Column Width

2005-02-11 Thread jeb501
Hi All,

If I use the below code, I am getting 2 columns of equal width, and if 
want to get 

unequal columns, what should I have to do..
 
fo:region-body
margin-top=1in margin-bottom=1in
column-count=2 column-gap=0.25in/

Any reply greatly appreciated.

Regards
Eugene


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Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then create PDF from that. 

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode (HTML equivalent) 
#29699;#36187;#32534;#21495;

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?

regards
Manisha

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Sorry: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
Sorry, wrong post

answer was givenin my last post

regards
ManishaManisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then create PDF from that. 

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode (HTML equivalent) 
#29699;#36187;#32534;#21495;

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?

regards
Manisha



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RE: Column Width

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Hi,
Alternatively you can use tables rather than column in region-body.
You will have greater options with tables.
I always use tables.
Cheers.
Arun

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Subject: Column Width
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:10:06 +0530
Hi All,
If I use the below code, I am getting 2 columns of equal width, and if
want to get
unequal columns, what should I have to do..
fo:region-body
margin-top=1in margin-bottom=1in
column-count=2 column-gap=0.25in/
Any reply greatly appreciated.
Regards
Eugene
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RE: Column Width

2005-02-11 Thread jeb501
I also have that idea in back of my mind,  but I thought region-body will 
be

flexible,

Thanks for the immediate response.

Eugene



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Alternatively you can use tables rather than column in region-body.

You will have greater options with tables.

I always use tables.

Cheers.

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Hi All,

If I use the below code, I am getting 2 columns of equal width, and if
want to get

unequal columns, what should I have to do..

fo:region-body
 margin-top=1in margin-bottom=1in
 column-count=2 column-gap=0.25in/

Any reply greatly appreciated.

Regards
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Outline

2005-02-11 Thread jeb501
Hi All,

What is code/tag to be used to draw a border or outline on the page

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Instream base64 svg jpeg produces huge pdf document.

2005-02-11 Thread Burlock, Craig (SAPOL)
Title: Instream base64 svg jpeg produces huge pdf document.





I am trying to produce a pdf document which contains a jpeg image that has been generated using svg with base64 data. The approach does work, however the final pdf document is huge! An essentially empty document with a single 40Kb jpeg image produces a 1Mb pdf document. Is this behaviour normal?

This is the only time I'm using svg. My xsl-fo does'nt include any svg text.

Below is an extract of my fop. Am I doing something wrong?

fo:instream-foreign-object content-type=content-type:image/jpeg

 svg:svg height=176mm width=277mm

 svg:image width=277mm height=176mm x=0 y=0 xlink:href="" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAoHBwgHBgoICAgLCgoL . . . . / 

 /svg:svg

/fo:instream-foreign-object

This project involved accessing image data which is only available from the session. I tried writing a servlet, but was unable to see the correct session from within the servlet.

Can anyone help me? I'd hate to abandon fop and produce nasty html reports after getting this far!




valign query

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
I am having a table with some cells (with border) but all text inside my table aligns to the top - i.e. comes verynear to border. I want the text to be vertically alignedat center 

How can i achieve it?

regards
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2005-02-11 Thread Chandrasekhar Sanku








Hi All,



 I have a problem with memory. 



 I need to generate a document with 3000
images (0.2 - 0.5 MB each image approximately) and my intermediate XML file
size is 3MB (approx).

I am trying to generate the document in microsoft windows XP
machine(p4) having 1GB RAM.



 When I try to generate the document with
my xsl, its giving out of memory problem.



 Any suggestions please





Thanks  Regards,

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RE: valign query

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Hi Manisha,
You need to use display-align.
Cheers.
Arun

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Subject: valign query
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:01:15 -0800 (PST)
I am having a table with some cells (with border) but all text inside my 
table aligns to the top - i.e. comes very near to border. I want the text 
to be vertically aligned at center

How can i achieve it?
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Getting a runtime exception

2005-02-11 Thread Shirsendu Sengupta
Hi,

I am using the FOP-0.20.5 version in my code to generate the XML data
to PDF file. I am trying to run a servlet for the conversion
on-the-fly.
But I am getting a Runtime exception at the time I am instantiating
the Driver in the following way:

try {
   org.apache.fop.apps.Driver driver = new org.apache.fop.apps.Driver();

...
...

