer has gone unheard for 20 years. Now two CDs finally make it public. http://www.thewire.co.uk/ [why isn't alan bowman posting this stuff?] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
FLUXLIST: Arte Povera vs. Fluxus
Sure! I've always felt they walked similar paths except that Fluxus was driven in more of a conceptual-based anti-art tack and AP was more a deconstruction of classical art processses, but still concerned with being art AP gives me a really good buzz when I look at it. I get more of an undefineable That's it! kind of feeling from a lot of that work, esp Kounellis, Pistoletto(sp? the guy who uses lots of mirrors), than I do from a lot of Fluxus work. But that may also be the difference. I like the process in fluxus, and the product in AP. I've never seen any of it in the flesh, except for some Luciano Fontana (again sp? the punctured canvas guy) who I don't actually care for. Like Yves Klien without the charisma. Finally, something about art, or art, or whatever it is! Alex From: ann klefstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone else want to discuss Fluxus's differences from concurrent artmaking such as Arte Povera? To me this would be an interesting thread. AK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
FLUXLIST: Fwd: YES, the banned song list is on there
A collection of links to pages discussing the various rumors to come out of the September 11 terrorist attack on the United States of America. http://www.snopes2.com/info/rumors.htm if you've never been to snopes before -- red means false, green true, yellow undetermined, white suspicious origin. __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: What's Flux Got To Do Got To Do Wid It?
Fluxus Fluxlist Retro-definition Piece, by Alex V. Cook, 2001 Start yet another discussion on Fluxlist about what Fluxlist is about. The performance of this piece makes the discussion a Fluxus event, and the list a Fluxus Arena. For any concern about whether this is truly Fluxus or not, consult George Macunias. F. F. R-D. P. Addendum, by Alex V. Cook, 2001 Blame Sol Nte for the state of the list. (this seems to be a common by-product of the performance of the above, so it seems to me to be a Fluxus move to call something that will most likely happen anyway a Flusus event. For any concern about whether this is truly Fluxus or not, consult George Macunias. From: jesse glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: What's Flux Got To Do Got To Do Wid It? Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 03:01:06 -0700 What's Flux but a second-hand hobby-hoorsuh! Sol, honestly, change the name of this list to something else like Positive Friendship Club. I'm not against any of the three words at the end of the previous sentence. Mix 'em around in any permutational order and I'm still happy, but this is the FLUX LIST, and I for one hopped on because of the subject. I know you were one of the list owners for awhile, and it sounds like you're a great fellow, but I see absolutely nothing of what you said in your last postings in the definitions section of the FAQ for this group. Of course, those parameters are so loosely defined that one could insert things like THIS IS A POSITIVE FRIENDSHIP CLUB THAT ONLY TANGENTIALLY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH FLUX. COME HERE TO PAL AROUND WITH YOUR PARDS. And Why the Hell Not? But it seems to me that lots of the pal stuff--and good goings--and hi y'all things--could be easily performed back-channel, which would actually give this list the appearance of focus. But of course, it would also cut down on most of the postings, I think. By the way, thanks for the C.B. info. everyone and the chance to say this. I love you all! Just my opinion here. But I suppose this list is a victim of Flux, anyway, though, because of the FLUX Art=Life thing, so if I called being Palsy With My Friends On This List, Art, well then, according to Flux it is. And consequently it is Flux Art. So that means that anything we post here is ok. ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING!!! As long as we call it FLUX. Is that fair, Sol? So Sol, you are doing POSITIVE FRIENDSHIP ART! Is that right? But who cares besides that fellow who bugged John Bennett (the Waka-Tooka Guy) and is still trapped in Electronic Get Me OUtta HERE! Hell. It's a friendly, friendly world! Jesse About Jesse Glass. How to order his books. http://www.letterwriter.net/html/jesse-glass.html _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Newton and Leibnitz
dunno about periodicals, but the Out of Actions catalog is a good survey of PA. Chris Burden is more of a sculptor from what I've seen in art magazines. Alex From: jesse glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Newton and Leibnitz Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:59:07 -0700 Discovered calculus at about the same time. We're working on parallel long-term projects just like them, pen-pal. But why so grim? That question about Perfromance Art magazines was actually open to this list of Fluxsavants. Really, could anyone out there direct me to some kick-ass P.A. publications? I know TDR does the stuff, but I mean the real stuff. What was that fellow's name? Eric Burden? No, no, he was a singer/actor. Chris Burden! That's right, I think. Whatever happened to? Heck, he's probably head of some Arts Program someplace! Jesse About Jesse Glass. How to order his books. http://www.letterwriter.net/html/jesse-glass.html _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
John - this new techno-narrative poem style is a departure from your usual stuff, but a vein worth mining nonetheless :-) Alex, on\words in/jest From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:13:38 +0200 This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the destination computer was not reachable within the allowed queue period. The amount of time a message is queued before it is returned depends on local configura- tion parameters. Most likely there is a network problem that prevented delivery, but it is also possible that the computer is turned off, or does not have a mail system running right now. The queue containing messages destined for 10.194.66.39 was expired by the Postmaster of smtp2.movistar.com. The following recipients did not receive your message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp2.movistar.com Received-From-MTA:dns; web1.movistar.com (194.224.100.138) Arrival-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:58:06 +0200 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from web1.movistar.com ([194.224.100.138]) by smtp2.movistar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GGFRWU03.6OS for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:58:06 +0200 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mai036s5.osu.edu (mai036s5.lib.ohio-state.edu [128.146.9.135]) by mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23089 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:55:01 -0400 From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Sobaco = armpit In-Reply-To: 013801c10ba6$a86ee0c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Warning: scribble.com: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-URL: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST SCUSincronizacion: automatica SCUReceive: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
