Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
Comments among Git users that I often hear are basically limited to two questions: 1. Is there no 'rebase' command? 2. Don't you get commit hooks out-of-the-box? The first question I vaguely answer with "The Fossil filosophy is different", but I would like to have a stronger argument against rebasing, preferrably with an example. I think the second question is more reasonable to request for. An example: I have seen many and big documents about "coding style", boiling down to extreme details about how to indent your C/C++ program. When many programmers participate in a project, it becomes an impossible task to require them all to use the correct "coding style". A commit pre-hook running an automatic indenting would have solved this problem. This is just one example. But I would like to see hooks enabled by default, instead of being a compile-time option. This would also require more documentation about how to use TH1 hooks, which IMHO is a weak area. BR, Johan El 15 sept. 2017 1:14, "Thomas" escribió: On 2017-09-14 23:43, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 9/14/17, Thomas wrote: > >> >> The biggest disadvantage - as my coworkers pointed out - is that the >> downloadable executables do not come with https enabled. >> > > At one time that was true. But I think all of the precompiled > binaries on the site now have https enabled by default, don't that? > Have you tried the recent once? I pretty sure the Windows binaries in > particular support https out of the box. > Uhm, no, I hadn't. I just downloaded the latest Windows executable and it came with https enabled. Thanks! That's a great leap forward! In my opinion, there's now in my opinion nothing left that'd make Git superiour to Fossil unless you got a huge amount of contributors (according to the Fossil documentation), or a project spanning several gigabytes. I'll certainly pass this on. But I won't let you off like that nonetheless. :) Why hasn't this been announced properly, or have I overslept it? ;-) Cheers Thoas ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
On 2017-09-14 23:43, Richard Hipp wrote: On 9/14/17, Thomas wrote: The biggest disadvantage - as my coworkers pointed out - is that the downloadable executables do not come with https enabled. At one time that was true. But I think all of the precompiled binaries on the site now have https enabled by default, don't that? Have you tried the recent once? I pretty sure the Windows binaries in particular support https out of the box. Uhm, no, I hadn't. I just downloaded the latest Windows executable and it came with https enabled. Thanks! That's a great leap forward! In my opinion, there's now in my opinion nothing left that'd make Git superiour to Fossil unless you got a huge amount of contributors (according to the Fossil documentation), or a project spanning several gigabytes. I'll certainly pass this on. But I won't let you off like that nonetheless. :) Why hasn't this been announced properly, or have I overslept it? ;-) Cheers Thoas ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
On 9/14/17, Thomas wrote: > > The biggest disadvantage - as my coworkers pointed out - is that the > downloadable executables do not come with https enabled. At one time that was true. But I think all of the precompiled binaries on the site now have https enabled by default, don't that? Have you tried the recent once? I pretty sure the Windows binaries in particular support https out of the box. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
On 2017-09-14 16:55, Richard Hipp wrote: If you'd like to help promote Fossil to unwashed masses who are still using Git, perhaps like or retweet https://twitter.com/robmurrer/status/908080904781869056 :-) I never used Git but whenever I had an issue with Fossil I tried to find what the Git documentation says about it, as it was me who introduced Fossil to the team and made them use it, in spite of them suggesting and preferring Git. Both seem very similar, even down to - what I find - not the correct behaviour in many circumstances. Fossil is a great piece of softare. Its primary strength is certainly that it is a single executable, easy to set up and easy to run as a CGI. The biggest disadvantage - as my coworkers pointed out - is that the downloadable executables do not come with https enabled. This means you got to download and build OpenSSL yourself, then build Fossil. That's cumbersome and doesn't even work all the time (= trial and error). If it doesn't work, you got to wait for the next update unless you're willing to fix the build scripts yourself. In particular Windows users are used to download software, then run it. That's it. They drop it if it doesn't work. Or they just complain to the one who introduced it. End of story. That's what I have to listen to all the time since I introduced Fossil in favour of Git. -- Thomas ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
On 14 September 2017 at 09:12, Johan Kuuse wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> If you'd like to help promote Fossil to unwashed masses who are still >> using Git, perhaps like or retweet >> https://twitter.com/robmurrer/status/908080904781869056 :-) > > Working in a 115,000 employers 3G/4G/5G international software > company, Git all over. (That's a lot of Git.) > Does anyone who ever have used Fossil (and Git, to be able to compare) > *not* promoted Fossil for unwashed colleagues? > I do. ;-) > 115,000 employees with your employer or 115,000 people using git at your employer? > BR, > Johan > > > >> >> -- >> D. Richard Hipp >> d...@sqlite.org >> ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
Done! *michael at barrow dot me* +1.541.600.2027 "Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight." -- B. Franklin On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > If you'd like to help promote Fossil to unwashed masses who are still > using Git, perhaps like or retweet > https://twitter.com/robmurrer/status/908080904781869056 :-) > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > If you'd like to help promote Fossil to unwashed masses who are still > using Git, perhaps like or retweet > https://twitter.com/robmurrer/status/908080904781869056 :-) Working in a 115,000 employers 3G/4G/5G international software company, Git all over. (That's a lot of Git.) Does anyone who ever have used Fossil (and Git, to be able to compare) *not* promoted Fossil for unwashed colleagues? I do. ;-) BR, Johan > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Shameless self-promotion
If you'd like to help promote Fossil to unwashed masses who are still using Git, perhaps like or retweet https://twitter.com/robmurrer/status/908080904781869056 :-) -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
