[GT2006] Call for IDEAS! The 5th Cocoon GetTogether: October 2nd to 4th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Hi fop folks, Thanks for your interest in the Cocoon GetTogether. I'd love to welcome you in Amsterdam! Also, please, feel free to join our Hackaton; the more bright spirits together the better. I'm forwarding you the Call for IDEAS note that I sent to the Cocoon-dev, user, Lenya, Forrest and Daisy lists. The message is very Cocoon-minded, but please read it as if it's a good old xml(graphics).apache.org GetTogether ;) . If you feel like attending and wish to organize some sessions, I'll be happy to make it a broader conference and include FOP. Your project is great and if we can leverage your development efforts by giving you a spot, I'd be happy to do so! Regards, Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ooOOoo We need your ideas! What would YOU like to see at this year's Cocoon GetTogether??? This year's Cocoon conference will be held again in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, from Monday, October 2nd, until Wednesday, October 4th. Faster and funkier than ever! The GetTogether event runs as a series of presentations on different aspects of Apache Cocoon. Several short tracks will give you insight on all aspects of Cocoon, from generator to serializer and from CForms to AJAX, packed with with real success stories and best practices. There's plenty of time for interaction and probing questions. Whether you're a Cocoon developer or user, either expert, beginner, or only curious, this event is for you. Want to know more about the technology and the people behind it? Come join us at this year's Cocoon GetTogether in Amsterdam! But first, we'd like to hear everyone's ideas on WHAT you would really, *really* like to see: * Which parts of Cocoon would you like to see demonstrated? * Which bits of code would you like to see projected on a huge screen in big, *big* letters, with the author right next to it, explaining you exactly how and *why* he wrote it like that? * Which parts of Cocoon do you find utterly complicated and would you like to get some help with? * What would you like your boss to get demonstrated? (convince him to use Cocoon :-) ) * ...maybe you've got some Cocoon wizardry yourself to share at the Lightning Lottery Talks? Everyone is free to send in a list of subjects for which he or she would travel all the way to Amsterdam. There's no program yet. This year's program is up to YOU - so send in those ideas! Here's a couple of them to get you started: - Success stories (why someone chose Cocoon, for what, what was great and what not?) - Comparison of Cocoon with other web frameworks - Why should I upgrade to 2.2? - Some howto's / best practices for - Configuration - Using Spring - Building Cocoon - 10 Reasons to use Cocoon - A What's new in 2.2 and how to use it track with different topics, 5 to 10min per topic. - What's up for Cocoon 3.0? - The Funky Cocoon AJAX tour (with lots of samples!) - A short (!!) introduction to OSGi (what's all that fuzz about?!) - Practical case studies, where people show how they are using Cocoon, the high-level architecture of their apps, what they're integrating Cocoon with, what makes their app unique, etc. We could to 20+10 (20 minutes prez, 10 minutes questions) slots for this, and have at least 4 or 6 of them during the day. We're all using Cocoon in wildly different ways, which is one of its major strengths - let's show this at this year's GetTogether! Please add your thoughts! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: keep...=always and Knuth penalties
I've just written to the XSL SG. Hopefully, the question gets answered this time. On 22.06.2006 10:40:36 Peter B. West wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 16:50 +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Have you tried the Disposition of Comments? I don't know how accessible they are to Google. They are accessible through the list archive at W3C. I've looked at those I found but I found no listing of all XSL-related ones. Jeremias, I'm not sure that they are accessible. The only way I've ever been able to find them is by following links from messages in the xsl-editors list. It's not a big deal for me; I'll go with always=always. If you need it resolved, you might be best to write to the editors. Paul Grosso will probably respond quickly. Peter Jeremias Maerki
DO NOT REPLY [Bug 39870] - Some content could not fit into a line/page
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 39840] - Multi page table fails with an endless loop error message
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Re: Invitation to Cocoon's GetTogether
Sure, travel and accomodation will produce some expenses but you're forgetting the rather high fee for attending ApacheCon (for mere mortals like normal committers, for example) which (sadly) caused many people not to go there. I hope that'll be better next time. There will probably be at least a small fee even for ASF members in the interest of making it a little cheaper for non-members. On 04.07.2006 17:24:10 Christian Geisert wrote: Jeremias Maerki schrieb: I've been approached by Arje Cahn during ApacheCon. He invited me to the yearly Cocoon GetTogether which (I think) will be in the week before ApacheCon US in November. I assume this will be in Amsterdam again. I'm thinking about going and maybe talking about FOP. There will also be a two-day hackathon and since we have at least two committers from the Netherlands/Belgium region it might be a good idea to join them and do our own FOP hackathon there. Could be a good opportunity for a face-to-face. Will also be a lot cheaper than ApacheCon. :-) I don't think that travel/accomodation will be much cheaper but it should be easier to travel to Amsterdam (by train or even by car instead of plane) than to Dublin (at least for me ;-). Anyway, I think it's a great idea and i'll certainly try to be there. -- Christian Jeremias Maerki
DO NOT REPLY [Bug 39980] - Images not scaled in RTF, FOP 0.92b
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Re: Text baseline in the MathML extension?