}

It is giving me the follwoing Runtime Exception:
java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
at org.apache.fop.svg.SVGElementMapping.setupSVG(SVGElementMapping.java:72)
at org.apache.fop.svg.SVGElementMapping.addToBuilder(SVGElementMapping.java:134)
at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.addElementMapping(Driver.java:439)
at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.addElementMapping(Driver.java:450)
at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.setupDefaultMappings(Driver.java:314)
at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.init(Driver.java:222)
... 36 more
Caused by: java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for
base name org.apache.batik.util.resources.XMLResourceDescriptor,
locale en_US
at 
java.util.ResourceBundle.throwMissingResourceException(ResourceBundle.java:804)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundleImpl(ResourceBundle.java:773)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:538)
at 
org.apache.batik.util.XMLResourceDescriptor.clinit(XMLResourceDescriptor.java:57)
... 46 more

I have batik.jar in my classpath as well as the fop.jar,
xalan-2.4.1.jar,  avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar which was provided
in
fop-0.20.5-bin.zip in the site http://apache.247available.com/xml/fop/

I have searched a lot in Google, but I didn;t find any answer which
actually solve my problem.

Can you please help me out?

thanks
Shirsendu

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Why none replies to FOA experience

2005-02-11 Thread Subbiah



I have never got a 
single reply whenver I ask an question on FOA. I know this is FOP mailing list 
but only the guys on FOP will ever think of using FOA so definately this is 
worth asking here and I have been on this is list for quite some time and it is 
quite active. So please do care to reply :)

I am asking out 
curiousity as I tried using FOA but could never get it to do all tha fancy 
invoice example stuff that comes along with it. I searched and found a GUI that 
makes my FOP from xmlspy but tha problem is that I cannot diddle with the 
generated source after I make my FOP as that tool wont read files modified by 
hand.Just wanted to know if some uses FOA to make such documents which 
means I am making a mistake somewhere


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RE: Outline

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Hi
Its border-top-style, border-left-style, border-bottom-style and 
border-right-style.

Hope the above helps.
Cheers.
Arun
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:55:44 +0530
Hi All,
What is code/tag to be used to draw a border or outline on the page
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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
Hi all,

i want to display some chinese characters. I am tryingfollowing unicodes. These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these characters. 

#29699;#36187;#32534;#21495;

I tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make use off ?

regards
Manisha



Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry, wrong post

answer was givenin my last post

regards
ManishaManisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then create PDF from that. 

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode (HTML equivalent) 
#29699;#36187;#32534;#21495;

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?

regards
Manisha



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RE: valign query

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
Oh! Thanks Arun, it works,

regards,
ManishaArun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Manisha,You need to use display-align.Cheers.ArunFrom: Manisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: valign queryDate: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:01:15 -0800 (PST)I am having a table with some cells (with border) but all text inside my table aligns to the top - i.e. comes very near to border. I want the text to be vertically aligned at centerHow can i achieve it?regardsManisha-Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less._Manage information better. Optimise your tasks.
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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Hi,
Try setting font family to MS Hei or MS Song.
Cheers.
Arun

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Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)
Hi all,
i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following unicodes. 
These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these 
characters.

ÇòÈü±àºÅ
I tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make 
use off ?

regards
Manisha

Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, wrong post
answer was given in my last post
regards
Manisha
Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then 
create PDF from that.

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode 
(HTML equivalent)
ÇòÈü±àºÅ

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?
regards
Manisha

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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Manisha Sathe
hmm..

it's giving me 'unknown font' for both. is there any way for it ? Whether it means that on my m/c need to have these fonts ?

regards
ManishaArun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,Try setting font family to "MS Hei" or "MS Song".Cheers.ArunFrom: Manisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)Hi all,i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following unicodes. These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these characters.ÇòÈü±àºÅI tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make use off ?regardsManishaManisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Sorry, wrong postanswer was given in my last
 postregardsManishaManisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then create PDF from that.I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode (HTML equivalent)ÇòÈü±àºÅBut i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?regardsManisha-Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'-Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.-Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! ¨C Try it today!_The real power of teamwork. Experience it in real time.
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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Yes.
You need those fonts on your machine.
Arun

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:13:43 -0800 (PST)
hmm..
it's giving me 'unknown font' for both. is there any way for it ? Whether 
it means that on my m/c need to have these fonts ?

regards
Manisha
Arun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Try setting font family to MS Hei or MS Song.
Cheers.
Arun
From: Manisha Sathe
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)

Hi all,

i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following 
unicodes.
These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these
characters.

ÇòÈü±àºÅ

I tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make
use off ?

regards
Manisha




Manisha Sathe wrote:
Sorry, wrong post

answer was given in my last post

regards
Manisha

Manisha Sathe wrote:
What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then
create PDF from that.

