RE: FLUXLIST: edition
Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
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Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
RE: FLUXLIST: edition
Disease of the will - or the willing of dis-ease? Either way it afflicts me too Ann. Allan Are -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:04 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim
Nothing is more frightening than a tidy life. Allan Revich April 30, 2006
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FLUXLIST: [harp err]
[harp err] oleander art pendulum bounty victimize mercenary tirelessness gemstone kingly extenuate thruway gunsmith navy bean steamboat principal bent parakeet churlishly cornet chicle funk selflessness subsistence flammability ivy duchess stuck letter-perfect genuflect symbolically hatch confused stripling happy-go-lucky unfair hypodermic out-of-date orbit irrecoverable singles warrant metamorphose concurrent uterus helicopter furnace interdenominational desire glean Wash. sailor psychoanalyst examination stolid parking meter sprinkler he's variably pomp foetus polar bear lady-slipper sandpaper statement spinsterhood pecuniary forenoon unworthy unruly organically casuistry largo
FLUXLIST: Headline Haiku
Headlines: April 30, 2006 Rescuers locate Aussie gold miners alive Stone sure to bounce back Allan Revich
Re: FLUXLIST: edition
I remember a fascinating moment in Ninotchka in which Greta Garbo (in her role as a Soviet envoy to the West) tells her just-seduced Western counterpart who's about to turn on the radio: No, honey! Let's play music just for ourselves! and pulls out a record. Peculiar moment: from the commons to the private. But there is a point to it being somehow out there: sound, music, anything. Btw, the film is cool: can't remember dates or directors, but it is a curious mix between Metropolis and a Marx Bros. comedy. Highly recommendable. K. On 30/04/2006, at 20:09, Allan Revich wrote: Disease of the will - or the willing of dis-ease? Either way it afflicts me too Ann. Allan Are -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:04 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim
All arises from nothing and returns to nothing. All hail Nothing!
Re: FLUXLIST: edition
On 2006 Apr 28, at 11:03 PM, Kathy Forer wrote: Ahh, then you need to go to molecular, protein or holographic memory. How about 10 GB per cubic centimeter in a sugar cube? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_97/journal/vol1/ary/ Thanks for this. I've been watching the holographic storage for a while, but didn't know about the Protein one - WOW! Sounds like you could use one of Bowie's 'Man Who Fell To Earth' metal spheres. Oh, boy. That brings up early memories! Kinda like a lighted platform that would read a golfball sized sphere? I just wish the whole of recorded music was easily available somewhere. The Biggest Disk Extreme is nice, nuh? Three impressive things: speed, it's small footprint, and, of course, it's storage size. I have to say tho that when you have a smaller HD, you learn to transfer stuff to discs sooner (because you'll soon lose room)...but, of course, with something huge, it's easier to dump a bunch of extra unnecessary things onto it - without discipline - which just becomes another crap buildup area. rod --- Now playing: David Bowie - Teenage Wildlife http://stasick.org
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On 2006 Apr 29, at 1:53 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: So maybe, in this sense, an appropriate way to prepare a Fluxbox nowadays would be to turn it into a Fluxdrive... Yup, I'm in for it. Yeah, a Sony Fluxstick. rod --- Now playing: The Fall - New Puritan RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u you won't like all of it
FLUXLIST: we
we love you we want the world - and we want it now we care a lot we will rock you we love our audience we rock we're not gonna take it we don't need no education we don't need no thought control we're gonna have a real good time together we're gonna kill the california girls we won't get fooled again we all want it we all need it we can be heroes we are the champions all we hear is radio ga-ga for those about to rock - we salute you we will not be lovers we're pretty we're pretty vacant first we take manhattan, then we take berlin we don't need another hero hey, hey we're the monkees we are the world we are the children we are the ones who make a better day there's a choice we're making, we're saving our own lives i am he as you are he as you are me as we are all together we all want to change the world we are doing what we can we all want to change your head we are all just prisoners here of our own device we are the pigs we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun and we're gonna stay there as long as we think we should hey, hey we're the junkies Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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On 2006 Apr 29, at 2:18 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Well, the costs are the costs. Once upon a time, we had these things called public libraries, which were really cool for people who couldn't, you know, buy 20-30 books or records a week. But we kind of forgot about these places. I mean, even our university libraries aren't what they used to be anymore. Yes, of course: COSTS - that's always the bugaboo... ...but I've spent less time in the library too because you no longer have to go there to hear their scratchy old LPs (which have been played to death and ill-cared for - CDs too - for decades). Say you haven't heard White Bird from It's A Beautiful Day for many years. Does you really want to call around to libraries looking for it? In any case, for works of this size (and historical value), it seems obvious that we need more resources like ubuweb. I don't mean free access, necessarily, but just the availability of material. I mean, you download the Dial-a-Poem pieces if you really want to hear them, and, well, if you're really into them, you can go out and try and find an original LP edition, or a CD box set, or whatever. Yup, and we're getting more resources for that kind of thing now. If Ubuweb has the complete Dial-A-Poet series, then I can now dump my whole collection online. There's always someone on eBay, for instance, who'll want the feel and size of the LP artwork and'll be willing to pay a pretty price for it. rod --- Now playing: David Bowie - Ashes To Ashes
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On 01/05/2006, at 0:07, Rod Stasick wrote: On 2006 Apr 29, at 2:18 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Well, the costs are the costs. Once upon a time, we had these things called public libraries, which were really cool for people who couldn't, you know, buy 20-30 books or records a week. But we kind of forgot about these places. I mean, even our university libraries aren't what they used to be anymore. Yes, of course: COSTS - that's always the bugaboo... ...but I've spent less time in the library too because you no longer have to go there to hear their scratchy old LPs (which have been played to death and ill-cared for - CDs too - for decades). Say you haven't heard White Bird from It's A Beautiful Day for many years. Does you really want to call around to libraries looking for it? Well, I was using the idea of a public library allegorically - to indicate the Net, or whatever's left of the free online commons out there. Oh, well, there's still some space between the bookshelves there... Best, Kamen Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
RE: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim
Vive le nothing! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:25 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim All arises from nothing and returns to nothing. All hail Nothing!
Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim
My alphabet starts with this letter called yuzz. It's the letter I use to spell yuzz-a-ma-tuzz. You'll be sort of surprised what there is to be found once you go beyond 'Z' and start poking around! Theodor Geisel On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Allan Revich wrote: Vive le nothing! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:25 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim All arises from nothing and returns to nothing. All hail Nothing!
Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim
What if nothing exists and we're all in somebody's dream? Or what's worse, what if only that fat guy in the third row exists? Woody Allen On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Allan Revich wrote: Vive le nothing! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:25 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing Maxim All arises from nothing and returns to nothing. All hail Nothing!