John - this new techno-narrative poem style is a departure from your usual stuff, but a vein worth mining nonetheless :-) Alex From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:13:38 +0200 This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the destination computer was not reachable within the allowed queue period. The amount of time a message is queued before it is returned depends on local configura- tion parameters. Most likely there is a network problem that prevented delivery, but it is also possible that the computer is turned off, or does not have a mail system running right now. The queue containing messages destined for 10.194.66.39 was expired by the Postmaster of smtp2.movistar.com. The following recipients did not receive your message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp2.movistar.com Received-From-MTA:dns; web1.movistar.com (194.224.100.138) Arrival-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:58:06 +0200 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from web1.movistar.com ([194.224.100.138]) by smtp2.movistar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GGFRWU03.6OS for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:58:06 +0200 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mai036s5.osu.edu (mai036s5.lib.ohio-state.edu [128.146.9.135]) by mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23089 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:55:01 -0400 From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Sobaco = armpit In-Reply-To: 013801c10ba6$a86ee0c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Warning: scribble.com: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-URL: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST SCUSincronizacion: automatica SCUReceive: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus/Fluxlist
From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I would like people to consider the following questions: 1) What is the goal of Fluxlist? Hash! I hope its not to become a list talking about lists, particularly talking about this one. That is always a downward spiral in my opinion. (Though I guess it could be viewed as Fluxus activity, like the Buddha watching the live video of himself. When this piece was on display at the Nelson Atkins museum recently, a lot of kids thoouight it was really funny and would poke their heads around it so they would appear on camera, which seems to be the case around here lately as well) 2) What relationship does Fluxlist have to Fluxus? inspired originally by Fluxus people and then evolved and moved on. I like to think of it as a continuation or expansion of what fluxus was, loosely defined as it was/is, but then how do you expand on something with out a definition. Make a bigger blue peanut? I'd like to see more projects being thrown around and discussed. For example the FFFO stuff and the Fluxlist Box were/are some of the best things about this list. The arguments about/instances of censorship and the personal attacks of peoples sig files or poetry styles is tiresome. anyway I've violated my first rule by talking about talking about lists (making it momentaryly a Meta-Meta-List) so I'll hush now Hush! Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: ?
I'd say that it has been adulterated and compromised by needing to call it pure. Alex From: Arturas Bumsteinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: ? Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:03:37 +0200 Dear Fluxlist, What will you say if I'll tell you that Fluxus is the pure form? arturas _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: FluxFortune
on the 23rd. opportunity is elusive, and you should never put it off when its in your grasp. which is some fortune cookie wisdom itself. Alex From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: FluxFortune Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:57:47 +0100 Hi all, Over a late lunch at our little Fluxlist get together on Saturday Joe Decie gave us all fortune cookies. I saved mine to open later at a significant date. Of course I had no significant date in mind so needed suggestions. Jill suggested sometime in 2003 since I'd been mentioning how the number 23 often pops up in mysterious circumstances, in fact Saturday was the 23rd June. I thought I'd offer the list the chance to send in their thought. So, any suggestions...I want to know exactly when I should open the cookie and why. cheers, Sol. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: It's a girl! (fwd)
Thanks, everyone, for your kind words, and thanks for complimenting us on the name choice. We were a little hesitant on it. I created a site to share pictures with my friends and family, and since fluxlist is part of that extended family (I talk to you guys more than my close relatives), here it is http://mayajensencook.homestead.com the pics from the hospital didn't come out very well, so there's only one out there until we get better ones. Thanks, Alex From: St.Auby Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] High! Alex V. Cook and Jerri Jensen are proud to announce the birth of their first child, Maya Jensen Cook, on Friday, May 25 at 8:31 What a flux! Congratulations! Hugh! aa _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Questions
I think anti-art is actually art in linguistic sheeps clothing. the only time it ever comes up is when an artist, or someone being called an artist, feels he/she has to clarify that their art is not Art but anti-art. and that only comes up in art contexts. You don't have to define art as Anti-plumbing, or anti-vegetation or anything like that. Personally, I think Duchamp, the OG anti-artist, made his anti-art statements just to cause trouble, much like he did with a lot of his other art. Like saying he was giving up art for chess when actually he never gave up art. To me that was just part of his art, watching people twist around trying to define his work. just my opinion, or anti-opinion, Alex From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is anti-art? At what point does anti-art become art? -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: pachyderms
Suggestion for CD packaging: give a roomful of endangered monkeys typewriters and in time, they will come up with liner notes. Alex From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Elephant Orchestra's Mission: Saving the Species _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: pachyderms
anyone here remember the old New Wave Theatre show that could be seen on Night Flight, a early cable music show on the then fledgling USA Netowrk in th 80's? I'm trying to identify a band that I remember seeing on there and can't remember their name. Night Flight was a great show of music and art. They once ran a set of Nam June Paik's videos, I remember seeing the I'm sticking my penis in the vagina of a whale one when I was an impressionable 12-13 year old. Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: wanna see a ridiculous review of a beuys show?
From: Carol Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW i still don't know where josh ronsen's essay goes from here. and i enjoyed your piece very much, afriend wanted to know where you can get the little box. bests, carol :) the box came from this everything's-99-cents store called Zakka that I used to frequent in Redmond, WA, where I lived for a while. I haven't been able to find any more since moving away from there. I would guess if no-one is piping in to be next on the list for Josh's letter, it should go back to Josh. cheers, (and no offence was taken) Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: wanna see a ridiculous review of a beuys show?