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode
(HTML equivalent)
ÇòÈü±àºÅ

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?

regards
Manisha



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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Hi,
You may need the following too.
Register Fonts with FOP
You must tell FOP how to find and use the font metrics files by registering 
them in the FOP Configuration. Add entries for your custom fonts, regardless 
of font type, to the configuration file in a manner similar to the 
following:

font metrics-file=FTL_.xml kerning=yes
 embed-file=C:\myfonts\FTL_.pfb
 font-triplet name=FrutigerLight style=normal weight=normal/
/font
Change the values above as per your requirement.
Cheers.
Arun

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:13:43 -0800 (PST)
hmm..
it's giving me 'unknown font' for both. is there any way for it ? Whether 
it means that on my m/c need to have these fonts ?

regards
Manisha
Arun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Try setting font family to MS Hei or MS Song.
Cheers.
Arun
From: Manisha Sathe
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)

Hi all,

i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following 
unicodes.
These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these
characters.

ÇòÈü±àºÅ

I tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make
use off ?

regards
Manisha




Manisha Sathe wrote:
Sorry, wrong post

answer was given in my last post

regards
Manisha

Manisha Sathe wrote:
What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then
create PDF from that.

I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode
(HTML equivalent)
ÇòÈü±àºÅ

But i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?

regards
Manisha



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Re: Getting a runtime exception

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Sounds like a class loader problem. In these cases it's often helpful to
know which web container you're running and how you set up your web
application.

Try running the sample web application coming with FOP (see
examples/servlet in the FOP distribution) using an FO file with SVG in
it (because the problem happens withing batik.jar). If that works you
have to compare what's different in your web application.

You could also try putting batik.jar higher in the class loader
hierarchy, for example in the commons/lib directory if you're running
Tomcat.

On 11.02.2005 05:45:07 Shirsendu Sengupta wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using the FOP-0.20.5 version in my code to generate the XML data
 to PDF file. I am trying to run a servlet for the conversion
 on-the-fly.
 But I am getting a Runtime exception at the time I am instantiating
 the Driver in the following way:
 
 try {
org.apache.fop.apps.Driver driver = new org.apache.fop.apps.Driver();
 
 ...
 ...
 
 }
 
 It is giving me the follwoing Runtime Exception:
 java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
 at org.apache.fop.svg.SVGElementMapping.setupSVG(SVGElementMapping.java:72)
 at 
 org.apache.fop.svg.SVGElementMapping.addToBuilder(SVGElementMapping.java:134)
 at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.addElementMapping(Driver.java:439)
 at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.addElementMapping(Driver.java:450)
 at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.setupDefaultMappings(Driver.java:314)
 at org.apache.fop.apps.Driver.init(Driver.java:222)
 ... 36 more
 Caused by: java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for
 base name org.apache.batik.util.resources.XMLResourceDescriptor,
 locale en_US
 at 
 java.util.ResourceBundle.throwMissingResourceException(ResourceBundle.java:804)
 at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundleImpl(ResourceBundle.java:773)
 at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:538)
 at 
 org.apache.batik.util.XMLResourceDescriptor.clinit(XMLResourceDescriptor.java:57)
 ... 46 more
 
 I have batik.jar in my classpath as well as the fop.jar,
 xalan-2.4.1.jar,  avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar which was provided
 in
 fop-0.20.5-bin.zip in the site http://apache.247available.com/xml/fop/
 
 I have searched a lot in Google, but I didn;t find any answer which
 actually solve my problem.
 
 Can you please help me out?

Jeremias Maerki


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Re: Instream base64 svg jpeg produces huge pdf document.

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
You're probably a victim of the 72dpi bitmap scaling. Since you have the
image as an RFC2397 URL you had to use Batik to load the image as FOP
doesn't support that URL scheme.

One thing you could do is find a Java implementation of RFC2397 which
plugs into Java's own URL handler mechanism. A quick Google search
didn't show any, though. Batik implements RFC2397 in a non-standard way
but maybe you could write a wrapper around it to still provide a normal
Java URL handler as described here:
http://java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/protocolhandlers/

Sascha Schmidt posted something like this last year. I haven't looked at
it, though:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgId=1892793

This way you could use an fo:external-graphic instead of an SVG wrapper
which should solve your problem with PDF size.

Hope that helps.

On 11.02.2005 05:55:52 Burlock, Craig (SAPOL) wrote:
 I am trying to produce a pdf document which contains a jpeg image that has
 been generated using svg with base64 data.  The approach does work, however
 the final pdf document is huge!  An essentially empty document with a single
 40Kb jpeg image produces a 1Mb pdf document.  Is this behaviour normal?
 
 This is the only time I'm using svg.  My xsl-fo does'nt include any svg
 text.
 
