Re: commenting the Knuth code/centering issue

2004-11-06 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote:
[BTW, I'm considering getting that Digital Typography
book by Knuth you had mentioned earlier.  Do you
recommend it?  (I was thinking that given all the time
I spend on FOP I should start looking a little more at
the scientific aspects of this work.)]
Yes, a must read if you are into computer assisted
typesetting.
J.Pietschmann


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-11-06 14:24 ---
Luca,

Leaders with content: in the test file leaders.fo I get PDF errors in
the SVG parts.

I have not checked the calculations of the vertical alignment. The
provided test fo files, and some test files I created myself, behave
well under the new code. I trust the code is OK.

As Finn pointed out, vertical-align is a shorthand property in
XSL. The values top, bottom, middle and baseline map to the values
before-edge, after-edge, middle and baseline of the property
alignment-baseline, with the properties alignment-adjust,
baseline-shift and dominant-baseline being at their default
values. Therefore I think if the current property vertical-align is
renamed to alignment-baseline, the code will keep working fine, and
the way is free to implement vertical-align as a shorthand property.

InlineLM is now a class (created by Finn on Oct. 19). The hierarchy
is:

InlineStackingLM
- InlineLM
- LineLM

The class InlineLM is at the position in the hierarchy where I think
InlineLM interface should be. Therefore I think InlineLM class can
well be merged with the proposed InlineLM interface.

I think the code in this patch is OK for committing to CVS. The items
noted above can be addressed over time.  However, the patch as it is
cannot be applied to the current version of CVS HEAD, due to the newly
created InlineLM class and extensive changes in property retrieval. If
you submit a patch of the same code against the current CVS HEAD, I
will commit it. Or you can keep it until you have write access to CVS
yourself.

Regards, Simon


Re: commenting the Knuth code/centering issue

2004-11-06 Thread Luca Furini
Jeremias Maerki wrote:

 No, I don't think Luca has write access, yet. I know by now that the CLA
 is recorded but the account hasn't been created, yet, although I've
 already sent a reminder.

I have just received the e-mail confirming the creation of my account.

I am now reading the http://www.apache.org/dev/ documents, so I should
soon be able to work.

Regards,
Luca





Re: commenting the Knuth code/centering issue

2004-11-06 Thread Luca Furini
Glen Mazza wrote:

 [BTW, I'm considering getting that Digital Typography
 book by Knuth you had mentioned earlier.  Do you
 recommend it?  (I was thinking that given all the time
 I spend on FOP I should start looking a little more at
 the scientific aspects of this work.)]

I think it's very interesting.
It is a collection of essays on various topics, and besides the one about
line breaking (with fabulous features like paragraphs with different sized
lines ...) there is one about bidirectional text, one about fonts ...
It is surely an authoritative source on such matters.

Regards,
Luca





Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/resources/images group-logo.gif logo.jpg

2004-11-06 Thread Clay Leeds
On Nov 6, 2004, at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
clay2004/11/06 08:57:40
  Modified:.forrest.properties
   src/documentation sitemap.xmap skinconf.xml
   src/documentation/content/xdocs compliance.xml 
graphics.xml
resources.xml site.xml
   src/documentation/resources/images group-logo.gif 
logo.jpg
  Log:
  Updates to achieve a /forrest/ BUILD SUCCESSSFUL for the xml-fop web 
site.
I'm in the process of ironing out the 'final' glitches in the /forrest/ 
building of xml-fop. In spite of the comment above, we're actually not 
quite at the BUILD SUCCESSFUL I've been working towards for so many 
months. Among other issues, I've still got to fix some problems with 
the transformation of FO  SVG files for the Examples Page  
dev/svg.html... In addition, I'm still working towards getting the 
Compliance page fixed. I've got it outputting some content, but we're 
still missing citations and some other stuff. But we're close!

Web Maestro Clay
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Re: FOP Web Site Update

2004-11-06 Thread Clay Leeds
On Nov 5, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
Clay Leeds wrote:
Well, it didn't happen next week or even the week after. Getting 
the FOP Standards Compliance page[1] up to snuff has been, shall we 
say... challenging. But I've finally got content (the table of 
'compliance'!) displaying.

Unfortunately, we're still not there, as the link portion (which 
serves as a veritable Table of Contents for the table) is not being 
generated yet. More importantly, the color-code system isn't working 
yet, either (the bgcolor is always 'white'). Also, the Citation 
links are not generated either.

These should all prove relatively simple to resolve (especially if I 
had some help from someone who knows how to make that portion work: 
are you listening Keiron, Glen or Christian ;-) wink!). Or, I could 
just continue plodding through the muck and see if I can figure it 
out.
The compliance page is quite difficult to understand, IIRC one needs 
to be fairly knowledgable about Cocoon sitemaps.  But I last looked at 
it before I was a committer.  I don't think the colors/sorting by 
compliance level are that important, however.  The XSL spec lists each 
FO (and property, I believe) in terms of one of three compliance 
levels--but we don't need to duplicate that information on this page 
anymore.  I think most people go to this page to determine if property 
X or formatting object Y is available, regardless of its listed 
compliance level in the specification.
My intention at this point is to make the page work as well as it did 
before. Once that is achieved (and the FO + SVG transformations are 
either resolved or workarounds are made) I will put the new site live.

As for the bgcolor of the table-cell I think helps one see, 
at-a-glance, the level of compliance. That is an important 'feature' to 
have--bordering on showstopper IMO.

On a related note, IIRC I wanted to change the color scheme to Red - 
Amber - Green (stop light analogy: No - Partial - Full compliance--I'm 
aware of the argument about something either being compliant or it's 
not ;-))

[BTW, If you can change to the bright red color for the mouse-hover 
like the Web Services TLP has that would be nice.]
Try it now:
http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/xml-fop/xml-graphics/
It's not 'bright' red (it's dark red - #66), but I think the 
contrast is subtle without being brash. Would you prefer #ff?

One thing perhaps we should change sometime, is to remove/replace our 
leading graphic on our home page [1].  For a newbie to XSL, it looks 
silly:  See with FOP, you need to create 75 lines of XSL in order to 
get one line of output!  Hopefully we will have something better to 
replace it with in the future.
Good idea. I recall being perplexed myself with that. Of course, that 
includes the soup-to-nuts information for an entire page, including 
page margins and page-sequence. I'm thinking of at least adding an 
image to the 'page'.

Thanks,
Glen
[1] http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/xml-fop/images/document.jpg
Thanks for your comments!
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-11-07 06:00 ---
I created this bug and assigned it to myself. Unfortunately, it didn't e-mail 
fop-dev when I did that. So I 
just unassigned myself (so fop-dev@ gets a copy), and am now re-assigning it to 
myself.

NOTE: If any of you have 'starter' documents to share, I *would* love to get 
your ideas and 
contributions on this.