"Nor was his cockeyed utopianism unprecedented (Beuys was a prominent member of the Green Party)..." didn't he kinda help found the Green Party? I've never been totally clear about this, but I though his student party later went through some transmogrification into the modern Green Party. anyway, hearing an art critic rattle on about how conceptual art is not art is as old-hat and tiresome as a music critic decrying that rap music isn't music. Why can't the critic say they found it impentetrable, or boring, instead of needing to invalidate it? Those are perfectly valid natural recations to Beuys' work. Dismissal the lazy way out of doing crtisim. Alex From: Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "¬·`" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: wanna see a ridiculous review of a beuys show? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:18:34 -0800 (PST) http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2001-03-15/arts.html comments, please? r -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: The Big Topics
I'm working on a series of multiples called "The Big Topics" and trying to come up with what they are. What are your suggestions? I'm looking for succinct one-word big topics like: LOVE, DEATH, LIFE, WAR please help. something will go out to those who send me ones I end up using. Thanks, Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: stampyourface/StampyOurFace
Ahhh... but what kind of stressball? The modern office warrior is judged by the quality and ingenuiety of ones stress releaving toys, and the agility with which one plays with them. My personal favorite is a blue and white baseball I picked up at a software convention, the most elaborate being a set of chinese meditation balls that some now defunct dot-com was giving away at the same conf. maybe a fluxlist branded squeezy ball is in order, since I imagine a lot of us conduct our fluxlist converstations while on the clock. Alex, feeling chatty today From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: stampyourface/StampyOurFace Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:09:22 - Alex wrote: There is actually a Badtz-Maru sitting on top of my computer, but the other techie folk wrongly assume its some variant on the Linux penguin. Tux? In my office I have a laptop Buddha (plastic model of Buddha in the Lotus position with a laptop on his knees, that squeaks when pressed) and a dayglo pink light-up buddha on top of my monitor. At home I have a small Um Jammer Lammy sitting on my monitor plus one of Keith Bates "Ray Johnson" tickets - in case you're curious. BTW - What's the FreeBSD devil called? Anyone? cheers, Sol. ( sitting in his office, feeling ill, clockwatching for 5 and trying not to fall asleep) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: epact: scientific instruments from medieval europe
Just found this site. There are a plethora of great images here for collages and whatnot. http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/epact/ Chatty Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: stampyourface
I know I've seen the machines that make hello Kitty stickers with your image on them in Sanrio (Hello Kitty, Inc.) stores in various malls around the country. Alex, prefers Badtz-Maru over Hello Kitty, and is man enough to admit that he has an informed opinion on the matter From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: stampyourface Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:46:40 - Hi all, PK wrote: If you see one of these "stamp club" machines in your area, go for it. For $5 u.s. it can produce a self-inking rubber stamp of your face (or whatever) in postage stamp format within 5 minutes. Several different colors of ink. It can even incorporate up to 7 letters of text; i.e., fluxus. We found one in Japantown in San Francisco and used props (hats, flowers, masks) - had great fun and got some nifty stamps. I can verify the fun obtained from these machines. There was one in the photographer's gallery in London a couple of years ago as part of a special exhibit so we got a couple of stamps done. They're not that high-quality but pretty cool from a machine. I was hoping to see some of these machines in Tokyo when I was there at Christmas but I didn't see any despite our trawling many many arcades in the hope of finding one...we did however find various sticker machines including a Hello Kitty one and one which put your picture next to a picture of the giant buddha at Kamakura, also we found another machine that made trading cards with your image on them...of course all the instructions for these machines were in Japanese so it was a case of trial and error to get the background/photos we wanted..a lot of fun though. PK are there a lot of these machines in your part of the US or only in Japantown and other venues like that? The related "Print Club" sticker machines like NeoPrint etc. are in a lot of places in England. cheers, Sol. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: re:boxes
What is the URL for the site about out Fluxlist Box No. 1 ? Thanks, Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: 3 in 1 - art by Alex V. Cook at the Supreme Bean
For any of you in the Central Midwest, I am having a reception for my art show Friday March 2, 2001 7pm at The Supreme Bean 1619 W. 39th St. Kansas City, MO The show runs March 1 - 31, 2001 and has three bodies of work Street Litter Diary (1995) Natural Philosophy Paintings(2000-1) Beehive Paintings (2000-1) some of which you can get a preview of at http://alexvcook.homestead.com love to see some fluxlisters there if there are any in the area. Thanks, Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: All your base are belong to us (no fluxus content)
http://www.imsa.edu/~dank/AYB2.swf _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: artist residencies
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Broodthaers: (nothing short of hero worship there) he's someone I've heard of and seen a few articles about but I still don't quite know what to think of him. Is there a particularly good book you'd reccommend? That's my list for today... What about yours? not sure if I'd want to study with anyone, but here's some people I'd like to hang out with and see how they work... Anselm Kiefer Rirkrit Tiravanija Jasper Johns On Kawara and really, any artist who was really passionate about what they are doing and about art. Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: web site to poem generator/shameless plug
Rob's Amazing Poem Generator http://www.cmdrtaco.net/poemgen.cgi This is what I got from my art website: Once again, as an escape from productive labor, I have resorted to programming. This one generates poetry. This poem was generated from http://alexvcook.homestead.com. http://alexvcook.homestead.com alexvcook This web site no programming required.Javascript is either disabled or not appear properly. ; Street Litter Diary Botanical Paintings Voodoo Paintings This site no programming required. Javascript is either disabled or not appear properly. fSet = fSet +; fSet + ; fSet +; fSet +; } fSet +; fSet +; fSet +; fSet +; fSet +; fSet +; This site uses JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by this page may not supported by this browser. Not exactly bodice-ripping stuff, but the frequent mentions of "disabled" give it a Beckett-esqe pathos vibe. Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: gerhard staebler
from another list: Who is this Gerhard Staebler character then? Alex Go to http://www.gerhard-staebler.de/ Click on KLANGBEISPIELE and then drüber. Top quality shouting from the man Stäbler and ensemble. One of my work colleagues attended a Stäbler concert where he climbed on to the piano and howled like a wolf before throwing marbles into it, which bounced off the strings and then on to the floor. Peter _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Tar
apply feathers Alex, ever helpful From: "Roger Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "FLUXLIST" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Tar Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:45:02 - Oh no... there's tar all over the carpet I must have picked it up on the beach how am I ever going to get that out? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: National Pie Day!