This is a known problem. Please dig through the mailing list archives.
Gennadiy Tsarenkov has started some work last year to improve JEuclid
itself. He mentioned this problem. Obviously, we will need to extend FOP
just a little so a FOP extension for fo:instream-foreign-object and
fo:external-graphic can report the position of the baseline. Maybe you
can work with Gennadiy to fix this.
On 09.07.2006 22:15:27 Ryan Saunders wrote:
Hello,
First of all, I realize that the MathML extension is a work
in progress, and thus, the current design may be different
than what I'm looking at (the mathml example that comes
with the fop 0.92 beta).
That said, I'm concerned that the approach used by this
extension is going to have some problems. In the current
scheme, MathML is converted to SVG by jeuclid, and the
resulting SVG is then laid out like any other graphic.
Ignoring, for the moment, the fact that JEuclid seems to
give incorrect bounds for some equations, there is also
another problem: the text baseline. The solution of
converting to SVG and treating it like an image works OK
for block-display equations, but for inline-display
equations it does not. Consider a simple mathematical
expression 'i_0' ('i' with a '0' subscript). The i's
baseline should be consistent with the text around it,
while the zero's baseline should be slightly below the main
text baseline. But this scheme for integrating fop/jeuclid
would instead put the zero's baseline consistent with the
surrounding text.
Perhaps you're already aware of this, but as a fop user who
would like to see robust equation support, I thought it
worth pointing out.
Thanks,
Ryan
Jeremias Maerki
Error message: Should be first
One of my clients reported to me that he gets a Should be first error message on the log. This happens in (Page)BreakingAlgorithm.removeNode(). I get the impression that the code there is not finished rather than that is a real error condition. I'll try to extend removeNode() so it really removes the disabled node. See the attached demo file (You'll need italian hyphenation available to get the error). I'll try to fix that tomorrow. If Luca or anyone else has any further comments on that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Jeremias Maerki CH00695663_all_font2.fo Description: Binary data
Re: Error message: Should be first
One of my clients reported to me that he gets a Should be first error message on the log. This happens in (Page)BreakingAlgorithm.removeNode(). I get the impression that the code there is not finished rather than that is a real error condition. I'll try to extend removeNode() so it really removes the disabled node. See the attached demo file (You'll need italian hyphenation available to get the error). I'll try to fix that tomorrow. If Luca or anyone else has any further comments on that, I'd appreciate it. I don't have any error with this file. However, I've had to change the font names because i_helvetica is unknown. I've tried with Helvetica and Helvetica + font-style=italic (as I suppose is what the i_ means) but I still don't get any error. How did you get it? Regarding the should be first error, that's a part of the algorithm I don't completely understand, yet. That said, the removeNode method is called, among other places, in filterActiveNodes. This is only a guess, but if there is a place where the removeNode's precondition isn't respected, that might be here. HTH, Vincent
DO NOT REPLY [Bug 39709] - [PATCH] Preview Panel not Window
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 39983] - AWTRenderer should not call System.exit().
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