Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
On Nov 25, 2004, at 2:56 AM, Christian Geisert wrote:
The Web Maestro wrote:
[..]
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing the xml-fop/build/
folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My reasoning for this is
two-fold: 1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent a
significant amount of time to re-create).
The generated website should actually be commited to the xml-site
repository (targets/fop) and the live site updated from there.
Sorry, no more time right now (hopefully I'll get some this evening)
Christian
I'm having trouble setting this up in CVS. Can you give me more info on
how you would set this up? I've got a working COMMITTERs connection to
CVS, but I can't seem to make it work.
Once I have it set up I'll need to figure out how to transfer from
targets/fop/ to /www/xml.apache.org/fop/.
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Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
The Web Maestro wrote:
[..]
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing the xml-fop/build/
folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My reasoning for this is
two-fold: 1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent a
significant amount of time to re-create).
The generated website should actually be commited to the xml-site
repository (targets/fop) and the live site updated from there.
Sorry, no more time right now (hopefully I'll get some this evening)
Christian
Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
On Nov 24, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Peter B. West wrote: Clay, Let me say, Clay, thank you *very*, *very* much for taking care of the alt-design tab. Have I drawn your attention to the fact that I am *very happy* that you have taken care of this? (I have thanked Clay personally out-of-band for his work on this.) Peter You are welcome, Peter. Thank you for your kind words! I am just glad to finally be done with that process. FWIW fop-dev, I created a mini-site of alt.design and put it on my home page: http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/defoe/ (the only change, is that I skinned it, and created the few Forrest-specific files: forrest.properties, skinconf.xml, site.xml tabs.xml). I also zipped it up: http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/defoe.zip Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
Yeah, Glen...
On Nov 23, 2004, at 8:18 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
Clay,
I'm noticing a lot of .zips and .bak backup files in our cvs
directories [1] -- this seems unnecessary and a bit messy for a
version control system, as everyone who cvs checkouts or cvs
updates is now downloading these files. Instead of zip files,
usually the solution is just to cvs remove the files -- they will
automatically go into the cvs attic as a result (they are not actually
deleted -- ViewCVS lists them as dead but they are always still
retrievable.)
For backup files, we can always go to older versions by clicking on
the first column in ViewCVS ([2], for an example version list). So I
don't think we have a need for creating any .bak files either. If
there is a message you wish to store with a particular version before
moving forward, just make a *very* minor change to the file (say, move
a character or add a blank line), and add your comment when you cvs
commit.
Can we get these zip's and bak's removed? Just cvs remove them --
get them in the attic so people aren't downloading them on a cvs
checkout.
I actually added those, so they'd be put in the attic... I'd intended
to remove them shortly thereafter but I've been a bit busy with...
erm... other stuff. Thanks for the 'ping' about it!
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing the xml-fop/build/
folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My reasoning for this is
two-fold: 1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent a
significant amount of time to re-create).
2. it can serve as off-line of documentation (for those installations
not connected to the internet).
We may not need to do this since it *is* on minotaur.apache.org...
BTW -- thanks *very* much for taking care of the alt-design tab, I
greatly appreciate the effort in simplifying our site.
Glad to be of service. If there are other things which anyone thinks
can improve the site (e.g. consolidating pages, removing
moved/incorrect/inappropriate content, etc.) please let me know.
Thanks,
Glen
[1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/
[2]
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/build.bat?rev=1.22view=log
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Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
On Nov 24, 2004, at 11:52 AM, The Web Maestro wrote:
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing the xml-fop/build/
folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My reasoning for this is
two-fold:
1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent a significant amount
of time to re-create).
2. it can serve as off-line of documentation (for those installations
not connected to the internet).
We may not need to do this since it *is* on minotaur.apache.org...
I meant to ask FOP-DEV... what are your thoughts on my COMMITTING
xml-fop's Forrest-generated build/ directory structure?
Web Maestro Clay
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
- HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
--- The Web Maestro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 24, 2004, at 11:52 AM, The Web Maestro wrote:
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing
the xml-fop/build/
folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My
reasoning for this is
two-fold:
1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent
a significant amount
of time to re-create).
2. it can serve as off-line of documentation (for
those installations
not connected to the internet).
We may not need to do this since it *is* on
minotaur.apache.org...
I meant to ask FOP-DEV... what are your thoughts on
my COMMITTING
xml-fop's Forrest-generated build/ directory
structure?
For #1) Wouldn't we have to keep doing that whenever a
change is made to the website as a result? I'm
concerned with it falling out of sync with the
production website.
Also, the output on minotaur should be viewable via
ViewCVS anyway, correct? (We were doing manual
updates to the website to fix the breadcrumb issue--we
went through ViewCVS to find the correct pages to
update IIRC.)
For #2) Oh ye of little faith! ;) Aren't we eventually
going to have a full-site PDF anyway? Then
non-internet installations can just save a copy of the
PDF locally after they download the software. (I
guess they have to be connected at some time to the
'Net though...) Perhaps saving the full site PDF once
we get it may be more efficient.
Glen
RE: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
-Original Message-
From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- The Web Maestro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing
the xml-fop/build/ folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6).
My reasoning for this is two-fold:
1. it contains the FOP web site (which I've spent
a significant amount of time to re-create).
Hmm... since we already offer the source XML for generating the
website --correct?--, wouldn't it be sufficient to point those interested to
Forrest if they want to build the documentation locally? (Maybe even provide
an Ant build-target, of course depending on the presence of Apache Forrest
in the target environment... analogous to the 'javadoc' target)
Those who do not want to take the time, or are unwilling to learn to use
Forrest can still admire the site in all its glory online.
Just a thought.
Greetz,
Andreas
Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
On Nov 24, 2004, at 1:39 PM, The Web Maestro wrote: On Nov 24, 2004, at 1:16 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: snip Also, the output on minotaur should be viewable via ViewCVS anyway, correct? (We were doing manual updates to the website to fix the breadcrumb issue--we went through ViewCVS to find the correct pages to update IIRC.) Sort of. minotaur is a different location (actually I believe minotaur does both, but the *web site* is a different location... the rest of my comment is unchanged) Also, Andreas is correct that the site is built from the source (and I didn't forget that! ;-)). As long as the wholesite files are turned off, you get a BUILD SUCCESSFUL(!) at the end of a Forrest run. Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
RE: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
-Original Message- From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, Andreas is correct that the site is built from the source (and I didn't forget that! ;-)). Yeah, make them sweat at least as hard as you --that way, your effort will be even more appreciated :-) Greetz, Andreas
Re: Unnecessary zipping and backups?
The Web Maestro wrote: BTW -- thanks *very* much for taking care of the alt-design tab, I greatly appreciate the effort in simplifying our site. Glad to be of service. If there are other things which anyone thinks can improve the site (e.g. consolidating pages, removing moved/incorrect/inappropriate content, etc.) please let me know. Clay, Let me say, Clay, thank you *very*, *very* much for taking care of the alt-design tab. Have I drawn your attention to the fact that I am *very happy* that you have taken care of this? (I have thanked Clay personally out-of-band for his work on this.) Peter