what are the odds? I unknowingly celebrated it yesterday by: 1.eating a piece of delicious Pecan Pie from the grocery store, and I haven't had pie of any sort in months. 2. listened to "Pecan Pie" off the Golden Smog "Down By the Old Mainstream" CD for the first time in months as well. (inspired by the pie). 3. called my sister, who's childhood nickname was "Pie", who I also hadn't talked to in months. (no connection to the other two) Next thing you know it will be raining frogs...or pie...or frog pie... Alex From: Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "?" "¦zcp" "ùÇ" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: National Pie Day! Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:31:15 -0800 (PST) I celebrated today by making a mock-cream cheese pumpkin pie (no eggs or dairy) with a graham cracker crust! Pie baking = happiness! http://www.piecouncil.org/pieday.htm - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: stuff for trade.....
I've got just the thing to trade. If your interested Alex V. Cook 318 w7th st. #509 Kansas City, MO 64105 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: stuff for trade. Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:52:14 EST (clean up time) small assemblage made from the gleanings grist got-left-behinds of the art space floor yours! for small similarly momentous object, collage, stamps, throwaway found pome, so on and etc. send to: NBB 6808 16th Ave. N.E. Seattle WA 98115-6841 USA _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: HulkChat (no fluxus content)
I always assumed that the name was changed from Bruce to David because the name "Bruce" had gay connotations acsribed to in US pop culture in the late seventies. Bill Bixby was kind of a sad guy, on TV anyway. First Eddie's father then the beleagured Hulk. He should have been given a turn as a TV private detective like everyone else was. But then he might have ended up being an introspective sullen, Beckett-esque anti-detective. "sighBut what would be the point of finding your husband, ma'am? The truth will only lead to dissappointment." Alex, rambling From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: HulkChat (no fluxus content) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:07:27 - wasn't his name Bruce Banner in the comic, but David Banner in the series? yes, but oddly enough in the TV Series of Spiderman they kept the name Peter Parker. Alliterative naming is crucial in these things ( wasn't Dr.Strange called Steve ?) cue music.walking along at the side of the road, bag over one shoulder.one of TV's saddest weekly moments in the seventies. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: HulkChat (no fluxus content)
well, in my mind's eye I turn into the hulk. but the reality is that I just go straight to the post-Hulk dishevelled David Banner state, wanting to dodge the authority figure that in inveritably after him for something he did. Don't remember the Absorbing Man. wasn't his name Bruce Banner in the comic, but David Banner in the series? and I remember she-hulk. there was a pic of a she-hulk cover in Art in America not too long ago. It was included as part of the "Modern Amazon" female bodybuilder show at the New Museum in NYC. cheers, Alex From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Chicago in February Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:29:43 - Alex, having one of those days where he'd like do a Bruce Banner-to-Incredible Hulk transformation and wreak havoc. I take it we wouldn't like you when you're angry;) Dr Banner bombarded his body with gamma rays just to see what would happen, he's the Tim Leary of radiation! cheers, Sol. (who once found himself more impressed by The Absorbing Man than the Hulk (needless to say in a battle between the two)...hey, who remembers the She-Hulk? that was a comic going nowhere fast!Jarella, no!) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Chicago in February
That's what makes the disguise so ingenious and the transition between the two so seamless. One pair of glasses and some tight underwear standing between mild-mannered non-existence and well, less mild-mannered non-existence. That's why I opt for glasses rather than tight underwear. Alex, having one of those days where he'd like do a Bruce Banner-to-Incredible Hulk transformation and wreak havoc. From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Chicago in February Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:33:52 -0500 Is Clark Kent really Superman? Clark Kent really is Superman. Neither Clark Kent nor Superman really exist, however. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: not David Baptiste Chirot, but playing one on television
carol - did you get the package yet? Alex, hoping he had the right address. on blueberry hill rd _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Anyone want to take over the Fluxus Bulletin Board?
I don't want the job, but here are some proposals for a more traditional fluxus bulletin board: 1. Put up a standard cork bulletin board on the wall labeled: "Fluxus Bulletin Board. Get permission from George Macuinas before posting items here." Provide thumbtacks and slips of paper. 2. Put up a standard cork bulletin board on the wall labeled : "Fluxus Bulletin Board. Please use thumbtacks and paper provided." ." Provide no thumbtacks and slips of paper. 3. Put up a sheet of metal, glass, stone are any other very hard substance on the wall labeled: "Fluxus Bulletin Board. Please use thumbtacks and paper provided." Provide thumbtacks and slips of paper. 4. Label an open window "Fluxus Bulletin Board. Please use thumbtacks and paper provided." Provide thumbtacks and slips of paper. Items are posted by throwing them out the window. not much help, Alex From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Anyone want to take over the Fluxus Bulletin Board? Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:22:12 -0500 I just fired myself as the editor of the Fluxus Bulletin Board http://www.nutscape.com/fluxus/bulletin/. I completely missed last year. So I'm out. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Another giveaway from Josh R...