 Below is an extract of my fop.  Am I doing something wrong?
 
 fo:instream-foreign-object content-type=content-type:image/jpeg
   svg:svg height=176mm width=277mm
 svg:image width=277mm height=176mm x=0 y=0
 xlink:href=data:image/jpeg;base64,
 /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAoHBwgHBgoICAgLCgoL . . . . / 
   /svg:svg
 /fo:instream-foreign-object
 
 This project involved accessing image data which is only available from the
 session.  I tried writing a servlet, but was unable to see the correct
 session from within the servlet.
 
 Can anyone help me?  I'd hate to abandon fop and produce nasty html reports
 after getting this far!



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RE: Outline

2005-02-11 Thread jeb501
Please post a sample script, I do not where to include these attributes.
ie whether to include inside fo:table 



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Its border-top-style, border-left-style, border-bottom-style and 
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Hope the above helps.

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Hi All,

What is code/tag to be used to draw a border or outline on the page

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Re: URGENT:::::: OUT OF MEMORY

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Try this: http://xml.apache.org/fop/faq.html#OutOfMemoryException

On 11.02.2005 07:05:11 Chandrasekhar Sanku wrote:
 Hi All,
  
 I have a problem with memory. 
  
 I need to generate a document with 3000 images (0.2 - 0.5 MB each image
 approximately) and my intermediate XML file size is 3MB (approx).
 
 I am trying to generate the document in microsoft windows XP machine(p4)
 having 1GB RAM.
  
 When I try to generate the document with my xsl, its giving out of
 memory problem.
  
 Any suggestions please.


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Re: Why none replies to FOA experience

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Let's just say that everybody I know who has tried FOA removed it from
his/her machine after a rather short time.

If you need help with FOA please ask the FOA team.

On 11.02.2005 07:38:36 Subbiah wrote:
 I have never got a single reply whenver I ask an question on FOA. I know
 this is FOP mailing list but only the guys on FOP will ever think of using
 FOA so definately this is worth asking here and I have been on this is list
 for quite some time and it is quite active. So please do care to reply :)
  
 I am asking out curiousity as I tried using FOA but could never get it to do
 all tha fancy invoice example stuff that comes along with it. I searched and
 found a GUI that makes my FOP from xmlspy but tha problem is that I cannot
 diddle with the generated source after I make my FOP as that tool wont read
 files modified by hand. Just wanted to know if some uses FOA to make such
 documents which means I am making a mistake somewhere



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Re: Outline

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Try using absolutely positioned block-containers with borders on them.
There are no direct attributes to create a page border.

On 11.02.2005 05:25:44 jeb501 wrote:
 What is code/tag to be used to draw a border or outline on the page


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RE: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Pascal Sancho
Hi,

You can find howto add your own fonts at http://xml.apache.org/fop/fonts.html.
This can be summed up as follows:
1. get font files (type 1 or true type)
2. make metric file (using either PFMReader or TTFReader)
3. make your own config file
4. enjoy!

Pascal
 

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 You may need the following too.
 
 Register Fonts with FOP
 You must tell FOP how to find and use the font metrics files 
 by registering them in the FOP Configuration. Add entries for 
 your custom fonts, regardless of font type, to the 
 configuration file in a manner similar to the
 following:
 
 font metrics-file=FTL_.xml kerning=yes
   embed-file=C:\myfonts\FTL_.pfb
   font-triplet name=FrutigerLight style=normal 
 weight=normal/ /font
 
 Change the values above as per your requirement.
 
 From: Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?
 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:13:43 -0800 (PST)
 
 it's giving me 'unknown font' for both. is there any way for it ? 
 Whether it means that on my m/c need to have these fonts ?
 
 Arun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Try setting font family to MS Hei or MS Song.
 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 supported by FOP ?
  Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)
  
  i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following
 unicodes.
  These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these 
  characters.
  
  I tried many different fonts but still the same. Which 
 font shall i 
  make use off ?


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Newspaper layout

2005-02-11 Thread Christian Loock
Hi everybody,

i'd like to know if there is some way to easily create an
multiple-column layout in xsl-fo as it is used in newspapers (the text
starting on the next column if it reaches the end of the previous
coloumn).

Is there any way to realize this without using fixed tables?

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Re: Why none replies to FOA experience

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Bowditch
Subbiah wrote:
I have never got a single reply whenver I ask an question on FOA. I know 
this is FOP mailing list but only the guys on FOP will ever think of 
using FOA so definately this is worth asking here and I have been on 
this is list for quite some time and it is quite active. So please do 
care to reply :)
Well, I havent tried the later versions of it, but when I tried it a couple of 
years ago I thought it had a very clunky interface which got in the way of 
doing what I wanted. So I went back to creating XSL-FO in Xml Spy.

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are there alternatives to Apache FOP?