sort of, it fell into my briefcase and I forgot to mail it out. It will be in the mail to carol starr in the morning. and I'll take the spronch if it hasn't been claimed Alex From: "Josh Ronsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Another giveaway from Josh R... Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 06:28:28 -0800 Yea! Fluxlist is back. I had sent out the below offer when Fluxlist was down and was wondering why no one claimed it. I am offering, for free, to the first person who claims it, 1 unopened package of Sponch. The only requirement is that you must have no idea what Sponch is, or attempt to find out before it arrives. Email me first, and it is yours (and maybe you will send me something of "equal" value in return, although Sponch is very much an unequaled thing in the world...). -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen ps: whatever happened to my short short story that was being passed around for modifications/improvements? Did it fall into the hands of someone who loves it so much they are going to keep it? Who had it last? Has it been modified so much that it can't be mailed? DId someone eat it? --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: brus nitsch roth ruhm wiener
A friend came across a box set of LP's that was labeled "brus nitsch roth ruhm wiener" The first three, my friend and I are familiar with. Anyone know who the Ruhm and Wiener are? and what Dieter Roth's recorded output might be? I thought they might have been some of the aktors in the aktionist events, but not sure. Alex _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Postal and Electronic Mail Division - request
Ann - Glad you liked it. it was pretty easy. did a print screen (Alt - PrtScrn in windows,dunno what the function is on a mac) - very useful little function pasted it into Paint Shop Pro (free trial from http://www.jasc.com) set the background to black used the lasso control to cut out a circle pasted the black hole as a new image Paint shop pro is a nice little graphics package for being "free"(it has a 60 day trial period, after which you can just reinstall it) and I think its only $60-70 for those non-pirates out there. All - again, sorry for any problems it may have caused. Alex From: ann klefstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Postal and Electronic Mail Division - request Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 08:18:36 -0800 O but it was charming--how did you do that? AK Alex Cook wrote: Fluxlist, please accept my apologies, I meant to reply that just to Alan. 56K is probably not a inbox killer, but I apologize nonetheless. Alex V. Cook _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Postal and Electronic Mail Division - request
Fluxlist, please accept my apologies, I meant to reply that just to Alan. 56K is probably not a inbox killer, but I apologize nonetheless. Alex V. Cook _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Postal and Electronic Mail Division - request
Alan - attached to this email, you should find the message and the hole enjoy, Alex From: "alan bowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "Diego Barovier" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "glen bowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"wolf dalla francesca damiani" [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Ken Friedman" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"sarah tranter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: FFFO Postal and Electronic Mail Division - request Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:14:47 +0100 Please cut a hole in this e-mail. Pass something through the hole. Send a record of the event to: alan bowman via lorenzago 15 (int 7) 30174 mestre venezia italia or by electricmail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also available - non electronic versions - send a postal address The usual cobbled together documentation to all. Thanks in anticipation alan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. abowmanhole1.gif abowmanhole2.gif
Re: FLUXLIST: NYTimes.com Article: Yoko Ono: Painter, Sculptor, Musician, Muse
The music is unbearable, and let's leave it at that. The films,
however, include her best achievements. Lennon collaborated and
acted. They sometimes extended what she had already done: "Film No.
5 (Smile)," in which he simply smiles at the camera in slow motion,
is connected with her earlier sculpture "A Box of Smile." For
"Rape" (it's not in the exhibition but will be screened at Japan
Society), a camera crew followed an unsuspecting woman into her
apartment, to her mounting alarm. Like "Cut Piece" it was about
violation, but now Ms. Ono's and her husband's celebrity was the
obvious subtext.
Nice review ,except for one thing. Why are reviewers so ready to call her
music unbearable? Why can't they take the high road and give it the
"challenging" moniker, like how people describe Lou Reed's "Metal Machine
Music?" His is a comparable story - an interesting artist in his own right
who became famous by association with an already famous artist, Warhol in
his case. But his "challenging" records are classics in critical circles.
And his arguably lame records ("The Bells") are just part of the master's
ouvre. Is it because she's a woman? Is it because she is viewed as having
broken up the Beatles?
I checked out the Ono box from the library once to really get a feel for
what her music was about. There are definite hits ("Plastic Ono Band") and
misses (some of the more dated hippie-rock things that I don't remember the
title of) but I think its a stretch to call any of it unbearable. It seems
dismissive rather than critical.
I'm not saying her work needs to be handled with kid gloves because she is
"poor Yoko." I would just like to see her art treated seriously.
Alex
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FLUXLIST: Tempus Fugit
Hi - For all you midwestern fluxlisters I recommend you go check out the Tempus Fugit show at the Nelson Atkins museum in Kansas City. http://www.nelson-atkins.org/tempusfugit/ (has alots of flash in it) lots of fluxus content - including the harness, drawings and perfomance stills from Carolee Schneeman's "limitations of my body" piece, where she hung upside down naked and scribbled on the walls, Paik's "TV Buhdda", and even a Geoff Hendricks card prominently on display in one of Andy Warhol's "time capsules". also a Makio Mori video, Duchamp "Boite en valsie", Sol Lewitt wall drawing, Robert Smithson's vidoe about the Spiral Jetty, etc etc etc I think the Nelson is a great museum anyway , but this is an amzing show. Let me know if any of you come into town and we can meet up for some good BBQ and company. Alex _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
FLUXLIST: gregorio.guillermo
I happened upon this and thought it might be on interest to some here anyone know anything about this guy? http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/gregorio.guillermo.html Artist: GREGORIO, GUILLERMO Title: Otra Musica Label: ATAVISTIC Format: CD Price: $13.00 Catalog #: ATA 209 "The full title of this landmark collection, Otra Musica: Tape Music, Fluxus Free Improvisation in Buenos Aires 1963-70, says a tremendous amount this overwhelming package in of itself. Though he has only recently come to international attention through his recordings for Hatart as a leader and with Franz Koglmann, Argentinean clarinetist and alto saxophonist Guillermo Gregorio had a fascinating earlier artistic incarnation in Buenos Aires. Heretofore totally unknown, these recordings bring to light an incredibly sophisticated sound-world of proto-electronica, Fluxus-oriented performance art and very early free improvised music, all from a virtually secret enclave of South American experimentalism. Sixteen tracks, none ever released before, with various groups including Movimiento Msica Ms, totally free duets with trumpeter Carlos Miralles from '64, an astounding solo alto piece from the same year. Painstakingly researched and lavishly documented, with an in-depth essay by John Corbett, loads of great photos and reproductions of two of Gregorio's 1960s paintings, Otra Musica: Tape Music, Fluxus Free Improvisation in Buenos Aires 1963-70 will stand as one of the great archival unearthings of creative music." _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: Name the Band
I've always thought CoCo Mephisto would be a good band name, so you are welcome to it Alex From: "Patricia Dean" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Name the Band Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:32:18 +0100 To All: My friend Lila has a new chamber music group. They need a name!! Musicians are violinist, cellist, guitarist (guitarist also plays lute and mandolin), soprano vocalist (also flutist). Music consists of opera, classical, baroque, renaissance, celtic, jazz, and, oh, popular stuff. Help!!! (that last cry is from Lila) Best, PK _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: jronsen's letter
speaking of unfinished projects, I have finally gotten around to finishing my part of the jronsen letter manipulation. I think it is supposed to go to Carol* next but I'm not sure. Were you next, Carol? if so send me your addr and I'll get it out to you Thank, Alex _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: How to find Time
From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, What I want to do is work out a way of making sure I follow through on ideas immediately rather than just writing scrappy notes of what I'm going to do and then never doing it. I'm interested to know how others tackle this problem. Hi Sol. Once I read an interview by Richard Konstalenez(sp?) where he said something to the effect that the ideas you have not executed are just as important as the ones you did execute and that you should write them all down, which I found rather inspiring. So I've always managed to have some kind of project book around where I can sketch things out so I don't forget them. The trick is to just get yourself in the habit of writing them down immediately, instead of convincing you'll do it at the next commercial break, and also have a book big enough to properly sketch it out, but small enough to be handy. I like the idea of carrying a small sketch book of little tablet like detectives use on TV, but I never did actually use it. I got one now that is about the size of a novel, with a soft leather cover and is filled with graph paper, and its perfect. I spent most of last week at the hospital with a sick relative, and ended up sketching out a lot of projects that had been sitting around dissolving in my brain. Basically its maintaining a mild mixture discipline and handiness that gets me by. Alex Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Re:
count me in Alex V. Cook 318 w 7th st #509 Kansas city, MO 64105 From: "Devon Paulson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:45:38 PDT O.K. Which of you wants to do something cool? No, seriously- Who wants to do something really cool? Wait what, what are you all laughing at? Seriously- It's art, who wants to do some art with me via the mail? Sound tempting? Come on you kids, you gravey kids- let's do some art together. I have this project I have been working on over the last few weeks. I am going to exhibit it, along with some other concept projects, in October. But you kids can be the first to do this with me. Whoever wants to play with me just write your address on the list DISCO Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: LaMonte Young
From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW I can recommend "Please Kill Me" as a pretty interesting readit's a bit too centred on the US considering the role of English Punk (in fact English punk gets pretty heavily criticised in the book) but it's pretty interesting for those who liked/still like punk. I second that. Read it and then listen to the new remastered version of Iggy and the Stooges' "Raw Power". Trust me on this. For the English side of the story, Jon Savage's "England's Dreaming : Anarchy, Sex Pistols, Punk Rock and Beyond" is equally engaging. I really like that they are both written in that George Plimpton compiled-from-personal-accounts style. Speaking of, I came across "Mr. Fluxus" the collective portrait of GM, and its written like that, except the authors aren't noted in the articles themselves, just in a footnote section in the back. Very annoying to have to flip back and forth, but otherwise is an intersting read. Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: My complaint about Fluxlist
generated by http://www-csag.cs.uiuc.edu/individual/pakin/complaint My complaint about Fluxlist Why is it that some people are so devoid of a sense of humor? Naturally, I'm referring to Fluxlist's latest canards. One of the first facts we should face is that if this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to help you reflect and reexamine your views on Fluxlist. If Fluxlist wanted to, it could create profound emotional distress for people on both sides of the issue. It could give rise to the worst sorts of hotheaded grizzlers there are. And it could portray foul-mouthed misanthropes as ogres. We must really not allow Fluxlist to do any of these. So what if Fluxlist hates me for pointing out that its litanies have led to date rape, domestic violence, pornography, and other social ills? Let it hate me. I consider such hatred a mark of honor, a mark of distinction. Now that you've heard what I've had to say, I want you to think about it. And I want you to join me and speak out against behavior and speech that is intended to force me to call the police. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Find out what kind of cheese you are
It's an important thing to know. http://www.astradyne.co.uk/cheese/ Cheers, Alex V. Cook, AKA "feta" Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: written thingy
As a world leading potting shed salesman, I understand how these things happen. No sweat, Dave, just send it on to me after applying your special lime flavor to the mix. Thanks, Alex From: "Devon Paulson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: written thingy Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:45:58 PDT I just relized that it was supposed to go to Alex, I am so sorry. Please don't beat me with a pogo stick again, I have learned my lesson- Alex the potting shed salesman, not David the king of natural lime flavoring. I am sorry. Dave how about a forward? Huh, big guy? disco From: Patricia Devon: Just so nonstampcontributores don't feel left out, and I wish I had the bucks to send them to all, I had a few sheets left over for mail art, so included some to you, Devon. The stamps sent to contributors became, essentially a kind of book - an editioned set. More stuff included in them than stamps. Ummm, the letter was supposed to go to Alex Cook...David could forward?? Best,PK Best, PK Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: another trade