2005-02-11 Thread Kai Hackemesser
Hello, all,

I am looking for a good FO-PDF converter. I tried so far FOP from Apache,
but it looks like it currently doesn't support all features I would like to
use (for example all border styles I tried result in solid borders, and the
border collapsing sometimes doesn't look nice) 

So what are the currently available alternatives?

Regards,
Kai

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RE: are there alternatives to Apache FOP?

2005-02-11 Thread Arun Sinha
Sorry,
I should have said Formatter. Not Transformer.
Arun

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Hi,
Have a look on following :-
http://www.antennahouse.com/
I have not used it but I found it during my search for
a transformer.
Cheers.
Arun

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Hello, all,
I am looking for a good FO-PDF converter. I tried so far FOP from Apache,
but it looks like it currently doesn't support all features I would like 
to
use (for example all border styles I tried result in solid borders, and 
the
border collapsing sometimes doesn't look nice)

So what are the currently available alternatives?
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Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?

2005-02-11 Thread Manoj_Nair
ManishaYou need to make use of userconfig.xml. Create font metrics file and register it with FOP. I have done this with Japanese characters and it works fine..ThanksManoj-Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Manisha Sathe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 02/10/2005 11:13PMSubject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?hmm..it's giving me 'unknown font' for both. is there any way for it ? Whether it means that on my m/c need to have these fonts ?regardsManishaArun Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi,Try setting font family to "MS Hei" or "MS Song".Cheers.ArunFrom: Manisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Whether Chinese Characters / Unicode supported by FOP ?Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:43:25 -0800 (PST)Hi all,i want to display some chinese characters. I am trying following unicodes. These get display in HTML properly. But in pdf i do not get these characters.ÇòÈü±àºÅI tried many different fonts but still the same. Which font shall i make use off ?regardsManishaManisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Sorry, wrong postanswer was given in my last postregardsManishaManisha Sathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:What i am doing is - taking data from database - put inside XML and then create PDF from that.I also need to print chinese characters. I tried first with some unicode (HTML equivalent)ÇòÈü±àºÅBut i am not getting this in PDF, what's the solution for this ?regardsManisha-Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term't;-Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.-Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! ¨C Try it today!_The real power of teamwork. Experience it in real time. http://www.microsoft.com/india/office/experience/ Experience MS Office System.-To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

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Fop servlet crash after some days

2005-02-11 Thread Cédric Augustin
Hello,

1) The problem :
The servlet crash after few days (some time 3, some time 20). In the tomcat
logs, we get the following error :
StandardWrapperValve[Fop]: Servlet.service() pour la servlet Fop a généré
une exception java.lang.OutOfMemoryError

We have to restart Tomcat.
On an older server, with a smaller processor, the same java and same tomcat,
the servlet never crash (with less activity too).

2)The context :
I am succesfully using fop servlet to generate on fly pdf file. The file are
between 100Kb to 1Mb, with 1 to 3 pages. Most of the zize comme from the
inclued images (3 to 9 photos in print quality size). The servlet produce
about 15 PDF file per hours.

When tomcat start, and after some run of fop servlet, the java process are
arround 30Mb and increase all the time.

3) What we try :
We tought the problem come from the image cache. We run a script who ask for
a static fo file modified with PHP to change all the image urls by adding a
timestamp to avoid fop image cache. The shell script loop 1000 time and is
running 3 or more time. If the script wait 2s beetwen each fop generation,
the memory usage go to 158Mb for each java process and stay stable. fop does
not crash. 

If the script don't wait, the memory consumption increase very fast to 273Mb
for each java process, many process crash and tomcat create new process. The
servlet become unstable and at the end do not respond anymore.

The second test where the script don't wait has no real word equivalent. The
first script waiting 2s look like the reality.

3) Detailled question :
I do not reset the image cache because of Internet explorer who use to call
2 times an url to download the pdf. By caching the image, the second
generation is very short.
I thought fop is caching all photos and growing in memory size, but our test
can not reproduce the crash in the same situation. We see the memory
consumption increasing and the garbage collector never run.

Do I have to manualy reset the fop image cache or does fop reset itself ?
If i create a dedicated method in my servlet to reset the cache should I
take care about anything special ?
My cheef don't think it's the image cache the problem, do you have any
suggestion to investigate ?

Thank by advance for your advices.


Cédric Augustin

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Re: are there alternatives to Apache FOP?

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Bowditch
Kai Hackemesser wrote:
Hello, all,
I am looking for a good FO-PDF converter. I tried so far FOP from Apache,
but it looks like it currently doesn't support all features I would like to
use (for example all border styles I tried result in solid borders, and the
border collapsing sometimes doesn't look nice) 

So what are the currently available alternatives?
Well there are a few commercial alternatives, the most established being;
- Antenna House has already been mentioned,
- RenderX's XEP www.renderx.com
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Improving FOP Performance?

2005-02-11 Thread Ram Krishnamoorthi
Hello,
We are using FOP to convert to generate PDF Invoices
for our Customers. We need to generate roughly around
25,000 Invoices Per Month and the Number would
increase each Month. We generate PDF Docs from XML
Input Files. We had Trial runs to check for
Performance and Memory usage.
Currently, We are just invoking FOP command directly
from a Shell Script which would call the FOP Command
repeatedly but making sure that not more than 2 (or
sometimes 3) FOP Processes are running at any instant.


I would like to have your opinion on the Performance
that we observe here. The Test Machine we run FOP on
has 2 CPUs and 4 GB RAM. Our Production Machine that
we would be running FOP on soon has 4 CPUs though

(1) In our case, An Invoice could have Several
Individual Sections. The Number of Sections could vary
from 10 to as high as 10,000 (depending on the data
present in the XML Input). On an Average, an Invoice
is around 10-20 Pages..while a small % of them exceed
500 Pages. Currently, We have a Page Sequence for 
each Section. We need to include only One Small Image
in each Invoice.

(2) There is a need to keep certain information
together in the same page, so I have used Tables
often..on an Average an Invoice could have around
50-60 Tables, But the Tables are not big (2 or 3 rows)
and have only one or 2 columns utmost. I do understand
Tables take up more memory..do they Impact Performance
significantly?

(3) I am using xsl:for-each in 3-4 places in the
Stylesheet to loop through nodes with same Tag instead
of using 'Template Match'..does that matter? 

At this Point, I see about 30,000 Pages being
generated in an Hour if I run 2 threads. I have not
embedded FOP in a Java Program Yet..Plan to do that..I
have seen 1 or 2 messages mentioning that Caching a
Stylesheet would help. Can someone share their
experience by doing that?

Are their other means to Improve Performance?   

Thanks for your assistance
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RE: [***SPAM***] - Improving FOP Performance? - Bayesian Filter d etected spam

2005-02-11 Thread Jesiolowski, Dominik

 Hello,
 We are using FOP to convert to generate PDF Invoices
 for our Customers. We need to generate roughly around
 25,000 Invoices Per Month and the Number would
 increase each Month. We generate PDF Docs from XML
 Input Files. We had Trial runs to check for
 Performance and Memory usage.
 Currently, We are just invoking FOP command directly
 from a Shell Script which would call the FOP Command
 repeatedly but making sure that not more than 2 (or
 sometimes 3) FOP Processes are running at any instant.

So you are starting, and stopping JVM, each time
you run fop. Consider writing java app that invokes
fop processing in a loop.

Regards
Dominik

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RE: Improving FOP Performance? -

2005-02-11 Thread Manoj_Nair
I would second Dominik's idead to invoke FOP programatically.Manoj-"Jesiolowski, Dominik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Jesiolowski, Dominik" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 02/11/2005 07:13AMSubject: RE: [***SPAM***] - Improving FOP Performance? - Bayesian Filter d	etected spam Hello, We are using FOP to convert to generate PDF Invoices for our Customers. We need to generate roughly around 25,000 Invoices Per Month and the Number would increase each Month. We generate PDF Docs from XML Input Files. We had Trial runs to check for Performance and Memory usage. Currently, We are just invoking FOP command directly from a Shell Script which would call the FOP Command repeatedly but making sure that not more than 2 (or sometimes 3) FOP Processes are running at any instant.So you are starting, and stopping JVM, each timeyou run fop. Consider writing java app that invokesfop processing in a loop.RegardsDominik-To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Improving FOP Performance? -

2005-02-11 Thread Riz Virk
Yes a third also ...
 
Also, you might want to considering using a servlet engine like tomcat to take 
care of multi-threading issues rather than trying to write your own thread code 
(unless of course you like writing multi-threaded code ...:) .  
 
You would then modify your existing code to invoke the servlet rather than your 
shell script ...  that way you won't have to worry about restarting the jvm as 
tomcat will have it running constantly ... the rest of your code (which limits 
the # of simultaneous transactions to three ) can probably stay the same .. 
 
Thanks,
-Riz
 
 

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I would second Dominik's idead to invoke FOP programatically.
 
Manoj

 

 


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etected spam


 Hello,
 We are using FOP to convert to generate PDF Invoices
 for our Customers. We need to generate roughly around
 25,000 Invoices Per Month and the Number would
 increase each Month. We generate PDF Docs from XML
 Input Files. We had Trial runs to check for
 Performance and Memory usage.
 Currently, We are just invoking FOP command directly
 from a Shell Script which would call the FOP Command
 repeatedly but making sure that not more than 2 (or
 sometimes 3) FOP Processes are running at any instant.