Bluebird it is! and Elin got in first. Thanks for participating, everyone. Elin, send me you address (off-list if you wish) and the box is yours. More to come Thanks Josh for inspiring this Alex From: Elin Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: another trade Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:43:59 +0200 (CEST) what bird is the state bird of missouri? surely too late, but: bluebird Elin Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Fold/spindle/shred/mutilate the altered joshstory
I thought I got it next Alex From: "Devon Paulson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fold/spindle/shred/mutilate the altered joshstory Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:15:09 PDT I guess you get it after me dave. I still haven't recieved it yet, but I'm sure it'll be here in the next day or so- then on to you. disco From: David Baptiste Chirot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is belated--but would like very much to pariticpate in the altering of Josh's masterpiece piece by piece limb by limb is Orpheus torn-- to bits and reassembled as . . . a '57 chevy Nomad dave baptiste chirot 2515 N. Oakland #106 Milwaukee, WI 53211 USA from top shelf to bottom no bars hold . . . the mighty elixir Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: TIMEPIECE Project
Patricia/all here's my contibution, updated constantly http://alexvcook.homestead.com/files/timepiece.htm Styled after On Kawara, who has done the finest body of work about chartiung time. Alex requires a Javascript enabled browser to view it From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: TIMEPIECE Project Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:00:56 -0700 "busy hands are happy hands" --my fourth grade elementary school teacher, Miss Dillingham Okay, kids, ur all lyin in ur hammocks drinkin lemonade or beer, and I guess about six of us will industriously muster the energy to actually go vertical once a day and do this, (although I guess one could remain horizontal), so One image, same thing, or words or painting or drawing or whatever at the same time every day from the 10th of July ' til the 31st - if you will keep them in a horizontal format in the same size, it would be appreciated (in keeping with summer, horizontal, yes?) No size preference, just send 'em to me when you're done, by email or snail mail and I'll do.something...sorry, I have to take a nap, now. P.K. Harris 137 Sixth St. Pacific Grove, CA 93950 USA allen bukoff wrote: "Time don't mean thing to me? / I've got life to go " --George Jones prison song "People say that I'm lazy. But it takes all my time." -- Joe Walsh Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: story
I'll take it... Alex From: "Ronsen, Josh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: story Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:15:11 -0500 Hello Fluxlist Friends, Last night, while waiting for something to print at a copy shop, I used their typewriter to write an improvised short, short, short story. I will mail it, the only copy in existence, to the first person who emails me. The story involves Aldous Huxley, death, Cleveland, and at least one person's chin gets rubbed. On your mark, get set... -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Poem Book
I didn't see my name either. -Alex Books have gone to - Christine Wang Jay Marvin Mn Eryk Salvaggio Rod Stasick Melissa McCarthy Reed Altemus Sol Nte Bill Swofford NBB Lord H Nick Potter Carol Starr Ken Friedman Ann Klefstad Our Pat Best Poet dave baptiste chirot Owen Neal Johnson alan bowman Pez Uncle Tom Cobbley Awl who sail in her Roger Over and out! Children's poetry in The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.ndirect.co.uk Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Vienna Actionists
Certainly the Actionists were the only ones to kill and disembowel animals in the name of art as well as explore a range of unusual social and sexual behaviour that even today many would still consider shocking. I know of a couple other examples of killing off animals in the name of art. Joe Coleman came to pulic noteriety by killing (and maybe eating live) mice during the course of his performances. It was puported to be about his parents dying of cancer, and his relationship with them, crossed with his sideshow geek affiliations. There was another artist that used to smah a mouse between two canvases and display the results as paintings.In the latest Art News, there was a little blurb about an artist who set up a number of blenders with goldfish in them, and was shocked when people in the gallery actually turned them on and killed the fish. Another artist, John Jeffries, in his MFA show, had a container filled with flies and a bottle of cyanide. it had a mechanism where people could vote whether to kill the fies or release them. some fellow artists made t-shirts to plead with people to free them, the the overwhelming vote was to kill the flies. My impression of the Vienna Aktioists is that they all did similar rituals but for different reasons. The following are my somewhat uninformed opinions on the subject, mostly from seeing photos of the perfomances and my impressions from that. I see Nitch's long orgies as trying to create a large ritual event, to celebrate (if that's the right word) the power of being human. They seem to be celebrations of the ego, with all the sacrifices, and the staged domination of others (crucification, dousing bound participants with blood, etc etc) Muehl's work seems to be more about an intimate Dominance/submission kind of situation, where a model allows the artist to control and sculpt asn use him/herself for the artists puposes. The photos I've seen of his aktions show him basically binding and covering a nude model with various things witha small audience present. Gunter Brus seemed to be more about nullification of the self, blaking himself out by painting his body white, placing himself in an envrionment of refuse, things like that. It's like an acting out to get attention. I don't mean to downplay his work, I find it very evocative, I think he is using a lot of psychological motifs that childern use to get attention, just on a scarrier, larger scale. Rudolph Schwartkongler, is really my favorite. His work seems to be about suffereing, and the narcissism that can be exhibited by those who suffer, particularly manic-depressives. Again, I don't mean to downplay his work or the real suffereing of depression. The way he uses medical implements, like bandages and eyedroppers, how he made himself look pregnant, or bloated by strapping a ball to himself, shows to me that he was an artist trying to truly and poetically come to terms with his misery. Overall, I don't think the VA artists were just trying to shock, but to somehow redifine their humaninty in what is an increasingly inhumane, mechanized world, whether by flying the banner of human power like Nitsch and Muehl, or by finfishing the job of dehuminazation like Brus and Schwartzkongler. Thanks for the links, Sol. I'll definitely go through them to learn more about it. I got introduced to VA when Simon Anderson was a teacher at Louisiana State Univeristy, before he took his position in Chicago. He and I became friends and he opened my eyes to a lot of art that I might not have known about otherwise. Bob Flanagan's work, from a long article on him in Artforum a couple years back, is an interesting mix of extreme masochism (he once had a pit built under his house where he was placed, and was fed through a tube that originated froma funnel inside the house, where his dominatrix lover would pour things down it, etc etc) and increasing pain and vulnerability, since he was suffereing from Muscular Distrophy. In an exhibition in LA, he was present the whole time in a hospital bed where he could talk to museum visitors. His legs were attached to a hoist that, on a timer, would lift him up and dangle him for a few minutes naked in the gallery, with his hospital gown hanging around his head. He managed to work the ravages of his disease to an adavntage of sorts, because it put him in a position where he really was at the mercy of others. Re/Search published an good book on him called "Supermasochist" taht you might be able to find at your more hip establishments. And now that you have all suffered through my ego-ritual-orgy of half-ass art history blathering, I'd like to hear any other thoughts on the VA artists. -Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Fwd: fallnet virus thread