So you are starting, and stopping JVM, each time
you run fop. Consider writing java app that invokes
fop processing in a loop.

Regards
Dominik

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Re: URGENT:::::: OUT OF MEMORY

2005-02-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
Chandrasekhar Sanku wrote:
I need to generate a document with 3000 images (0.2 - 0.5 MB each 
image approximately) and my intermediate XML file size is 3MB (approx).
The images alone take more than half a Gigabyte. I doubt you will
find *any* FO processor which will work on this amount of data in
a reasonable amount of time.
You can try to resort to picewise generation of several PDF and try
to get one of the general PDF tools to merge them without running
out of memory. Don't expect Acrobat Reader to open the resulting
file on a Windows machine with less than 2G memory.
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Re: Fop servlet crash after some days

2005-02-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
Cédric Augustin wrote:
Do I have to manualy reset the fop image cache or does fop reset itself ?
FOP does not reset the image cache. You'll have to call the
FopImageFactory.resetCache() method by yourself. If your image
pool is stable and is small enough that all the images can be kept
in the image cache, you don't need to fiddle with the cache.
Slow changes in the image pool are usually accommodated by weekly
or biweekly server restarts or server downtime for maintenance.
If i create a dedicated method in my servlet to reset the cache should I
take care about anything special ?
Probably not.
My cheef don't think it's the image cache the problem, do you have any
suggestion to investigate ?
There are no known memory leaks in FOP 0.20.5 except for the image
cache and a string buffer used in the PDF renderer, which usually
wont grow beyond a few Kilobytes. Once the Driver object is reclaimed,
all other memory allocated during rendering will be freed to. Be sure
to avoid keeping references to Driver objects you no longer need.
You can try one of the memory debuggers which can be attached to a
running program and which will tell you which objects hang around
in memory. If no redering is in progress and you still see FOP objects
other than FopImage, element mappings/makers and FOP configuration data,
something went wrong. Keep an eye on Java stream objects, specifically
related to configuration data and user font loading.
As a cheap but still efficient measure, you can try DrMem:
 http://java-source.net/open-source/profilers/drmem
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Is it posible to insert a new line in a xml tag to change the view of a PDF file

2005-02-11 Thread Juan Manuel Bellina
For example if I have the following xml tag:

rtcontactoProveedor:063310
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A.

Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848
(1824) -LANUS OESTE
BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA
Fax: 4209-2556/rtcontacto

I want to show in my PDF file with a new line between
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. and Contacto: but when I see
the pdf file I see:

Proveedor:063310 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848 1824) -LANUS OESTE BUENOS AIRES -
ARGENTINA Fax: 4209-2556

How can I insert a new line to make the view diferent
as in the xml tag.
Thank you,

Juan M.

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Re: Is it posible to insert a new line in a xml tag to change the view of a PDF file

2005-02-11 Thread Yakov Shafranovich
Use fo:block/
Juan Manuel Bellina wrote:
For example if I have the following xml tag:
rtcontactoProveedor:063310
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A.
Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848
(1824) -LANUS OESTE
BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA
Fax: 4209-2556/rtcontacto
I want to show in my PDF file with a new line between
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. and Contacto: but when I see
the pdf file I see:
Proveedor:063310 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848 1824) -LANUS OESTE BUENOS AIRES -
ARGENTINA Fax: 4209-2556
How can I insert a new line to make the view diferent
as in the xml tag.
Thank you,
Juan M.
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RE: Improving FOP Performance? -

2005-02-11 Thread Robert C. Leif
If the requirements include: speed, efficiency, portability, and high
reliability for multi-threading; then Ada with the Ravenscar profile for
rate-monotonic scheduling is the best solution.  Please visit
http://www.adaic.org/ and
http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2003/11/0311dobbing.html.  Aonix has
also done some work on real-time Java.  www.aonix.com

Bob Leif

 

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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:17 AM
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Yes a third also ...

 

Also, you might want to considering using a servlet engine like tomcat to
take care of multi-threading issues rather than trying to write your own
thread code (unless of course you like writing multi-threaded code ...:) .  

 

You would then modify your existing code to invoke the servlet rather than
your shell script ...  that way you won't have to worry about restarting the
jvm as tomcat will have it running constantly ... the rest of your code
(which limits the # of simultaneous transactions to three ) can probably
stay the same .. 

 

Thanks,

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I would second Dominik's idead to invoke FOP programatically.