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Re: FLUXLIST: lightworks: Ray Johnson issue
cool! what is on the CD? I dont' think I've ever heard his audio work. Alex From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I got my copy of Lightworks: The Ray Johnson issue in the post the other day. It's fantastic and I can highly recommend it, it includes an audio CD of RaybeingRaybeingRay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Promo/Used CD question
With all the strong opinions being bandied about artist profits and so forth, is there anyone here who doesn't buy used CD's, especially ones that are labeled as promo cd's not for sale. I had never really thought about it before until I picked up a used Vic Chesnutt CD yesterday, trading in some stuff, most of which was also bought used. I mean, neither Vic Chesnutt nor Capitol records are seeing any profits from this transaction. The CD was a radio station promo, stamped that it is not for sale and can be recalled by the record company at any time, they didn't even see a profit from it being sold the first time around. The practice of reselling promo CD's is blatantly illegal, but in the US anyway, the Used CD business is huge and expanding. I remember Garth Brooks tried unsuccessfully to block stores from selling used copies of his CD's, using similar arguments as presented in the MP3 debates. So is there anyone here who refuses to buy used CD's? Myke? Curious, Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Vic Chesnutt and the vast music industry shadow govt conspiracy
ps. just saw vic c last night with kristin h. great show. does your radio promo have bonus tracks? I bet that was a good show. The CD I picked up is "About to Choke" and it has the same track listing as what is shown on CDNow. Is "The Salesman and Bernadette" any good? Speaking of CDNow, and the subject that brung us here, from what I understand CDNow was selling CD's at a loss just to build up a customer database to sell off, a business model which apparently has failed in their case. I used to work for a major national ISP/portal service, and its scary how much info is gathered and sold off. The newer version of this service has an address window built into the shell it puts on your browser that tracks the URLS you type in and captures all that in a database somewhere, presumably to sell. It didn't capture hyperlinks you clicked on, but just URL's you typed in. But then this whole internet thing rests on a structure built by the defnse department, so its a safe bet that its being recorded anyway. Did you hear a clicking noise? Alex With all the strong opinions being bandied about artist profits and so forth, is there anyone here who doesn't buy used CD's, especially ones that are labeled as promo cd's not for sale. I had never really thought about it before until I picked up a used Vic Chesnutt CD yesterday, trading in some stuff, most of which was also bought used. I mean, neither Vic Chesnutt nor Capitol records are seeing any profits from this transaction. The CD was a radio station promo, stamped that it is not for sale and can be recalled by the record company at any time, they didn't even see a profit from it being sold the first time around. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Derek's Big Website of Wal-mart Receipts
this seems to have a touch of fluxus to it...I love this kind of stuff -Alex Derek's Big Website of Wal-mart Receipts http://lightning.prohosting.com/~receipts/ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box
I'll go - I've had mine for a couple weeks now, and I am very pleased with the box. The quality of the contributed pieces is much higher than I expected. I like how it comes across as an activity kit, rather than simply an artifact, or a small collection of multiples. I too would like to know who did some of the unsigned pieces. My biggest amazement is how well all the pieces fit in the box together, especially since there wer no clearly definied size guidlines put forth. This is the best executed collaborative art thing I've had the pleasure to be involved with, and I think we should do more of them. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be Owen's map piece. Also I'd be curious to know if anyone is planning to perform or has performed any of the scores put in the box. Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights
I personally think MP3's are the coolest thing going. I have pretty compulsive music interests, so its great to be able to find stuff by most artists for free. I download a lot of stuff that I'd never just go out and buy. To me, its no real difference than dubbing an album on cassette or burning a CD copy of a commercially bought CD. Its just that its a little easier. and the sound quality is better. I check out a lot of music from the library, is that cutting into the artist's rights, since I will listen to a library CD about as much as I do the average MP3 I download? Both involve one copy being bought and then shared among a large pool of people. And I just can't get too excited about defending the profit channels of huge record companies. If CD's weren't so expensive I might feel differently. A quip from Jon Stewart on the Daily Show about Metallica's lawsuit against Napster sums it up for me. "It's the latest move in Metallica's campaign against youth culture and fun." Alex From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 07:52:50 -0700 Hi all, I'm interested in thoughts out there about Napster. I downloaded it just to check it out yesterday, the download actually asked me if I wanted to upload all of the MP3 files on my hard drive!! While I don't like paying high cd prices, what appears to be a tempting free buffet at Napster, seems to me to be a HUGE ripoff of artists' rights. I would be outraged at others taking my work without my permission and sharing it. Let alone the loss of income. I'm interested in opinions on this. Best, PK Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights
or is it possibly changing the way it all works. As it becomes easier and easier to produce your own website and distribute/sell your music through MP3's yourself, for a lot less money than a record company, maybe you'll find you really don't need a big record deal and a big record company. Maybe it will change what it takes to "make it" as a musician. From: Lord Hasenpfeffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:36:59 -0400 (EDT) I would be outraged at others taking my work without my permission and sharing it. Let alone the loss of income. I would think a majority of recording artists do what they do on a full time basis. Take away their income and they'll find another means by which to earn a living. I believe things such as Napster only work to ultimately rob the individuals doing the trading of the very music they enjoy trading. It's a mild form of suicide if you ask me. Myke Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