 

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Date: 02/11/2005 07:13AM
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 Hello,
 We are using FOP to convert to generate PDF Invoices
 for our Customers. We need to generate roughly around
 25,000 Invoices Per Month and the Number would
 increase each Month. We generate PDF Docs from XML
 Input Files. We had Trial runs to check for
 Performance and Memory usage.
 Currently, We are just invoking FOP command directly
 from a Shell Script which would call the FOP Command
 repeatedly but making sure that not more than 2 (or
 sometimes 3) FOP Processes are running at any instant.

So you are starting, and stopping JVM, each time
you run fop. Consider writing java app that invokes
fop processing in a loop.

Regards
Dominik

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Re: Is it posible to insert a new line in a xml tag to change the view of a PDF file

2005-02-11 Thread The Web Maestro
I think what Juan wants to use is white-space-collapse=false:

http://xml.apache.org/fop/fo.html#fo-preformat
Preformatting Content
Sometimes it is desirable to retain linebreaks and hard spaces, and to 
get preformatted text to pass through without being changed. The XSL-FO 
specification provides some properties for this: white-space-collapse 
and linefeed-treatment. In FOP, use white-space-collapse=false on an 
enclosing block.

Warning
Due to a bug in current versions of FOP, setting 
white-space-collapse=false will also preserve line breaks in the 
text. Do not rely on this behavior, as it is non-conformant and will be 
changed.


Cheers!
Web Maestro Clay
On Feb 11, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Yakov Shafranovich wrote:
Use fo:block/
Juan Manuel Bellina wrote:
For example if I have the following xml tag:
rtcontactoProveedor:063310
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A.
Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848
(1824) -LANUS OESTE
BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA
Fax: 4209-2556/rtcontacto
I want to show in my PDF file with a new line between
O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. and Contacto: but when I see
the pdf file I see:
Proveedor:063310 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. Contacto:
PILCOMAYO 848 1824) -LANUS OESTE BUENOS AIRES -
ARGENTINA Fax: 4209-2556
How can I insert a new line to make the view diferent
as in the xml tag.
Thank you,
Juan M.
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Re: Is it posible to insert a new line in a xml tag to change the view of a PDF file

2005-02-11 Thread Manoj_Nair
Maestro

You mentioned that the use of fo:block white-space-collapse=false 
preserves the line breaks in the text. This is presicely the behavior I
actually want in my PDF processing. If this is non-conformant as you
mentioned what should I do to maintain the linebreaks / newline feed
present in the database ?

Thanks
Manoj





   
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I think what Juan wants to use is white-space-collapse=false:


http://xml.apache.org/fop/fo.html#fo-preformat
Preformatting Content

Sometimes it is desirable to retain linebreaks and hard spaces, and to
get preformatted text to pass through without being changed. The XSL-FO
specification provides some properties for this: white-space-collapse
and linefeed-treatment. In FOP, use white-space-collapse=false on an
enclosing block.

Warning
Due to a bug in current versions of FOP, setting
white-space-collapse=false will also preserve line breaks in the
text. Do not rely on this behavior, as it is non-conformant and will be
changed.


Cheers!

Web Maestro Clay

On Feb 11, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Yakov Shafranovich wrote:
 Use fo:block/

 Juan Manuel Bellina wrote:
 For example if I have the following xml tag:
 rtcontactoProveedor:063310
 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A.
 Contacto:
 PILCOMAYO 848
 (1824) -LANUS OESTE
 BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA
 Fax: 4209-2556/rtcontacto
 I want to show in my PDF file with a new line between
 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. and Contacto: but when I see
 the pdf file I see:
 Proveedor:063310 O. ARIAS Y CIA S.A. Contacto:
 PILCOMAYO 848 1824) -LANUS OESTE BUENOS AIRES -
 ARGENTINA Fax: 4209-2556
 How can I insert a new line to make the view diferent
 as in the xml tag.
 Thank you,
 Juan M.
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Re: Is it posible to insert a new line in a xml tag to change the view of a PDF file

2005-02-11 Thread The Web Maestro
On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maestro
You mentioned that the use of fo:block white-space-collapse=false 
preserves the line breaks in the text. This is presicely the behavior I
actually want in my PDF processing. If this is non-conformant as you
mentioned what should I do to maintain the linebreaks / newline feed
present in the database ?
Thanks
Manoj
I'm not certain how to handle that... Perhaps another listie might know 
more about that. I was including it since it's part of the info on that 
page. :-)

But since it 'works' in fop-0.20.5, you can always continue to use 
fop-0.20.5 even after fop-1.0 is released. Either that, or there might 
be some other solutions in XSL-FO you could find. I think the keyword 
you should look at is 'white-space' (white-space-preserve, 
white-space-collapse, etc.).

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